OMGAKITTY Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Government=Corrupt because the only people who would go for a government job are those looking for power over other people (which is the definition of corruption)Plus' date=' where would the gov't get the money to pay the bailout money from other than the taxpayer's pockets? Plus, electric cars are hypocritical if they are powered by coal power plants.Plus, you need coal/gas furnaces in order to melt the aluminum to cast the frame work. And yes, it has to be aluminum. Electric cars don't have the horsepower to ferry stell bodies. And like you said, it will cost more. And I doubt you want to pay 10 times as much for equal if not less car.[/quote'] I beg to differ.[spoiler=corrupt]–adjective1. guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.2. debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.3. made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.4. infected; tainted.5. decayed; putrid.–verb (used with object)6. to destroy the integrity of; cause to be dishonest, disloyal, etc., esp. by bribery.7. to lower morally; pervert: to corrupt youth.8. to alter (a language, text, etc.) for the worse; debase.9. to mar; spoil.10. to infect; taint.11. to make putrid or putrescent.12. English Law. to subject (an attainted person) to corruption of blood.–verb (used without object)13. to become corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Government=Corrupt because the only people who would go for a government job are those looking for power over other people (which is the definition of corruption)Plus' date=' where would the gov't get the money to pay the bailout money from other than the taxpayer's pockets? Plus, electric cars are hypocritical if they are powered by coal power plants.Plus, you need coal/gas furnaces in order to melt the aluminum to cast the frame work. And yes, it has to be aluminum. Electric cars don't have the horsepower to ferry stell bodies. And like you said, it will cost more. And I doubt you want to pay 10 times as much for equal if not less car.[/quote'] I beg to differ.[spoiler=corrupt]–adjective1. guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.2. debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.3. made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.4. infected; tainted.5. decayed; putrid.–verb (used with object)6. to destroy the integrity of; cause to be dishonest, disloyal, etc., esp. by bribery.7. to lower morally; pervert: to corrupt youth.8. to alter (a language, text, etc.) for the worse; debase.9. to mar; spoil.10. to infect; taint.11. to make putrid or putrescent.12. English Law. to subject (an attainted person) to corruption of blood.–verb (used without object)13. to become corrupt. Dictionary Definitions and Real Life definitions tend to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Government=Corrupt because the only people who would go for a government job are those looking for power over other people (which is the definition of corruption)Plus' date=' where would the gov't get the money to pay the bailout money from other than the taxpayer's pockets? Plus, electric cars are hypocritical if they are powered by coal power plants.Plus, you need coal/gas furnaces in order to melt the aluminum to cast the frame work. And yes, it has to be aluminum. Electric cars don't have the horsepower to ferry stell bodies. And like you said, it will cost more. And I doubt you want to pay 10 times as much for equal if not less car.[/quote'] I beg to differ.[spoiler=corrupt]–adjective1. guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.2. debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.3. made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.4. infected; tainted.5. decayed; putrid.–verb (used with object)6. to destroy the integrity of; cause to be dishonest, disloyal, etc., esp. by bribery.7. to lower morally; pervert: to corrupt youth.8. to alter (a language, text, etc.) for the worse; debase.9. to mar; spoil.10. to infect; taint.11. to make putrid or putrescent.12. English Law. to subject (an attainted person) to corruption of blood.–verb (used without object)13. to become corrupt. Dictionary Definitions and Real Life definitions tend to differ. In other words, you like to redefine words to serve your purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Government=Corrupt because the only people who would go for a government job are those looking for power over other people (which is the definition of corruption)Plus' date=' where would the gov't get the money to pay the bailout money from other than the taxpayer's pockets? Plus, electric cars are hypocritical if they are powered by coal power plants.Plus, you need coal/gas furnaces in order to melt the aluminum to cast the frame work. And yes, it has to be aluminum. Electric cars don't have the horsepower to ferry stell bodies. And like you said, it will cost more. And I doubt you want to pay 10 times as much for equal if not less car.[/quote'] I beg to differ.[spoiler=corrupt]–adjective1. guilty of dishonest practices, as bribery; lacking integrity; crooked: a corrupt judge.2. debased in character; depraved; perverted; wicked; evil: a corrupt society.3. made inferior by errors or alterations, as a text.4. infected; tainted.5. decayed; putrid.–verb (used with object)6. to destroy the integrity of; cause to be dishonest, disloyal, etc., esp. by bribery.7. to lower morally; pervert: to corrupt youth.8. to alter (a language, text, etc.) for the worse; debase.9. to mar; spoil.10. to infect; taint.11. to make putrid or putrescent.12. English Law. to subject (an attainted person) to corruption of blood.–verb (used without object)13. to become corrupt. Dictionary Definitions and Real Life definitions tend to differ. In other words, you like to redefine words to serve your purpose. In other words, the definitions of words are altered when applied to real life by the subconcious.Every functional person does it. -This is my last post on the debates section for a while. Doing stuff like this is causing me sever anxiety and stress.