Bloodrun Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move' date=' and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted.[/quote'] You are not weighing the odds.Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves.I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves.Same as umaga, who disappeared >_>And even Big Slow. Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move' date=' and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted.[/quote'] You are not weighing the odds.Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves.I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves.Same as umaga, who disappeared >_>And even Big Slow. Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. Ok ok, whatever. Let's move on. Chris Jericho is arguably the greatest superstar on Raw, and he is without a doubt better than Batista. Not only does he actually know how to wrestle, he actually has mic skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man0waR Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I didn't say that Cena doesn't have a lot of moves. I said Batista. Cena has plently of moves' date=' I just don't like his current gimmick. :P[/quote'] Cena's arms creep me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Khali sucks and Umaga isn't great. Big Show knows loads of moves and is just plain awesome.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move' date=' and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted.[/quote'] You are not weighing the odds.Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves.I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves.Same as umaga, who disappeared >_>And even Big Slow. Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. Ok ok, whatever. Let's move on. Chris Jericho is arguably the greatest superstar on Raw, and he is without a doubt better than Batista. Not only does he actually know how to wrestle, he actually has mic skills. Chris Jericho or Randy Orton, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man0waR Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Orton FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move' date=' and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted.[/quote'] You are not weighing the odds.Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves.I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves.Same as umaga, who disappeared >_>And even Big Slow. Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. Ok ok, whatever. Let's move on. Chris Jericho is arguably a great superstar on Raw, and he is without a doubt as good as Batista. Not only does he actually know how to wrestle, he actually has mic skills. Mike skills aren't everything, take the boogy man, and umaga, people like mysterious wrestlers. Now, I believe Jericho was better back in the Golden years, his new "saga" is crap, and I don't like it, he needs that beard again, that beard was kick ass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move' date=' and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted.[/quote'] You are not weighing the odds.Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves.I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves.Same as umaga, who disappeared >_>And even Big Slow. Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. Ok ok, whatever. Let's move on. Chris Jericho is arguably a great superstar on Raw, and he is without a doubt as good as Batista. Not only does he actually know how to wrestle, he actually has mic skills. Mike skills aren't everything, take the boogy man, and umaga, people like mysterious wrestlers. Now, I believe Jericho was better back in the Golden years, his new "saga" is crap, and I don't like it, he needs that beard again, that beard was kick ass.. If Jericho is as good as Batista, why didn't Batista defeat him in that Steel Cage Match? Why didn't Batista defeat him at No Mercy? How can you say The Boogeyman has bad mic skills? When it comes to mic skills, Santino Marella is the best there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move' date=' and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted.[/quote'] You are not weighing the odds.Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves.I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves.Same as umaga, who disappeared >_>And even Big Slow. Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. Ok ok, whatever. Let's move on. Chris Jericho is arguably a great superstar on Raw, and he is without a doubt as good as Batista. Not only does he actually know how to wrestle, he actually has mic skills. Mike skills aren't everything, take the boogy man, and umaga, people like mysterious wrestlers. Now, I believe Jericho was better back in the Golden years, his new "saga" is crap, and I don't like it, he needs that beard again, that beard was kick ass.. If Jericho is as good as Batista, why didn't Batista defeat him in that Steel Cage Match? Why didn't Batista defeat him at No Mercy? How can you say The Boogeyman has bad mic skills? When it comes to mic skills, Santino Marella is the best there is. Bold one, um.. Dumb ass its scripted.Bold two, the boogey man says 8 words total "I'm the Boggeyman, and I'm... COMIN' TO GET CHYA'!!"Bold three, no, Santina knows how to be a heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move' date=' and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted.