harhar Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 haris: You just say that cuz you like him and are friends with him. >=[ Larxene: No' date= he isn't. He is obviously inexperienced, and hates me, and if he was mod, I'd bet you 99.9% He'd give me a 50% or higher perma-warning or even ban me.[/quote] If he did that he would be demoted wouldn't he ;)No one would care about you and your warning levels tho he would be a hero for punishing you for spamming. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 haris: You just say that cuz you like him and are friends with him. >=[ Larxene: No' date= he isn't. He is obviously inexperienced, and hates me, and if he was mod, I'd bet you 99.9% He'd give me a 50% or higher perma-warning or even ban me.[/quote] xDDD 1. I am experienced, got it? I'm a mod at a forum right now. It may not be as big as YCM, but I do my job. 2. I don't hate you. I dislike you, but I don't hate you. Maybe if you weren't a drama queen and quit saying your leaving, I'd like you a bit more. =] 3. Giving someone a 50% or higher warning to get permabanned because you dislike them is one of the worst things a mod could do. Honestly. Don't take me for a childish noob. Please, get your facts straight before making random assumptions about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroshot Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I have a good chance. I lol'd so hard. There are many members other than you that would make excellent moderators. Like Icy or Ruby. Not you. =) Is it really fair to say who wouldn't make a good moderator?Like, if he had less than 100 posts an dtaks liek dis all da tiem, of course that is not moderation material, but do you know Deliverence? Do you know he wouldn't be a good mod? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harhar Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Deliverance act's better then most members with high post counts.He is awesome and doesn't afraid of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I say let the users vote on it.(There could even be a campaign or something)And the runner up would take the position if the mod was fired.Similar to the miss America Pagent, except with more text, and less "What would you do if you were Miss America?"...Why did I know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harhar Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 If members voted they would vote for their friends and tell their friends to vote for them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 If members voted they would vote for their friends and tell their friends to vote for them as well. Exactly. All I can say is, trust YCMaker to do his job and pick the right people for the position. Personally, I believe it should be one mod for each section, as I seriously doubt someone could handle all three sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 If members voted they would vote for their friends and tell their friends to vote for them as well. Real politics works in the exact same way, and I know we are better than that. But, if it is up to YCMaker, the applicants should still be trying prove to him that they are the right choice (and we all know how), rather than arguing about who is wrong for it and who is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 But' date=' if it is up to YCMaker, the applicants should still be trying prove to him that they are the right choice (and we all know how)[/quote'] The term used for those people is "suck ups". =P I just be myself. Anybody who kisses up to him shouldn't get the position. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harhar Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 But' date=' if it is up to YCMaker, the applicants should still be trying prove to him that they are the right choice (and we all know how)[/quote'] The term used for those people is "suck ups". =P I just be myself. Anybody who kisses up to him shouldn't get the position. =/ Being yourself is the reason I like you more then most of the newer members of this forumz.You is awesome and doesn't afraid of anything.So with that you speak your mind and reveal a more normal and friendly type of personality.Your like the friend everyone has in real life. =PI'm still hungry <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 But' date=' if it is up to YCMaker, the applicants should still be trying prove to him that they are the right choice (and we all know how)[/quote'] The term used for those people is "suck ups". =P I just be myself. Anybody who kisses up to him shouldn't get the position. =/ Being yourself is the reason I like you more then most of the newer members of this forumz.You is awesome and doesn't afraid of anything.So with that you speak your mind and reveal a more normal and friendly type of personality.Your like the friend everyone has in real life. =PI'm still hungry <_< Random moment of the day goes to HARIS! xD Thank you, BTW. =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusMFD Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 But' date=' if it is up to YCMaker, the applicants should still be trying prove to him that they are the right choice (and we all know how)[/quote'] The term used for those people is "suck ups". =P I just be myself. Anybody who kisses up to him shouldn't get the position. =/ Being yourself is the reason I like you more then most of the newer members of this forumz.You is awesome and doesn't afraid of anything.So with that you speak your mind and reveal a more normal and friendly type of personality.Your like the friend everyone has in real life. =PI'm still hungry <_< Random moment of the day goes to HARIS! xD Thank you, BTW. =] I never said for the applicants to go out of thier way to make themselves seem better than the rest, I said for the applicants to go along as normal business while showing how they will behave and such when they are a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harhar Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 But' date=' if it is up to YCMaker, the applicants should still be trying prove to him that they are the right choice (and we all know how)[/quote'] The term used for those people is "suck ups". =P I just be