ragnarok1945 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Sidious didn't die at the end of Ep 6 anyway. He simply transferred his spirit to another body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Sidious didn't die at the end of Ep 6 anyway. He simply transferred his spirit to another bodyThat is the AU you are talking about! But everyone thought that the Siths were through, but in the end, Luke & Leia still put him down & out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davok Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 ^heres a logical explination.Plus george lucas is insane' date=' I'v seen the directors comentary.Also that means anakin, wasnt the chosen one. I hope they don't make any more movies. Damn the new ones sucked![/quote']Actually he is. By the end of the 6th mvie, it is really Vader who killed the Emperor at the cost of his own life. But Vader only killed Sidious, not completely destroy the Sith.Actually, it seemed so in the movies. Sidious was the Master among the Sith & Vader is the apprentice. By killing Sidious & with his own life ending due to his broken life support system, the Siths were temporarily contained...until another point of time... But Anakin didn't ultimately wipe out the Sith, and the Prophecy said that the Chosen One will destroy the Sith completely, not temporarily contain them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 But Anakin didn't ultimately wipe out the Sith' date=' and the Prophecy said that the Chosen One will destroy the Sith completely, not temporarily contain them.[/quote'] How will the Chosen One bring balance to the Force and destroy the Sith completely? Funny concept of balance, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-wan Cannoli Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Considering that the good guys were running everything and the Sith were incredibly weak' date=' you'd have thought that [i']somebody[/i] would have pointed out that balancing the force would be a bad thing, since it would mean giving more power to the Dark Side. The sith are (supposedly) much stronger then the Jedi but there's only two of them. Sidious and his pawn which he always kills of for a new one. You got that part wrong but the balance of the force concept is really screwed up. Here's something else that makes no sense: Why should the Sith' date=' which are supposed to be evil and selfish, get the ability to revive other people, while the Jedi, who are supposed to be good and selfless, just get really strong and contemplate their navels? Shouldn't the selfless ones be saving people from death, and the selfish ones be maximizing their own personal strength?[/quote']I'm pretty sure the Sith actually can't stop people from dying, Sidiuos probably just said that to corrupt Anikan. Sidious saved Anikan from death with medical droids. Also (supposedly) Anikan managed to stay alive from pure hatred, which also makes no sense. All in all: Some of the Starwars universe makes sense, most of it is total idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davok Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Actually, Sith CAN stop people from dying, but only one Sith actually could do that. Sidious' master, Darth Plagueis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I thought he taught Sidious everything he knew, including the ability to prevent people from dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davok Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 But since Sidious hasn't been seen resurrecting Maul or Tyranus or any one I believe that it is safe to assume that Plagueis never really taught Sidious about reviving dead people since Sidious probably isn't as strong in the Force as Darth Plagueis was so Sidious probably couldn't do the ability anyway even if Plagueis had taught him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 it's not about reviving, it's to prevent people from dying. Once they have died Sidious couldn't revive them anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-wan Cannoli Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I thought he taught Sidious everything he knew' date=' including the ability to prevent people from dying.[/quote']Sidious is a lying deceiving son of a ***** So you can't really tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 yeah we all knew that, but still. You'd think he would tell SOME truth in Plagueis teaching him everything he knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 He probably did, but Sidious just decided he didn't like the other Sith, so he let them die. After all Sith betray each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 that was during the revolution in which most of the sith were wiped out. Sidious remained treacherous though since he felt all his apprentices were expendable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 If he felt like he could betray the Sith, why didn't he just become a Jedi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 it wasn't about betraying the sith, he wanted to be all powerful. He just needed enough apprentices to do enough of the dirty work for him to rid the jedi. Once that is taken care of and all freedom rebels eliminated from the universe, he probably would have no more use for his apprentices anyway. Besides in The Forced Unleashed, Vader had wanted to rid of Sidious himself because he wanted that throne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 ^heres a logical explination.Plus george lucas is insane' date=' I'v seen the directors comentary.Also that means anakin, wasnt the chosen one. I hope they don't make any more movies. Damn the new ones sucked![/quote']Actually he is. By the end of the 6th mvie, it is really Vader who killed the Emperor at the cost of his own life. But Vader only killed Sidious, not completely destroy the Sith.Actually, it seemed so in the movies. Sidious was the Master among the Sith & Vader is the apprentice. By killing Sidious & with his own life ending due to his broken life support system, the Siths were temporarily contained...until another point of time... But Anakin didn't ultimately wipe out the Sith, and the Prophecy said that the Chosen One will destroy the Sith completely, not temporarily contain them.The Prophecy never said that, it just said "bring balance to the Force". The Jedi were onlt too stupid to realise that. But Anakin didn't ultimately wipe out the Sith' date=' and the Prophecy said that the Chosen One will destroy the Sith completely, not temporarily contain them.[/quote'] How will the Chosen One bring balance to the Force and destroy the Sith completely? Funny concept of balance, really.Simple, he couldn't! If he felt like he could betray the Sith' date=' why didn't he just become a Jedi?[/quote']Siths are well-known to backstab each other. The Master embodies power, while the apprentice tries to claim his master's power. That is the very fundamental of the Sith under Darth Bane & so on so forth...which caused too much infighting that the Siths were no longer a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroshot Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 it wasn't about betraying the sith' date=' he wanted to be all powerful. He just needed enough apprentices to do enough of the dirty work for him to rid the jedi. Once that is taken care of and all freedom rebels eliminated from the universe, he probably would have no more use for his apprentices anyway. Besides in The Forced Unleashed, Vader had wanted to rid of Sidious himself because he wanted that throne[/quote'] Actually, at the end of the game Vader reveals that he was lying to the apprentice the entire time, and only used him to kill his enemies. Vader never truely wanted to kill his master. Until ep. 6, and a short while in ep. 3 when he was still Anikin And actually, by balencing the force, you destroy the Sith as well as the Jedi. Kinda like the 'without light there is no darkness' concept, so Anikin would have fofilled the profecy the day that Sidious and Yoda had a tea party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 yeah well it's not like Anakin was going to turn on Sidious anytime soon (and personally I'm unsure had Luke's words not awakened something in him if he would EVER have) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 The only reason that a Sith would want the other Sith alive is because that certain Sith still has some use. If Vader wants to betray Sidious, he needs an apprentice, thus asking Luke at a point of time to join him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 yeah but sooner or later all apprentices will have used up their usefulness. Think about it: if the rebellion was defeated, you really think Sidious would need an apprentice anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Blaze Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Star wars confuses me when i think about it i never get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 that's fine, barely 5% of it is actually logical sense, the rest is nonsense anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Blaze Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Sci-Fi films are so weird do you agree the only one i like is Stargate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armageddon08 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 it wasn't about betraying the sith' date=' he wanted to be all powerful. He just needed enough apprentices to do enough of the dirty work for him to rid the jedi. Once that is taken care of and all freedom rebels eliminated from the universe, he probably would have no more use for his apprentices anyway. Besides in The Forced Unleashed, Vader had wanted to rid of Sidious himself because he wanted that throne[/quote']Speaking of which, I'm playing the Force Unleashed right now. And that game is freaking awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 yeah but sooner or later all apprentices will have used up their usefulness. Think about it: if the rebellion was defeated' date=' you really think Sidious would need an apprentice anymore?[/quote']Let me see now...Vader exists as his enforcer & if there is nothing more to enforce like the whole galaxy submits to Sidious, then Vader would outlive his usefulness. I think that's why the Death Star was made, to make Vader effectiveless & then Sidious can find some new lackey & force the 2 to fight to death for apprenticeship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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