[/quote'] You are not weighing the odds.Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves.I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves.Same as umaga, who disappeared >_>And even Big Slow. Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. Ok ok, whatever. Let's move on. Chris Jericho is arguably a great superstar on Raw, and he is without a doubt as good as Batista. Not only does he actually know how to wrestle, he actually has mic skills. Mike skills aren't everything, take the boogy man, and umaga, people like mysterious wrestlers. Now, I believe Jericho was better back in the Golden years, his new "saga" is crap, and I don't like it, he needs that beard again, that beard was kick ass.. If Jericho is as good as Batista, why didn't Batista defeat him in that Steel Cage Match? Why didn't Batista defeat him at No Mercy? How can you say The Boogeyman has bad mic skills? When it comes to mic skills, Santino Marella is the best there is. Bold one, um.. Dumb ass its scripted.Bold two, the boogey man says 8 words total "I'm the Boggeyman, and I'm... COMIN' TO GET CHYA'!!"Bold three, no, Santina knows how to be a heel. You're saying Santino doesn't have good mic skills? Ok, so maybe The Boogeyman isn't great on the mic. As for Batista, I don't think I've ever seen him wrestle a match impressively. Jericho is a great wrestler, and a great entertainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 [quote='Star' pid='1593021' dateline='1231805870'] [quote='Avarice' pid='1592978' dateline='1231805445'] [quote='Star' pid='1592956' dateline='1231805291'] [quote='Avarice' pid='1592944' dateline='1231805176'] [quote='Star' pid='1592918' dateline='1231804975'] [quote='Avarice' pid='1592906' dateline='1231804879'] [quote='Star' pid='1592898' dateline='1231804801'] [quote='Avarice' pid='1592883' dateline='1231804670'] [quote='Star' pid='1592867' dateline='1231804521'] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move, and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted. [/quote] You are not weighing the odds. Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves. I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves. Same as umaga, who disappeared >_> And even Big Slow. [/quote] Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. [b]Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD[/b] Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. [/quote] Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. [/quote] Ok ok, whatever. Let's move on. [b]Chris Jericho is arguably a great superstar on Raw[/b], and he is without a doubt [b]as good as Batista[/b]. Not only does he actually know how to wrestle, [s]he actually has mic skills.[/s] [/quote] Mike skills aren't everything, take the boogy man, and umaga, people like mysterious wrestlers. Now, I believe Jericho was better back in the Golden years, his new "saga" is crap, and I don't like it, he needs that beard again, that beard was kick ass.. [/quote] [b]If Jericho is as good as Batista, why didn't Batista defeat him in that Steel Cage Match? Why didn't Batista defeat him at No Mercy?[/b] [b]How can you say The Boogeyman has bad mic skills?[/b] [b]When it comes to mic skills, Santino Marella is the best there is.[/b] [/quote] Bold one, um.. Dumb ass its scripted. Bold two, the boogey man says 8 words total "I'm the Boggeyman, and I'm... COMIN' TO GET CHYA'!!" Bold three, no, Santina knows how to be a heel. [/quote] You're saying Santino doesn't have good mic skills? Ok, so maybe The Boogeyman isn't great on the mic. As for Batista, I don't think I've ever seen him wrestle a match impressively. Jericho is a great wrestler, and a great entertainer. [/quote] Views on wrestlers, are different to each fan. Which is why, the WWE is still here today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Chaos Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Well well, when it comes to RAW, HBK is simply the best.He has everything, yes EVERYTHING, to be a great wrestler.The guy entertains me with his cool moves, technical abilities, funny AND serious mic skills, being 44 and doing a wide range of high flying moves, acting as a heel and face great, what did I miss?:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The Abyss Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 [quote='Avarice' pid='1593033' dateline='1231805952'] [quote='Star' pid='1593021' dateline='1231805870'] [quote='Avarice' pid='1592978' dateline='1231805445'] [quote='Star' pid='1592956' dateline='1231805291'] [quote='Avarice' pid='1592944' dateline='1231805176'] [quote='Star' pid='1592918' dateline='1231804975'] [quote='Avarice' pid='1592906' dateline='1231804879'] [quote='Star' pid='1592898' dateline='1231804801'] [quote='Avarice' pid='1592883' dateline='1231804670'] [quote='Star' pid='1592867' dateline='1231804521'] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9q7fckBng Take a look at that