Nightmarian VS Primal Release

[Nightmarian]

This is contest between Primal Release and me...community will choose the winner...

 

Loser will give 3 REPS to winner....

 

RULES :

-no cards that support themes

-no Buster monsters ( Assault Mode)

-no new sub-types , types, attributes or game mechanics

 

CARDS :

 

NIGHTMARIAN

 

You can reveal this card in your hand to send up to 2 "Malicious Souls" from your Deck to the Graveyard. When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, inflict 500 damage to your opponent. Then, you can return this card to your Deck to Special Summon up to 2 "Malicious Souls" from your Graveyard in Attack Position.

 

 

Explanation where this card can be used and some rulings :

-feel your graveyard quicker with DARK monsters ( Dark Armed Dragon, Dark Nepthys, The Dark Creator, Zombie Master etc.)

-Card of Safe Return will give only +1 draw if you Summon 2 "Malicious Souls" at same time

-for Tributes..

-when card is returned that means that deck will be shuffled after

-actually and Tele-Dad and Zombies could live without this card but this card makes another new decks and have its advantages but disadvantages too obv..thing what i like is that it feels gy, give more special summons and it burns which can be also used with Everliving Underworld Cannon

 

 

 

PRIMAL RELEASE

 

When this card is Summoned, return all monsters on the field to their owners hand. For each empty Monster Card Zone on your field, increase the ATK and DEF of this monster by 200. Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can send 2 cards in your Deck to the Graveyard to return 1 monster on your opponent's field to his/her hand. Once per turn, when your opponent declares an attack, you can send 1 monster on your field to your Graveyard to negate the attack. When this card is sent to the Graveyard by battle, return the attacking monster to your opponent's hand.

 

 

VOTING :

 

Voting should be done as follows:

 

You need to rate card in each field ( balance, wording, creativity, picture) and for each field maximum score you can give is 10.

Vote from person that is voting goes to a creator ( Nightmarian or Primal Release) that have higher total score of those 4 fields .

 

Creativity /10

Balance /10

Wording(OCG) /10

Picture /10

 

Any votes that will not follow above rules will not be counted.

 

Voting help and explanation of fields :

 

Creativity - how much unique effects and card is, is there something new in it what was not in other cards yet etc.

Balance - if card is broken or overpowered it lose points here..it also lose points if card is too weak..please compare this cards powers with TCG/OCG existing cards

Wording - grammar errors, wording errors , if some effect can be written in less words then that is error too..mentioning things in effect that are not neccesary ( for example - Special Summon monster in face-up Position , face-up Position is not needed to mention) .. you can also rate here grokkage (is effect too big and does it have sense, why creator placed them all in this card

Picture - are effect, type, attribute and name of card connected? What is picture quality.. Is it cool? Etc.

 

I guess this also helps in commenting your votes..

 

 

 

 

Winner will be creator with more votes at end of competition.

 

Competition will end at 1.2.2009. at 0:00 (0:00 GMT)

 

Thanks in advance for voting!!

[Golden Chaos]

Seems interesting!

 

Malicious Soul:

Creativity: 9/10. I loved how much potential will this card add to DARK decks, a good burner as well.

Balance: 8/10. However, it will make the already strong DARKs stronger which is not so good.

Wording: 10/10. Just like a real card.

Picture: 9/10. The image reflects the name and somehow the effect.

Total: 26/30.

 

Lonesome Wanderer:

Creativity: 8/10. Very good concept, badly shown.

Balance: 2/10. O Rly? I will clear the WHOLE field and get bonus ATK of 800 for just geting this thing to the field, not good at all! "Send 2 cards in Deck" which is using Foolish Burial TWICE, hey that card is already Semi-Limited! Too many effects for a LV.5.

Wording(OCG): 9/10. Very few wording mistakes, perhaps because the card is too long, but very nice wording.

Picture: 8/10. I loved it! But doesn't look like a Lv.5 for me and more of a Spellcaster than Warrior due to its tome.

