Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Like I said, it will not be peace, but a maintained state of conflict that will keep the ideals & interests of both sides intact. The Sith Lord were sadly too stupid to do this method & the Jedi were not looking too deeply into the matter of the Balance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Well that's obvious for Sidious. You really think he wanted a compromise? That word does not exist in his vocabulary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Well that's obvious for Sidious. You really think he wanted a compromise? That word does not exist in his vocabularySidious refers to insidious, which is controlling. This corresponds to his ideals of conquest of the galaxy; he would be blind to a compromise. If only the Sith is led by a wise being who maintains the Sith's true dogma, then it would be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 did any Sith even come close at least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 NO...and that proves that they were either too dumb or the so-called "Dark Side" has clouded their sense of judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 The dark side clouds all judgment (otherwise they wouldn't have become sith in the first place) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 And it also seems that it blocks out their common sense too since some Siths were dumb enough to use a suicide tactic in a losing battle when Bane believed that they could win if they combined their powers as one force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 A.. serious... star wars discussion... Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 A.. serious... star wars discussion... Really?To tell you the truth, I thought this discussion would be short...but then we have our theories & make a long talk about it in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 And it also seems that it blocks out their common sense too since some Siths were dumb enough to use a suicide tactic in a losing battle when Bane believed that they could win if they combined their powers as one force. I thought during that revolution no sith wanted to work together with one another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 And it also seems that it blocks out their common sense too since some Siths were dumb enough to use a suicide tactic in a losing battle when Bane believed that they could win if they combined their powers as one force. I thought during that revolution no sith wanted to work together with one anotherDuring the last battle, Bane suggested the uniting powers thing. But the other Siths were paranoid that he wanted to drain their powers & then another one suggested a kamikaze bomb to destroy all life at one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 see my point? No sith is trusting and they despise teamwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Thus Bane opted for the existence of only 2 Siths, no less & definitely no more...until Krayt broke the rule & his Sith Order is caught in infighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 And why Sidious was forced to revert back to the jedi way on that account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 And why Sidious was forced to revert back to the jedi way on that accountYou mean the Emperor's Hand system? They were never official Sith, only he & Vader were given that right. Those idiots were just dark jedi minions who have no right to learn sith arts & only limited to general dark side techniques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 He did with Maul and Count Dooku after his conversion too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 He did with Maul and Count Dooku after his conversion tooWhen a Sith apprentice is killed off, the Sith Master must quickly find a replacement for him in accordance to the Rule of 2...or just find some fool to fulfill his means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 that rule of 2 Sidious only followed because it served his benefits for the time being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 that rule of 2 Sidious only followed because it served his benefits for the time beingThe Rule of 2 is intended to strengthen the Sith by eliminating internal struggles down to only the Master's agenda & the Apprentice's betrayal plans. Sidious is cautious enough to follow the Rule of 2 so that he may ensure victory. He only took Dooku in because he needed his power to rule the Separatists army while having designs for Anakin already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Really? Just when did he begin planning for anakin to be his new apprentice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 apparently ever since somewhere in ep 2 & 3...Dooku was only a seat warmer for the true apprentice of Sidious. (something Dooku realised only when he was about to die) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 But Anakin didn't turn the moment he killed Dooku. Which brings me to another Q: if he didn't turn the moment he killed Dooku, why did Sidious think Luke would turn the moment he killed his father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 But Anakin didn't turn the moment he killed Dooku. Which brings me to another Q: if he didn't turn the moment he killed Dooku' date=' why did Sidious think Luke would turn the moment he killed his father?[/quote']Jedis only go to the Dark Side only when they are under a lot of rage & negative feelings. To Anakin, killing Dooku meat nothing. Sidious used Padme to get to Anakin & promised him the secrets of life restoration by submitting himself to the Dark Side. However, Sidious believed that Luke would in under tremendous rage when fighting against his very father AKA his enemy & that would be good enough to convert him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 is that the reason why Anakin instead informed Mace instead of killing Sidious on the spot? And remember, if Luke was under that much rage when his father said if he won't turn then perhaps his sister will, he would have delivered the killing blow the moment he cut his father's mechanical hand off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyhe Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 is that the reason why Anakin instead informed Mace instead of killing Sidious on the spot? And remember' date=' if Luke was under that much rage when his father said if he won't turn then perhaps his sister will, he would have delivered the killing blow the moment he cut his father's mechanical hand off[/quote']Yes, Anakin believed what Sidious said to him. Luke made the first strike at Vader's hand, but then later stopped his attack when he recalled what Yoda said & what happened in the Dark Side Cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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