video. Ziggler is pulling off an amazing move, and wow! It's on Batista! Ziggler should have won that match, but he didn't because matches are scripted. [/quote] You are not weighing the odds. Batista is a heavy weight, dolph is no where near that comprehension qualities that Batista needs to get more moves. I mean look Khali, that Oak of a man, knows 3 moves. Same as umaga, who disappeared >_> And even Big Slow. [/quote] Umaga is returning to Smackdown soon. They have been showing videos on Smackdown promoting Umaga's return. [b]Khali is awesome because he's Khali. I don't care how many moves he does, he's just cool. XD[/b] Khali can't wrestle that well, though. WWE needs to get rid of ECW and put Matt Hardy on Smackdown. The Boogeyman needs a push too. Like a major push. Like a super major push. [/quote] Now your just being biased >_> There's no point in arguing now, if your just going to be biased. [/quote] Ok ok, whatever. Let's move on. [b]Chris Jericho is arguably a great superstar on Raw[/b], and he is without a doubt [b]as good as Batista[/b]. Not only does he actually know how to wrestle, [s]he actually has mic skills.[/s] [/quote] Mike skills aren't everything, take the boogy man, and umaga, people like mysterious wrestlers. Now, I believe Jericho was better back in the Golden years, his new "saga" is crap, and I don't like it, he needs that beard again, that beard was kick ass.. [/quote] [b]If Jericho is as good as Batista, why didn't Batista defeat him in that Steel Cage Match? Why didn't Batista defeat him at No Mercy?[/b] [b]How can you say The Boogeyman has bad mic skills?[/b] [b]When it comes to mic skills, Santino Marella is the best there is.[/b] [/quote] Bold one, um.. Dumb ass its scripted. Bold two, the boogey man says 8 words total "I'm the Boggeyman, and I'm... COMIN' TO GET CHYA'!!" Bold three, no, Santina knows how to be a heel. [/quote] You're saying Santino doesn't have good mic skills? Ok, so maybe The Boogeyman isn't great on the mic. As for Batista, I don't think I've ever seen him wrestle a match impressively. Jericho is a great wrestler, and a great entertainer. [/quote] Views on wrestlers, are different to each fan. Which is why, the WWE is still here today. [/quote] Silence! Star raised a good point. Santino Marella is win. Quadruple win....In a can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Well well' date=' when it comes to RAW, HBK is simply the best.He has everything, yes EVERYTHING, to be a great wrestler.The guy entertains me with his cool moves, technical abilities, funny AND serious mic skills, being 44 and doing a wide range of high flying moves, acting as a heel and face great, what did I miss?:D[/quote'] "Hey, JBL, hit me with your finisher so I can do nothing and let you pin me." "Hey, I'm a sellout now." "Hey, I should quit wrestling before I make even more of a fool of myself." Those are three things Shawn Michaels should say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Chaos Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 OMG, I feel you have no respect for HBK's great and long career.This weird scripted storyline is just a filler until HBK feuds with Undertaker at WM25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 OMG' date=' I feel you have no respect for HBK's great and long career.This weird [b']scripted[/b] storyline is just a filler until HBK feuds with Undertaker at WM25 Shawn Michaels the character has possibly ruined his career. I say possibly because I'm waiting to see if he decides to help JBL win the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Chaos Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Well, I guess he won't.However, this might set a match between them at WM25 which is bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Not exactly a fan of the present WWE - the script fails, by and large, nowadays. Still, I have mine favorites, from Ric Flair to Stone Cold to HBK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I agree with the scripts being bad nowadays. We need more things happening in the locker rooms on in the parking lot. And better wrestlers interview. Big show is really boring to watch they need to let him throw the other athletes and stop it with the "one punch knock out". It's even worse than JBL's finisher. Undertaker and Kane are the best heavyweight out there. Chris Jericho has really amazing and original moves. He should go back to insulting stephanie mcmahon like the good old days too. Randy Orton, HHH, HBK, Miz and Morrison, Cryme tyme, Santino Marella all know how to give a good show. Edge can wrestle well. He needs to stop relying on Vikie. I'm sick of John Cena he's always the champ or competing for the title. Give the other wrestlers a chance. During this time Cena could very well compete for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommers2008 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 wwe fails im sorry it is nothing compared to the old wwf and the beginning of wwe it is just a joke nowadays.. and im sorry but anyone who says different doesn't really no anything about wrestling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 wwe fails im