Total: 17/30

 

My pick is Nightmarian.

[Monkey]

Seems interesting!

 

Malicious Soul:

Creativity: 9/10. I loved how much potential will this card add to DARK decks' date=' a good burner as well.

Balance: 8/10. However, it will make the already strong DARKs stronger which is not so good.

Wording: 10/10. Just like a real card.

Picture: 9/10. The image reflects the name and somehow the effect.

Total: 26/30.

 

Lonesome Wanderer:

Creativity: 8/10. Very good concept, badly shown.

[b']Balance: 2/10. O Rly? I will clear the WHOLE field and get bonus ATK of 800 for just geting this thing to the field, not good at all! "Send 2 cards in Deck" which is using Foolish Burial TWICE, hey that card is already Semi-Limited! Too many effects for a LV.5.[/b]

Wording(OCG): 9/10. Very few wording mistakes, perhaps because the card is too long, but very nice wording.

Picture: 8/10. I loved it! But doesn't look like a Lv.5 for me and more of a Spellcaster than Warrior due to its tome.

Total: 17/30

 

My pick is Nightmarian.

 

When the card is Summoned, ALL monsters (including Lonesome Wanderer) are returned...

 

But whatever, I accidentally made a mistake by not including "Special" before it

[Golden Chaos]

I forgot to say that this card breaks many other cards as D Hero Malicious, Wulf, Necro Gardna and others, plus it aids your SS needs by simply sending a monster to Grave and using Mosnter Reborn straight away. Oh, and using Zombie World with this, makes me shiver!! Plus, you can kill 5 SYNCHROS on your opponent's field by just Summoning this card devil!

[Monkey]

I forgot to say that this card breaks many other cards as D Hero Malicious' date=' Wulf, Necro Gardna and others, plus it aids your SS needs by simply sending a monster to Grave and using Mosnter Reborn straight away. Oh, and using Zombie World with this, makes me shiver!! Plus, you can kill 5 SYNCHROS on your opponent's field by just Summoning this card devil!

[/quote']

 

Uh huh..... (I have no clue what he just said)

[.Requiem]

Night

Creativity 7/10 The card isn't that great

Balance 7/10 Seems fine

Wording(OCG) 10/10 The first part doesn't make sense.

Picture 4/10 Pic can be better

28/40

 

Primal

Creativity 7/10 Can be better

Balance 4/10 Seems a little OP

Wording(OCG) 9/10 OCG is good as I cannot find anything

Picture 7/10 It can be better.

27/40

 

This is hard which one wins. Sorry Primal I did find an error.

[NeoDemonX]

nice cards it hard to pick but their have to be a winner

so I vote Primal Release

[Nightmarian]

How u mean it doesn't have sense? It is standard OCG ... reveal or show is same thing.. there is no single error in my wording... here i will show u similar TCG card :

 

Golden Ladybug

Attrib: Light

Type: Insect/Effect

Level:1

Atk: 0

Def: 0

Once per turn, during your Standby Phase, you can reveal this card in your hand to gain 500 Life Points. If you do, this card remains revealed while it is in your hand, until the End Phase.

[.Requiem]

Well fine I never seen the OCG like that, so you go up 2 points.

[aussieman000]

Malicious Soul:

Creativity: 9/10. Nice addition for Zombie/Skill Drain and Creature Swap decks, interesting way of remaking Giant Germ.

Balance: 10/10. Fueling DAD, yeah... Dark Grepher does a better job of that. The payoff for difficulty in activating the second effect balances it.

Wording: 10/10. I see no problem here.

Picture: 8/10. Certainly interesting.

Total: 37/40.

 

Lonesome Wanderer:

Creativity: 8/10.

Balance: 1/10. Super Grand Mole + Double Foolish Burial...

Wording(OCG): 7/10. Forgetting to include "Special" before "Summoned" affects this and the balance score...

Picture: 8/10. It's nice.

