Wyhe Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 even if the sith could all be exterminated' date=' there'd still be rebellion within the jedi order (no order is perfect). If so some jedi would inevitably become new sith[/quote']Ironically, the earliest Sith Lord were all Jedis who fell to the Dark Side due to power-hunger/craving of knowledge. I know. And eventually their cravings will give rise to new sithTherefore, the only way to bring balance to the Force is to destroy all organisations using the Force, effectively eliminating all accepts of the Force & setting it to its original undisturbed state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 actually its undisturbed state won't remain undisturbed for long. The origin of discovering how to use the force had to have begun somewhere, and therefore someone could find it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 actually its undisturbed state won't remain undisturbed for long. The origin of discovering how to use the force had to have begun somewhere' date=' and therefore someone could find it again[/quote']So this calls for a powerful organization directed towards keeping the Force an eternal secret from all in the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 you also have to make sure this powerful organization isn't corrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Gamesmaster Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Define "balance" as many ways as you can. Then you might understand something about it. I doubt the Jedi believed the prophecy, anyway, until Anakin actually showed up; I guess it was sort of like the prophecy in the Halfblood Chronicles. And then they defined balance their way, and liked the prophecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 So basically before anakin the jedi order mainly felt the prophecy can be forgotten? I doubt it. I'm sure all of them knew sooner or later it had to show up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Define "balance" as many ways as you can. Then you might understand something about it. I doubt the Jedi believed the prophecy' date=' anyway, until Anakin actually showed up; I guess it was sort of like the prophecy in the Halfblood Chronicles. And then they defined balance their way, and liked the prophecy.[/quote']I think they still remembered the prophecy since they were actually talking about it. If it was forgotten, then no one would pay attention to it. Also, they got a 900-year old Yoda who most likely heard the prophecy himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 actually Yoda was only 863 years old by the time of ep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 But he should be old enoug to learn of the prophecy first-hand with that age going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 yeah he remembered it. Still, I'm sure many jedi by then didn't bother because so few felt the prophecy was ever going to be fulfilled (and remember by the time of Ep 1 the council thought all the sith had been long gone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 yeah he remembered it. Still' date=' I'm sure many jedi by then didn't bother because so few felt the prophecy was ever going to be fulfilled (and remember by the time of Ep 1 the council thought all the sith had been long gone)[/quote']That's because they were too relaxed on the matter & stupid! Don't they know that if the Sith were truly gone, the Jedi will be gone as well! There can be no light without dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 then let's go to ep 6 when Luke became the last of the Jedi. You really think by killing his father and converting to the Sith would have simply exterminated all the Sity then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 It might have seem to be like that, but there was Lumiya & Darth Krayt later on... But the conflict must go on in life...for conflict is 1 of the core essence of true existence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 that's obvious. Sidious was stupid to think in ep 3 with all the jedi gone he'd have absolute control. Even if all enemies of the Empire WERE defeated, there'd eventually be power struggles within itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 that's obvious. Sidious was stupid to think in ep 3 with all the jedi gone he'd have absolute control. Even if all enemies of the Empire WERE defeated' date=' there'd eventually be power struggles within itself[/quote']The very nature of the Siths is betrayal & constant backstabbing. That's why Bane chose to use the Rule of 2 in the end as he saw how many Sith can be a problem. Also, it was an empire with military personnel who would also want to take the empire for themselves. Therefore, Sidious' biggest mistake is to make an empire. Just killing off all the Jedi would be enough to fulfill the dogma of the Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 see the problem he had concentrated WAY too heavily on the rebels trying to defeat his empire. Sometimes instead of looking at the people outside your organization you should look more at the people inside your organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 see the problem he had concentrated WAY too heavily on the rebels trying to defeat his empire. Sometimes instead of looking at the people outside your organization you should look more at the people inside your organizationso he should have used some ancient sith mind control technique on his officials in the empire to ensure loyalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 but his empire is too big. He can't control that many minds all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Therefore...his plan is retarded! The better one is just kill all the Jedis, that's why the old Sith wanted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbishop Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 iu think the jedi prophecys are riduculous give up and et the sith rule gawd lol >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Therefore...his plan is retarded! The better one is just kill all the Jedis' date=' that's why the old Sith wanted![/quote'] which never could happen due to the balance of light and darkness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Final Conclusion: The Jedi & Sith Orders should declare a state of semi-peaceful existence with various conflicts where they will pit against each other. (Just like those China pugilistic world) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 well the jedi never would need to destroy the sith if they were convinced its oppression won't return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Let me tell you something on the China pugilistic world: In that world, there are the orthodox sects who do good to the people with their kung fu skills. (Jedi) Also, they are unorthodox sects who likes to terrorise the world & do dangerous powerful kung fu skills. (Sith) Both are known to be at odds with each other due to different beliefs, but they maintain a weak alliance for the sake of the society, constantly the unorthodox will attack & the orthodox will fight them. Ironically, this is similar to the Jedi/Sith thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 yeah but I'm not quite sure just how insistent the sith are in terms of peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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