The End of the World as We Know It

[Cyber Altair]

=O

 

Movies are a great source of prophetic wisdom.

[speznats]

the world will not end civilization just will life will go on untill the were five billion when the earth is swallowed up by the sun life goes on people live your lives people

[Pikachu]

This is completely a joke to spoof theories about Global Warming' date=' The End of the World in 2012, and other such contraversial nonsense.[/quote']

 

You idiots realize it said this in the opening post, right?

 

My gawd, only Pika's are smart

Yes, this quote is full of win.

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

This is completely a joke to spoof theories about Global Warming' date=' The End of the World in 2012, and other such contraversial nonsense.[/quote']

 

You idiots realize it said this in the opening post, right?

I should hope so. I would be very sad if they didn't.

 

As for Globel Warming' date=' it's bullcrap.[/quote']OMG, Meti said something wrong. The world really is ending! ...I say we all ignore the disclaimer, believe the post, and RUN FOR OUR LIVEZ.

[Yasu]

I stopped reading after "Global Warming"

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

Er, let's make something clear.

 

A fact: global warming, as a process, is absolutely real. It's screwed with the cliff people in desert-land, the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, and the European Renaissance.

 

Another fact: we've been screwing with it since we discovered how to tend fire. Keeping them burning so much longer polluted the atmosphere, therefore starting the screwing-up.

 

Another fact: humanity is now so damned widespread that we're really starting to screw up the normal global warming cycle.

 

Another fact: it is most logical to assume that we have an impact on the environment and attempt to restrict that impact; the cost in the case we are incorrect will be minimal (and probably inverse, as it leads to innovation), and the gains in the case we are correct will be tremendous (the postponement of the next mass extinction).

 

Another fact: Earth has a habit of enforcing random genocides against the dominant species on Earth. (See the DYNOZORZ.)

 

Another fact: In summary, Global Warming is very real, or at least, that is the assumption we ought to take.

[PrometheusMFD]

This is completely a joke to spoof theories about Global Warming' date=' The End of the World in 2012, and other such contraversial nonsense.[/quote']

 

You idiots realize it said this in the opening post, right?

At least somebody read the disclaimer

 

the world will not end civilization just will life will go on untill the were five billion when the earth is swallowed up by the sun life goes on people live your lives people

Actually' date=' humans are probably the most adaptive species on our planet. Civilization on Earth might end, but the human race (or some variant of) will probably find a way to survive.

[hr']

 

 

Er' date=' let's make something clear.

 

1)A fact: global warming, as a process, is absolutely real. It's screwed with the cliff people in desert-land, the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, and the European Renaissance.

 

2)Another fact: we've been screwing with it since we discovered how to tend fire. Keeping them burning so much longer polluted the atmosphere, therefore starting the screwing-up.

 

3)Another fact: humanity is now so damned widespread that we're really starting to screw up the normal global warming cycle.

 

4)Another fact: it is most logical to assume that we have an impact on the environment and attempt to restrict that impact; the cost in the case we are incorrect will be minimal (and probably inverse, as it leads to innovation), and the gains in the case we are correct will be tremendous (the postponement of the next mass extinction).

 

5)Another fact: Earth has a habit of enforcing random genocides against the dominant species on Earth. (See the DYNOZORZ.)

 

6)Another fact: In summary, Global Warming is very real, or at least, that is the assumption we ought to take.

[/quote']

Ok, here is my argument:

1) Yes, the Earth does go through a process of heating and cooling, but (as your post has said) it couldn't possibly be caused by humans, as I highly doubt they were using cars 1000 years ago.

 

2)Fire takes in Oxygen and combines it with Carbon to create Carbon Dioxide. This Carbon Dioxide is then immediately scrubbed out of the air by the surrounding plants, which then produce more Oxygen. Plants thrive in C02, therefore, more Carbon Dioxide, more plants, more oxygen, more life.

 

3)Please elaborate

 

4)It is completely illogical to believe we matter on a scale compared to the rest of the ecosystem that a simple compound that occurs naturally at a rate faster than the human race could possibly produce (see forest fires and volcanoes). Plus, CO2 is not an actual "Green House Gas". Water Vapor is the only compound in our atmosphere that influences tempurature and weather patterns.