Total: 24/40

[Morgan LeFlay]

Malicious Soul

Creativity 9/10 (Pretty interesting twist to those Nimble Momonga-type cards.)

Balance 9/10

Wording(OCG) 10/10 (Perfect)

Picture 6/10 It's okay.

Total 34/40

 

Lonesome Wanderer

Creativity 7/10

Balance 8/10 (Just slightly overpowered, it would probably be fine without the last part.)

Wording(OCG) 7/10 (errors shown below)

Picture 8/10 (Pretty good, holo gets you a plus)

Total 30/40

 

 

[spoiler=OCG errors]When this card is Summoned, return all monsters on the field to their owner's hand. For each empty Monster Card Zone on your field, increase the ATK and DEF of this monster by 200. Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can send 2 cards in your Deck to the Graveyard to return 1 monster on your opponent's field to his/her hand. Once per turn, when your opponent declares an attack, you can send 1 monster on your field to the Graveyard to negate the attack. When this card destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, return the attacking monster to its owner's hand.

 

[Death Bishop]

All comments and thoughts are at the bottom. =)

 

Nightmarian:

Creativity => 9.5/10

Balance => 8.5/10

OCG => 10/10

Picture => 7/10

Overall => 35/40

 

Primal:

Creativity => 10/10

Balance => 7.5/10

OCG => 7/10

Picture => 10/10

Overall => 34.5/40

 

[spoiler= Thoughts/Comments][spoiler= Nightmarian] The name really kicked @$$! Picture wasnt as good as Primals but overall: Malicious Soul > Lonesome Wanderer.

[spoiler= Primal] The creativity and Picture blew my brains out! OCG could have been better but good try. Sorry Im going with Nightmarian on this one. ;)

 

 

[Monkey]

^you need to legitimize your reasons^

[Death Bishop]

OK I will *Edited in a sec*.

[42.42.564]

Malicious Soul:

Creativity: 8.5/10. competitive burner, effective and long last cycling. i like it more than gaint germ.

Balance: 8.5/10. not as easy to re-summon it again, at the beginning tho.

Wording: 10/10. as far as i can see, no error.

Picture: 8/10. ROFL. fussy bastard!! relevant to the name and the idea behind it. you got better pics..

Total: 35/40.

 

Lonesome Wanderer:

Creativity: 8/10. this returning idea will annoying the crap out of ur opponent.

Balance: 6/10. sending cards to the graveyard isn't necessarily a negative move. potential in abusive combos. i think you could have left out the last part of the effect.

Wording(OCG): 7/10. maybe u meant the word it that way so i can't tell for. so yea as mentioned above.. Summoned would make this card not playable. but this is a critical error..other parts sound good

Picture: 8/10. regardless of the realistic part, the pic is decent. it could have possibly stretch a bit horizontally. the holo and name holo looks nice done.

Total: 29/40

 

nightmare

[N00B Hunter]

Ohhhh goodness, it looks like "Nightmarian" is at 6, while "Primal Release" only has 1 vote... that hurts. But let me critique...

You guys... this is not YCMaker contest material. Both of you have a lot to learn about cardmaking:

 

"Primal Release" with "Lonesome Wanderer"

Creativity 10/10 -- It's good, I like it much. Kind of like a reverse "Eraser", but with no balance...

 

Balance 2/10 -- Please be serious.. First of all, when it's Summoned, all monsters go to both players hands. That's terribly balanced towards your opponent, because the Summon you just performed to get "Lonesome" out is now dooming you by clearing your whole field! So this card is bad... but just changing that won't help: you can send 2 cards from your deck to your Graveyard to send one card from your opponent's side of the field to their hand? So you get the effect of 2 "Foolish Burial" cards, and 1 "CED" all in a tetra-effect monster? Overdone, by all stretches. However, for its level and stats, the first and last effects are well-placed. (2 pts there.. lucky you)

 

Wording 5/10 -- Rewritten:

"When this card is Summoned, return all monsters on the field to their owners hands. Increase the ATK and DEF of this monster by 200 for each unoccupied Monster Card Zone on your side of the field. Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can send 2 cards from your Deck to your Graveyard to return 1 monster that your opponent controls to his/her hand. Once per turn, when your opponent declares an attack, you can send 1 monster you control to your Graveyard to negate the attack. When this card is sent to the Graveyard by battle, return the attacking monster to your opponent's hand."