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordtyson Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 how is debateing causeing you "sever anxiety and stress"are you 80 years old or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Really now....an internet debate on economics is causing you stress?Mayhaps you are not suited for internet life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordtyson Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yes. WTF?this is not a 'yes/no' question you have to tell why you think the way you do if you dont wanta then get off the debates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Yes. WTF?this is not a 'yes/no' question you have to tell why you think the way you do if you dont wanta then get off the debates My simple yes makes more sense then every single post of yours. Plus it's grammatically right unlike your posts. ITT: Kids who think they're economic geniuses who's idea's will fix the recession and bring world peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted February 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 It was the retarded stock brokers. They're all stupid. They put the profits towards themselves' date=' not giving a rabbit's eye as to what the citizens will be getting. [b']In fact, many CEOs of companies predicted this recession, gave themselves $400,000+ bonuses and left. It's their fault, not the government's.[/b] By the way, I am one hundred percent towards nuclear power. It's clean, it's quick, and it works alot better than 10,000 windmills taking up the country side, and as a plus, nuclear power shoots H20 out of its thermals like crazy. The only thing we would have to worry about is the thing blowing up, and the chances of that are 0. I bolded everthing that is wrong with that statement, and italisized everthing that is right. Sorry, but this reccession wasn't predicted until the gov't started throwing money around.The entire Bailout system is to blame. It creates a defecit spending that takes money away from the taxpayers. The government should just get the hell out of it. Nuclear reactors don't blow up. Ever. The core melts through the lining a little. Every safety precaution in a standard Nuclear Power plant stops this, though. One word... Chernoble. Whoa whoa whoa. You know if you want to get into cars' date=' just ask. If you do ask me... We are all being dubbed. The gas industry and sellers... Producers... The whole shebang is getting oil and getting rich off of it. Oil prices were skyrocketing a while back. Why? Because we all keep getting gasoline run cars. The solution? Simple, electric cars. Much cleaner, and run on energy. Sure your electric bill will be higher, and sure it may be a pain to plug in a lot. But who gives a #$@#$ about that stuff if it's the planet in question? (Note, I don't want to start yet ANOTHER tangent about global warming)[/quote'] Then why the hell would you post that?Besides, it is a little hypocritical to tell us to switch to electric cars when the US is largely based on Coal and Fossil Fuels.And how would we get alluminum for the cars when electric forges can't reach the necessary tempuratures? The thing about it is, people believe whatever is shoved down their thorats. Here is how the world works: Government=Inefficient/Corrupt, Global Warming=Amazingly Beneficial if it were true, and Electric Cars=Too Inefficiant to be a viable source of transportation. You say the government is hopelessly corrupt, but really, wasn't it the corporations that misused the bailout money? Besides, because of how the government is set up (free election), congressmen have to vote to keep the public happy, not for what's best for the nation, if they plan to keep their jobs.It's not so much corruption as...a flawed system. And electric cars have been tested, and work well. Car companies don't want to switch over because they cost more to produce. Government=Corrupt because the only people who would go for a government job are those looking for power over other people (which is the definition of corruption)Plus, where would the gov't get the money to pay the bailout money from other than the taxpayer's pockets? Plus, electric cars are hypocritical if they are powered by coal power plants.Plus, you need coal/gas furnaces in order to melt the aluminum to cast the frame work. And yes, it has to be aluminum. Electric cars don't have the horsepower to ferry stell bodies. And like you said, it will cost more. And I doubt you want to pay 10 times as much for equal if not less car. You elect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 It was the retarded stock brokers. They're all stupid. They put the profits towards themselves' date=' not giving a rabbit's eye as to what the citizens will be getting. [b']In fact, many CEOs of companies predicted this recession, gave themselves $400,000+ bonuses and left. It's their fault, not the government's.[/b] By the way, I am one hundred percent towards nuclear power. It's clean, it's quick, and it works alot better than 10,000 windmills taking up the country side, and as a plus, nuclear power shoots H20 out of its thermals like crazy. The only thing we would have to worry about is the thing blowing up, and the chances of that are 0. I bolded everthing that is wrong with that statement, and italisized everthing that is right. Sorry, but this reccession wasn't predicted until the gov't started throwing money around.The entire Bailout system is to blame. It creates a defecit spending that takes money away from the taxpayers. The government should just get the hell out of it. Nuclear reactors don't blow up. Ever. The core melts through the lining a little. Every safety precaution in a standard Nuclear Power plant stops this, though. One word... Chernoble. Whoa whoa whoa. You know if you want to get into cars' date=' just ask. If you do ask me... We are all being dubbed. The gas industry and sellers... Producers... The whole shebang is getting oil and getting rich off of it. Oil prices were skyrocketing a while back. Why? Because we all keep getting gasoline run cars. The solution? Simple, electric cars. Much cleaner, and run on energy. Sure your electric bill will be higher, and sure it may be a pain to plug in a lot. But who gives a #$@#$ about that stuff if it's the planet in question? (Note, I don't want to start yet ANOTHER tangent about global warming)[/quote'] Then why the hell would you post that?Besides, it is a little hypocritical to tell us to switch to electric cars when the US is largely based on Coal and Fossil Fuels.And how would we get alluminum for the cars when electric forges can't reach the necessary tempuratures? The thing about it is, people believe whatever is shoved down their thorats. Here is how the world works: Government=Inefficient/Corrupt, Global Warming=Amazingly Beneficial if it were true, and Electric Cars=Too Inefficiant to be a viable