myself. Anybody who kisses up to him shouldn't get the position. =/ Being yourself is the reason I like you more then most of the newer members of this forumz.You is awesome and doesn't afraid of anything.So with that you speak your mind and reveal a more normal and friendly type of personality.Your like the friend everyone has in real life. =PI'm still hungry <_< Random moment of the day goes to HARIS! xD Thank you, BTW. =] I never said for the applicants to go out of thier way to make themselves seem better than the rest, I said for the applicants to go along as normal business while showing how they will behave and such when they are a mod. We both know they will "try" to act normal.They wont act like themselves.It's not like YCMaker or the other mods have the time to watch every member and their behavior.It's faster and easier to just pick a member that other mods find worthy.It might not be the best idea but that's how it's been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hunter for multimedia mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harhar Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hunter for multimedia mod. We know you will get the position =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Whisper Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well' date=' here's a suggestion for if we have a mod for each subsection. The Music Mod should have knowledge of music. Not just bands and songs and all that, but also music literature and music instrument knowledge. Like knowing how to play, write, and read music, as well as having a good experience with alot of different musical equipment and instruments. The Video Game mod should be the most active and most knowledgeable member in that section. Having details about nearly every popular game. And the movies mod should be sort of the same as the Video Game mod, except different person and with movies instead. Just my suggestion/recommendation.[/quote'] That is exactly why we should have one in each section. But besides, being a moderator means you have to be responsible to be one, not just knowing the stuff in the section. But in a way, you are right. Well, yeah, of course you would need experience, responsibility and the will to do what is right, but I assumed that others would already know that, since they are just the surface features of a moderator. To me, this forum is set up like a business building. The administrator is the CEO, the Super Moderators are the highly paid and well respected office workers, the moderators are the average office worker, and the members are the clients and customers. The higher you are ranked, the more responsbility you have proven to hold and have the will to take. That's why being a moderator means you have to be someone who can and will do what is needed and what is right. There is no talent to being a moderator, there isn't past experience. There's only the ability to perform hard work and keep performing it consistantly, even if you make some mistakes. "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."~anonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Lol!Moderating is not about general knowledge. It is about your ability to assess a situation and bring it to a close with the least amount of mess. ie: Establishing control where needed. This does not mean that you need any knowledge of the section you are moderating, a good sense of responsibility is enough. Albeit, knowledge of a section is helpful when personalizing an area and establishing the rules for it. But it is by no means required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 haris: You just say that cuz you like him and are friends with him. >=[ Larxene: No' date= he isn't. He is obviously inexperienced, and hates me, and if he was mod, I'd bet you 99.9% He'd give me a 50% or higher perma-warning or even ban me.[/quote] Friendship means nothing. YCMaker won't give a damn about who your friends are. Also lets address your second statment in a more direct manner. a) You will never become a mod, I'm sure Salty can make sure that doesn't happen.b) He might become a mod, he has the experience and knowledge needed but there are several other candidates.c) Unlike some people he won't "leave" and make 3K threads about it and come back the next day and I'm positive that unlike some people he isn't going to be a 10 year old wannabe.d) I'd bet you 99.9% that the warning/ban which he might give you are well deserved.e) looooooooool you came back to be a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well' date=' here's a suggestion for if we have a mod for each subsection. The Music Mod should have knowledge of music. Not just bands and songs and all that, but also music literature and music instrument knowledge. Like knowing how to play, write, and read music, as well as having a good experience with alot of different musical equipment and instruments. The Video Game mod should be the most active and most knowledgeable member in that section. Having details about nearly every popular game. And the movies mod should be sort of the same as the Video Game mod, except different person and with movies instead. Just my suggestion/recommendation.[/quote'] That is exactly why we should have one in each section. But besides, being a moderator means you have to be responsible to be one, not just knowing the stuff in the section. But in a way, you are right. Well, yeah, of course you would need experience, responsibility and the will to do what is right, but I assumed that others would already know that, since they are just the surface features of a moderator. More than half of the people who applied have no idea they need responsibility. To me, this forum is set up like a business building. The administrator is the CEO President, the Super Moderators are the highly paid and well respected office workers CEO's, the moderators are the average office worker Managers, and the members are the clients and customers Clerks. I had to correct you there ;P The higher you are ranked, the more responsbility you have proven to hold and have the will to take. That's why being a moderator means you have to be someone who can and will do what is needed and what is right. There is no talent to being a moderator, there isn't past experience. There's only the ability to perform hard work and keep performing it consistantly, even if you make some mistakes. Experience beats both. If you had experience, that means you won't make the same mistakes. Besides, in an office (as your example), the higher rank you are usually is due to the trust the President (aka. YCMaker) has in you and the amount of experience you've had. "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."