sorry it is nothing compared to the old wwf and the beginning of wwe it is just a joke nowadays.. and im sorry but anyone who says different doesn't really no anything about wrestling... I don't think WWE fails, and I've been watching wrestling for nearly six years. It's not as good as it used to be, but it definitely doesn't fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommers2008 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 come on now star.. they have resorted to bringing back old wrestlers to fill up match cards instead of pushing current talent now i haven't watched it in a good while so i may be wrong.. but as a fan of about 9 years it is at it worst and seemed to be only getting worse when i stopped watching... they are at a golden point because i understand they have amazing new talent am i correct.. its time to get rid of dead weight(some wrestlers& that awful ecw), make a solid tag team division, have about 8-10 proper good wrestlers challenging for each heavyweight belt,2 versions of the intercontinental title(may have that already im not sure)(EDIT: united states title forgot that),and a good mix of fresh talent and current/old talent challenging for that(by old i don't mean hacksaw jim duggan and them)i mean benjamin,matt and jeff hardy and likes of them.. and i no alot of people want jeff to win wwe title but frankly he isn't heavyweight material.. there is a lot of other thingsa they need to do as well but i would like to see your response to these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The Abyss Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Doesn't fail. Scripts are meh, because ther in the Child-Oriented Era now. Attitude Era was win, case closed.Orton FTW You are a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Orton FTW You are a genius. Yeah, about that... 3-move Orton > 5-move Cena? I honestly liked Orton a lot some time ago, and needless to say, the RKO goes nicely with his persona (and looks cool to top it off). But after he gained the title some months ago, I couldn't help but notice, especially in last year's Royal Rumble title match against Jeff Hardy... How many moves does Orton have? A headlock, an interesting backbreaker, the everyday stomps and punches, and the RKO. In terms of sheer lack of variety, it definitely rivals Triple H's moveset, except the latter knows how to put on a show with what he has. Still, this is just my opinion. About John Cena... God just stop pushing him already. I was so very happy when he had that brief rivalry with JBL and the alliance with Cryme Tyme, because he wasn't invincible, and he wasn't holding gold... it was really nice. At least he had a gimmick when he played white rapper, now what exactly is he? He reminds me of FFIX's last boss Necron - he shows up out of nowhere, nobody knows why he's there, what exactly is his personality, but being the last boss, he kicks your a** to hell and back numerous times. 'Kay, lame comparison, but still. :P About Michaels' current storyline... Well, it's just that, another storyline - WWE needs them badly, lately every rivalry has revolved around titles, which is pretty boring, or around completely idiotic premises, namely that Kane-Mysterio joke of a plot.A 20-year-something legacy isn't thrown away by one storyline. 90% of the wrestlers have heel and face turns throughout their careers, and let's face it, Michaels is the eternal tweener. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Edge can wrestle well. He needs to stop relying on Vickie. I call one better - drop the whole act. I'm sick of John Cena he's always the champ or competing for the title. Give the other wrestlers a chance. During this time Cena could very well compete for something else. ... and what should Cena do in the sidelines? Revert to his old gimmick? its time to get rid of dead weight(some wrestlers& that awful ecw), make a solid tag team division, have about 8-10 proper good wrestlers challenging for each heavyweight belt,2 versions of the intercontinental title(may have that already im not sure)(EDIT: united states title forgot that),and a good mix of fresh talent and current/old talent challenging for that(by old i don't mean hacksaw jim duggan and them)i mean benjamin,matt and jeff hardy and likes of them.. and i no alot of people want jeff to win wwe title but frankly he isn't heavyweight material.. there is a lot of other thingsa they need to do as well but i would like to see your response to these. Ex the misspellings, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I'm sick of John Cena he's always the champ or competing for the title. Give the other wrestlers a chance. During this time Cena could very well compete for something else. ... and what should Cena do in the sidelines? Revert to his old gimmick? Fight against undertaker, big show, kane, mark henry... You know take down the big guys 1 by 1 just like stone cold and the rock did. It's just that it doesn't always have to be for the title.He did it once with batista at summerslam and it was a really good match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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