 

5)Meteor, that is all I am going to say about this.

 

6) Global Warming is a false theory meant to control the lives of the citizens to compensate for the fact that the "Scientists" and Politicians feel inadequate as they are.

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

This is completely a joke to spoof theories about Global Warming' date=' The End of the World in 2012, and other such contraversial nonsense.[/quote']

 

You idiots realize it said this in the opening post, right?

At least somebody read the disclaimer

 

the world will not end civilization just will life will go on untill the were five billion when the earth is swallowed up by the sun life goes on people live your lives people

Actually' date=' humans are probably the most adaptive species on our planet. Civilization on Earth might end, but the human race (or some variant of) will probably find a way to survive.

[hr']

 

 

Er' date=' let's make something clear.

 

1)A fact: global warming, as a process, is absolutely real. It's screwed with the cliff people in desert-land, the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, and the European Renaissance.

 

2)Another fact: we've been screwing with it since we discovered how to tend fire. Keeping them burning so much longer polluted the atmosphere, therefore starting the screwing-up.

 

3)Another fact: humanity is now so damned widespread that we're really starting to screw up the normal global warming cycle.

 

4)Another fact: it is most logical to assume that we have an impact on the environment and attempt to restrict that impact; the cost in the case we are incorrect will be minimal (and probably inverse, as it leads to innovation), and the gains in the case we are correct will be tremendous (the postponement of the next mass extinction).

 

5)Another fact: Earth has a habit of enforcing random genocides against the dominant species on Earth. (See the DYNOZORZ.)

 

6)Another fact: In summary, Global Warming is very real, or at least, that is the assumption we ought to take.

[/quote']

Ok, here is my argument:

1) Yes, the Earth does go through a process of heating and cooling, but (as your post has said) it couldn't possibly be caused by humans, as I highly doubt they were using cars 1000 years ago.

 

2)Fire takes in Oxygen and combines it with Carbon to create Carbon Dioxide. This Carbon Dioxide is then immediately scrubbed out of the air by the surrounding plants, which then produce more Oxygen. Plants thrive in C02, therefore, more Carbon Dioxide, more plants, more oxygen, more life.

 

3)Please elaborate

 

4)It is completely illogical to believe we matter on a scale compared to the rest of the ecosystem that a simple compound that occurs naturally at a rate faster than the human race could possibly produce (see forest fires and volcanoes). Plus, CO2 is not an actual "Green House Gas". Water Vapor is the only compound in our atmosphere that influences tempurature and weather patterns.

 

5)Meteor, that is all I am going to say about this.

 

6) Global Warming is a false theory meant to control the lives of the citizens to compensate for the fact that the "Scientists" and Politicians feel inadequate as they are.

 

1) No, but humans have started screwing things up.

 

2) The fire was kept alive for longer periods of time, therefore forcing plants to evolve to take in greater amounts of CO2. They were able to keep up roughly until the invention of the coal engine.

 

3) We inhabit almost every nook and cranny on Earth; we're so widespread, our explorers don't have anything to report anymore except the occasional new island. This in turn results in massive CO2, CH4, etc production, and magnifies our impact on the environment to a significant degree.

 

4) CO2 is not the greenhouse gas that matters; methane is. It is rarely produced in nature except by animal wastes; therefore, humanity is hugely contributing to methane production via factory uses. Note also that methane/CH4 is twenty times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2.

 

5) A single meteor can have the impact enough to wipe out a planet's worth of life, while leaving small mammals intact? I say temperature changes (the same ones we're screwing with) killed some, while plant adaptation to the temperature changes killed the rest of the herbivores, thereby starving the carnivores and forcing themselves to kill each other out. Said theory would also explain the remaining and thriving of mammalian life, whose blood temperature is not as directly affected by the outer environment.

 

6) I hope you're joking.

[PrometheusMFD]

This is completely a joke to spoof theories about Global Warming' date=' The End of the World in 2012, and other such contraversial nonsense.[/quote']

 

You idiots realize it said this in the opening post, right?