source of transportation. You say the government is hopelessly corrupt, but really, wasn't it the corporations that misused the bailout money? Besides, because of how the government is set up (free election), congressmen have to vote to keep the public happy, not for what's best for the nation, if they plan to keep their jobs.It's not so much corruption as...a flawed system. And electric cars have been tested, and work well. Car companies don't want to switch over because they cost more to produce. Government=Corrupt because the only people who would go for a government job are those looking for power over other people (which is the definition of corruption)Plus, where would the gov't get the money to pay the bailout money from other than the taxpayer's pockets? Plus, electric cars are hypocritical if they are powered by coal power plants.Plus, you need coal/gas furnaces in order to melt the aluminum to cast the frame work. And yes, it has to be aluminum. Electric cars don't have the horsepower to ferry stell bodies. And like you said, it will cost more. And I doubt you want to pay 10 times as much for equal if not less car. You elect them. Italicized Quote Several words (I'm too lazy to count them): First, it is Chernobyl second, Chernobyl was the absolute worst case scenario. Every single safety precaution on the reactor core had been turned off, and the power had been spiked. It was human actions (rather than neglegance) that caused it. Plus, the power plant was working for 5+ years, and the surrounding landscape is in fact in better condition than before the incident. And I don't elect those who obtain office due to the fact that I am a minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well, someday you will elect them. Then maybe you'll stop jabroniing about how the government is "corrupt". EDIT: lolwut? Word filter is off? Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well' date=' someday you will elect them. Then maybe you'll stop jabroniing about how the government is "corrupt". EDIT: lolwut? Word filter is off? Sweet.[/quote'] Yeah, if it gets as bad as I predict it will, then I will vote, but the person I vote for will probably not win.(Palin 2012) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 You'll only vote if it gets as bad as you think it will? You should vote anyway as your civil duty as an American. If the government is as "corrupt" as you say it is, it's because people like you choose not to vote. Uhg. Palin? Palin was one of the reasons I supported Obama. That woman scares the daylights out of me. She should not be running this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 You'll only vote if it gets as bad as you think it will? You should vote anyway as your civil duty as an American. If the government is as "corrupt" as you say it is' date=' it's because people like you choose not to vote. Uhg. Palin? Palin was one of the reasons I supported Obama. That woman scares the daylights out of me. She should not be running this country.[/quote'] And neither should Obama.But that is a different debate. And you are taking what I said too literally.And all politicians are corrupt. It's what drives them to become politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I'll give you the point that the US governmental system isn't exactly nourishing towards politicians with ideals. But I still disagree that it is corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Corruption in politics is the misuse of political power for personal gain or control of others.Therefore, the bailout system, school funding by a national government, and parking meters are all good examples of things that will put those people under the thumb of the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 The bailout was an emergency incident...and I'm not going to repeat myself again on the whole jobs thing. I'd like you to clarify how school funding and parking meters are used for personal gain or control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Ok, first of all, do you pay taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 No, at least not yet. EDIT: by the way, you used the wrong profit in your sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 The bailout was an emergency incident...and I'm not going to repeat myself again on the whole jobs thing. I'd like you to clarify how school funding and parking meters are used for personal gain or control. Schools were never supposed to be done by the Federal government. That power was reserved to the states by the constitution. But through reinterpretations of the constitution by Judges and Politicians, the Department of Education was created. Parking Meters are fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 The bailout was an emergency incident...and I'm not going to repeat myself again on the whole jobs thing. I'd like you to clarify how school funding and parking meters are used for personal gain or control. Schools were never supposed to be done by the Federal government. That power was reserved to the states by the constitution. But through reinterpretations of the constitution by Judges and Politicians' date=' the Department of Education was created. Parking Meters are fine though.[/quote'] 1. That's still the government.2. Doesn't really clarify (to me) how it is used for personal gain/control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 1) Yes. I am saying that the Federal government wanted more power and control, and so reinterpreted the constitution so that they could usurp the states power to control their own school systems, creating a massive bueracracy and destroying schools nationwide with programs like No Child Left Behind (NCLB).2) I am saying that they are not, that there is nothing wrong with parking meters, and that they in no way exert control over the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 No' date=' at least not yet. EDIT: by the way, you used the wrong profit in your sig.[/quote'] Ok, so, if nobody paid taxes where would the government get its money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 No' date=' at least not yet. EDIT: by the way, you used the wrong profit in your sig.[/quote'] Ok, so, if nobody paid taxes where would the government get its money? -_________-They'd form leagues of pirates and rob other countries. How about you stop treating me like I'm six, and get to the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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