 

Picture 10/10 -- absolutely top-notch. The three problems are a small text (unrealistic, but sometimes unpreventable. So very minor), the messed up ID Tag (there's no such thing as a modern "000" ID number), and the squished picture (which actually still works well). Those errors were made up for because you performed some pretty sick holo effects, as well as putting a gold sticker in the corner. I'd give you bonus points for that, but I don't think it's allowed.

Total: 27/40 (67.5%) you're a Slifer Red...

 

 

"Nightmarian" with "Malicious Soul"

Originality 7/10 -- easily identifiable with "Destiny Hero Malicious", whether you meant that to happen or not. This card doesn't have many different effects, those being a swarm Special Summoning tactic, and a small burn effect. Swarm is common, but I don't see a lot of small burn (mostly because it's pretty much useless).

 

Balance 5/10 -- against what the norm is, I actually find this card overpowered. After all, with all the new metagame-rampage in Special Summoning, this card is only providing more of that. Not only that, it also recycles itself. For example, you reveal this card in your hand, bringing 2 to the Graveyard. Then you Summon it, and it dies in battle. Next step puts that "Malicious Soul" in your deck, plus 2 on the field. And your opponent loses 500 LP. Then one of those "Souls" dies, your opponent loses 500 LP, and the second "Malicious Soul" goes back into your deck. Then your third dies, and at some point, you draw one again and the pattern restarts itself... not only that, if one of the 3 ever gets sent to the Graveyard, then another can bring it back by "dying" in battle. What you have is a minor burn + perfect circle card combination, on just 3 identical cards. OP. Through and through. However, this effect can be severely cut down by making the card semi-limited. So if this guy was semi-limited, I would rate the card 9/10. But you didn't include that, so the rating plummets.

 

Wording (OCG) 7/10-- Rewritten:

"You can reveal this card in your hand to send up to 2 "Malicious Souls" from your deck to the Graveyard. When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, inflict 500 points of Direct Damage to your opponent's Life Points. Then you can return this card to your deck to Special Summon up to 2 "Malicious Souls" from your Graveyard in face-up Attack Position."

 

Picture 7/10 -- not so hot. The actual picture of the card is very good (and the reason you're not at 5 or 6 out of 10), but your Set ID (or ID Tag) is completely off. The part before the hyphen is an acronym for some phrase, and the second is the number of your card (not in Roman Numerals.. this is America). You also made the card secret rare, even though it isn't really made for that (It's kind of weak) and has no holo effect (normally this wouldn't count against you, but "Primal Release" did it, so he/she set the standard in that respect.)

Total:26/40 (62.5%) you too....

 

Wow, a C average for both... okay, so "Primal Release" did win by a point, but in a system where 1 point is 2.5%, you really should be ahead by at least 3 or 4 to really be considered a shade better than someone else. I would like to say that my vote doesn't really count for anything -- I'm a neutral opinion (after all, you can't really have an opinion once you've seen both sides of this argument. :mrgreen: )

[Morgan LeFlay]

 

Wording (OCG) 7/10-- Rewritten:

"You can reveal this card in your hand to send up to 2 "Malicious Souls" from your deck to the Graveyard. When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard' date=' inflict 500 [b']points of Direct D[/b]amage to your opponent's Life Points. Then you can return this card to your deck to Special Summon up to 2 "Malicious Souls" from your Graveyard in face-up Attack Position."

 

Your OCG fixes are all bad.

 

-Deck is capitalized.

-points of Direct Damage is old OCG, we just say damage now.