~anonymous. Nice quote ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Whisper Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well' date=' here's a suggestion for if we have a mod for each subsection. The Music Mod should have knowledge of music. Not just bands and songs and all that, but also music literature and music instrument knowledge. Like knowing how to play, write, and read music, as well as having a good experience with alot of different musical equipment and instruments. The Video Game mod should be the most active and most knowledgeable member in that section. Having details about nearly every popular game. And the movies mod should be sort of the same as the Video Game mod, except different person and with movies instead. Just my suggestion/recommendation.[/quote'] That is exactly why we should have one in each section. But besides, being a moderator means you have to be responsible to be one, not just knowing the stuff in the section. But in a way, you are right. Well, yeah, of course you would need experience, responsibility and the will to do what is right, but I assumed that others would already know that, since they are just the surface features of a moderator. More than half of the people who applied have no idea they need responsibility.Then those people do not have common sense. To me, this forum is set up like a business building. The administrator is the CEO President, the Super Moderators are the highly paid and well respected office workers CEO's, the moderators are the average office worker Managers, and the members are the clients and customers Clerks. I had to correct you there ;PWhat ever makes you understand, then I don't care. The higher you are ranked, the more responsbility you have proven to hold and have the will to take. That's why being a moderator means you have to be someone who can and will do what is needed and what is right. There is no talent to being a moderator, there isn't past experience. There's only the ability to perform hard work and keep performing it consistantly, even if you make some mistakes. Experience beats both. If you had experience, that means you won't make the same mistakes. Besides, in an office (as your example), the higher rank you are usually is due to the trust the President (aka. YCMaker) has in you and the amount of experience you've had.Well, what I meant was that if you work your hardest even after you have made some mistakes, then you should also be learning from those mistakes, thus giving you experience. I doubt that 3/4 of the current moderators had had a moderating experience before thay were chosen. And no, I'm not talking about moderating an IPBFree or another small forum site, I'm talking about official sites like this one, planet renders, gimptalk, etc. All those large sites that base around one specific thing and then branch out. "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."~anonymous. Nice quote ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 There is no talent to being a moderator' date=' [u']WRONG.[/u]there isn't past experience. WRONG AGAIN. There's only the ability to perform hard work and keep performing it consistantly, even if you make some mistakes. Experience beats both. If you had experience, that means you won't make the same mistakes. Besides, in an office (as your example), the higher rank you are usually is due to the trust the President (aka. YCMaker) has in you and the amount of experience you've had.Well, what I meant was that if you work your hardest even after you have made some mistakes, then you should also be learning from those mistakes, thus giving you experience. I doubt that 3/4 of the current moderators had had a moderating experience before thay were chosen. And no, I'm not talking about moderating an IPBFree or another small forum site, I'm talking about official sites like this one, planet renders, gimptalk, etc. All those large sites that base around one specific thing and then branch out.Realize that half the moderators(from what I've seen) STILL don't know how to run this forum, even after making so many mistakes. That's because they didn't have past experience at all. Running a smaller forum gives you some experience, especially if you have been running several smaller forums for the past 2 years. Of course, you won't have much experience unless you have faced some of the great challenges that come with the mod job, such as major spammers(the type that, for example, fill your forum with porn), and hackers. All the same, a mod needs to do their job. If they can't, they weren't a good choice. You can work your hardest and it won't mean sh** unless you have some experience to back you up. =/ My point is, Pikachu is almost right on this part. Experience is one of the best things to have when modding a forum. Of course, hard work is good as well. You need both, basically. Most people who applied for the position have neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm sure everyone including me are more then willing to hand the job over to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm sure everyone including me are more then willing to hand the job over to you. =] I'm glad you see the light. =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm sure everyone including me are more then willing to hand the job over to you. =] I'm glad you see the light. =P How cute =3 Don't push it >=\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroshot Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm sure everyone including me are more then willing to hand the job over to you. =] I'm glad you see the light. =P That ruins it.I don't like you anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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