At least somebody read the disclaimer

 

the world will not end civilization just will life will go on untill the were five billion when the earth is swallowed up by the sun life goes on people live your lives people

Actually' date=' humans are probably the most adaptive species on our planet. Civilization on Earth might end, but the human race (or some variant of) will probably find a way to survive.

[hr']

 

 

Er' date=' let's make something clear.

 

1)A fact: global warming, as a process, is absolutely real. It's screwed with the cliff people in desert-land, the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, and the European Renaissance.

 

2)Another fact: we've been screwing with it since we discovered how to tend fire. Keeping them burning so much longer polluted the atmosphere, therefore starting the screwing-up.

 

3)Another fact: humanity is now so damned widespread that we're really starting to screw up the normal global warming cycle.

 

4)Another fact: it is most logical to assume that we have an impact on the environment and attempt to restrict that impact; the cost in the case we are incorrect will be minimal (and probably inverse, as it leads to innovation), and the gains in the case we are correct will be tremendous (the postponement of the next mass extinction).

 

5)Another fact: Earth has a habit of enforcing random genocides against the dominant species on Earth. (See the DYNOZORZ.)

 

6)Another fact: In summary, Global Warming is very real, or at least, that is the assumption we ought to take.

[/quote']

Ok, here is my argument:

1) Yes, the Earth does go through a process of heating and cooling, but (as your post has said) it couldn't possibly be caused by humans, as I highly doubt they were using cars 1000 years ago.

 

2)Fire takes in Oxygen and combines it with Carbon to create Carbon Dioxide. This Carbon Dioxide is then immediately scrubbed out of the air by the surrounding plants, which then produce more Oxygen. Plants thrive in C02, therefore, more Carbon Dioxide, more plants, more oxygen, more life.

 

3)Please elaborate

 

4)It is completely illogical to believe we matter on a scale compared to the rest of the ecosystem that a simple compound that occurs naturally at a rate faster than the human race could possibly produce (see forest fires and volcanoes). Plus, CO2 is not an actual "Green House Gas". Water Vapor is the only compound in our atmosphere that influences tempurature and weather patterns.

 

5)Meteor, that is all I am going to say about this.

 

6) Global Warming is a false theory meant to control the lives of the citizens to compensate for the fact that the "Scientists" and Politicians feel inadequate as they are.

 

1) No, but humans have started screwing things up.

 

2) The fire was kept alive for longer periods of time, therefore forcing plants to evolve to take in greater amounts of CO2. They were able to keep up roughly until the invention of the coal engine.

 

3) We inhabit almost every nook and cranny on Earth; we're so widespread, our explorers don't have anything to report anymore except the occasional new island. This in turn results in massive CO2, CH4, etc production, and magnifies our impact on the environment to a significant degree.

 

4) CO2 is not the greenhouse gas that matters; methane is. It is rarely produced in nature except by animal wastes; therefore, humanity is hugely contributing to methane production via factory uses. Note also that methane/CH4 is twenty times more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2.

 

5) A single meteor can have the impact enough to wipe out a planet's worth of life, while leaving small mammals intact? I say temperature changes (the same ones we're screwing with) killed some, while plant adaptation to the temperature changes killed the rest of the herbivores, thereby starving the carnivores and forcing themselves to kill each other out. Said theory would also explain the remaining and thriving of mammalian life, whose blood temperature is not as directly affected by the outer environment.

 

6) I hope you're joking.

 

1)Humanity just simply cannot influence something on as big a magnitude as the atmospheric tempurature of the earth. Animals had been producing Methane from their waste for over 265 million years. Are you telling me that a human population of a mere 6 billion can produce more methane from poo than the billions upon billions of animals that had come before us?

And besides (as I have said before) Water Vapor is the only true Greenhouse Gas. You don't hear about a 50% Methane ratio making the day feel 50* hotter.