-damage to your opponent's Life Points is also old OCG. We just say damage to your opponent now.

-Comma after then sounds better, though some cards go either way.

-Again, Deck is capitalized.

-face-up is not needed, it's implied.

[Nightmarian]

Noob Hunter - Malicious and my card are miles away..malicious is one of strongest cards in TCG and have much diff effect and purpse too..it would be better that u identify my card with Giant Germ kinda cards...

Like Chaosgodkarl explained u made tons of wording errors..^^

For balancing comment - DARK and Zombie decks have much more other options then use this card..it have it purposes but it is not broken at all..and you cannot return them all to your deck , if there is no "Malicious Soul" in your Graveyard and "Malicious Soul" on your side of the field is destroyed as result of battle YOU CANNOT RETURN IT TO YOUR DECK!!!!

For Secret Rare comment - i have seen many Konami cards that are Secret Rare and they are not broken .. lot of them is useless actually, if u want i can give u a list...

 

And i am suprised u people don't like my picture (if we ignore part that i didn't holo it)...i have try that it looks like acard from TCG , that style, while Primal Releases picture is anime and Konami doesn't have a single picture with style like that ... but ok, i guess i need to learn what loves community ^^

[Flavour]

Wow...Primal getting beaten by a 2 star...

 

I vote Primal.

[Nightmarian]

lol this is interesting

[Golden Chaos]

Wow...Primal getting beaten by a 2 star...

 

I vote Primal.

 

Are you talking honestly?!

You're voting Primal because he has more Stars, and you didn't even mention your voting results!!

I guess your vote won't be even used, I feel it's completely biased!

[Monkey]

Chill out mond... Anybody who doesn't use the rubric will have his vote void

[fortycal86]

Nightmarian

Creativity /10

Balance /7

Wording(OCG) /10

Picture /10

Total-36

 

Balance-Everything else is excellent, except the balance. The only reason I gave you a 7 is because its possible for a infinite loop. Now its fine but, it could turn into a broken combo someday.

 

Primal Release

Creativity /0

Balance /0

Wording(OCG) /10

Picture /10

Total-20

 

Creativity & Balance-Everything else is excellent, except the creativity and balance. This card is extremely BROKEN. Its not creative if the effect is that BROKEN in my opinion. Clearer the field of all monsters, gain 200 attack and send any 2 cards from your Deck to your Graveyard. That has BROKEN written all over it. Honestly this is one of the most broken cards I have ever seen. I'm sorry but, I have to give you a zero.

[Flavour]

Wow...Primal getting beaten by a 2 star...

 

I vote Primal.

 

Are you talking honestly?!

You're voting Primal because he has more Stars' date=' and you didn't even mention your voting results!!

I guess your vote won't be even used, I feel it's completely biased!

[/quote']

 

Hmm. So just because I voted, I insult the 2 star.

 

NOT. I honestly think his is better.

[Von Csent]

Both cards are heavy DAD abuse. They are both broken, and I will explain below.

 

Nightmarian:

 

Creativity: 7/10 You have made an over-powered Thunder Dragon style card, with a twist.

Balance: 5/10 You have a possible deck loop that easy sends DARK monsters to the graveyard.

Wording(OCG): 10/10 The only thing that I really like.

Picture: 7/10 Not special, but better then Primal's.

Total: 29/40

 

Primal Release:

 

Creativity: 8/10 The effect is certainly interesting.

Balance: 4/10 There is some quirky stuff going on here. Two Foolish Burials each turn is bad. For the cost of bouncing an opponent's monster is worse. The very first effect is not bad though.

Wording(OCG): 7/10 Would be perfect, but missing the "Special" is inexcusable. Look at the first print of Ocean Dragon Lord - Neo-Daedalus.

Picture: 6/10 Yugioh has used anime-syle before, but this is too anime-ish. The picture is squished, and the holo is only noticed if you are told that there is one.

Total: 25/40

 

Both are bad, but Nightmarian's is on a slightly lesser scale.