 

2)The smoke from Steam engines (which I am familiar with, thank you very much) consists of roughly Carbon particles, Carbon Dioxide, Steam (as coal was merely used heat the water), and maybe some oxygen. And since Carbon Dioxide isn't a Greenhouse gas (as you have said earlier), then I do not see how much of a concequence it was.

 

2b) And plants have as much (if not more) capacity to remove Carbon Dioxide from the air and replace it with Oxygen as animals do the other way around.

 

3)So you're saying that the prosperity of the human race is the cause of all evil? Because that is what I am getting from your post. (And if you do say you believe that, I wont believe you unless you act on it and kill yourself because that is one less human to "harm the environment")

 

4)You are contradicting yourself. And as I have said time and time again (and will probably have to repeat) Water Vapor is the only True Greenhouse gas!

 

4b)Oh, and methane pours out of sub-oceanic vents at a rate of 1x the amount the entire human race has put into the atmosphere since his creation every month.

 

5) You just contradicted yourself again. How could we cause the same changes in tempurature that killed the dinosaurs (which were warm-blooded, by the way)? Aren't we the same as the mammals that survived? Don't we have better resources to help us? Animals will constantly adapt, including humans. Deciduous plants can survive the harsh weather Al Gore and those who "follow" him have been predicting.

 

6) I kid you not. There was an actual meeting about it. Essentially, they sat down and said "Ok, how can we control peoples' lives while still looking like the good guys?"

 

7)Al Gore should never have won the nobel peace prize. It should have gone to a nice, little old lady (whos name escapes me, but I will search for it) from Poland who helpped hundreds of kids escape Nazi prosecutors during the Third Riech. When I heard who Al Gore won against, I put my foot through my television. Saving kids from Nazis=Good, Tricking the masses for your own prophet with a crackpot theory=Bad.

[End Of The Abyss]

Here's MY arguement.

 

1)Stop arguing.

 

2)Stop arguing and live your lives as long as you can.

 

3)Global Warming is just an excuse some retarded hippie made up so people would use less energy, then Al Gore believed this bastard, took the idea, and scared the populace of the world, saying we'd all be flooded. If the amount of putroleum we used affected the pace at which the ice melted and we'd be flooded, we'd be the new atlantis right now.

 

4) [/argument]

[PrometheusMFD]

...He's got a point (3 points to be exact(4 if you count that [/argument] thing))

But really I merely maid this thread to spoof the gullability of the human population and the constant scares we recieve from people who think they are higher up than us.

[CrabHelmet]

' pid='1535631' dateline='1230742967']

If the amount of putroleum we used affected the pace at which the ice melted and we'd be flooded' date=' we'd be the new atlantis right now.

[/quote']

 

The theory of evolution is false. If it were true, it would mean that our parents were chimpanzees! Clearly, this is false.

[PrometheusMFD]

Darwinism (Belief in the teory of Evolution for some of our slower readers) has too many big holes in it to be a valid theory (plus, it can't be recreated in a laborotory to be proven factual, thus I don't believe it)

 

On the flip side, Intelligent Design/Creationism (Belief that a God or gods or some kind of higher being created life... for our slower readers) doesn't make sense, because first there would be very little or no change in life, and, second, there are a lot of things that shouldn't have been created (such as politicians or Barney the Dinosaur)

[Megaworm]

Demise, King Of Armageddon says hi.

[Insert_Name_Here]

i dont buy it. and if the world does end. theres an area in finland that a pod that can hold the entire population of the usa and mexico cobined that can withstand a nuclear bomb so if we make it the if the world ends we just might live

[「tea.leaf」]

And then we'll build magical little robots that want civil liberties for their artificial intelligence, right?

[Megaworm]

yup. And then there will be robot porn on the internet.

[tacobell10]

Actually guys, this is not where you should discuss Global Warming's existence. It is a pretty complicated case in Chemistry that really should have been studied by each of you before being discussed. The world might not end just like that, but maybe living situations would get harder, examples include lack of power sources to power up countries, or maybe heated living for the later descendants.

 

-Lemmy :)

[PrometheusMFD]

...=.=

This was just for a joke. I never actually expected a serious debate to arise from this (although I probably should have)