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[Dark]

The title will make sense soon enough.

 

Sports people do no work (they do work, obviously, but nothing beneficial) and make the most money, more than doctors and lawyers.

 

Janitors and garbagemen do the most work, and get paid an average of $20,000 USD, and that's on the medium-high side.

 

Should janitors get paid more and sports people get paid less.

 

I say yes.

[Yasu]

Sports people die young D:

[Dark]

Meh. So?

 

Janitors peoples do more work and get paid less. It's not fair. =\

 

Also, most of the sports peoples are idiots anyways.

[CrabHelmet]

You have to bear in mind the levels of skill involved. Janitors and doctors are both necessary, but whereas anyone can become a janitor at any time, it takes a very intelligent individual and years of study to become a doctor - thus, whereas a janitor may do more physical work on any randomly selected day, it is much harder to be a doctor.

[Lazer Yoshi]

To Dark - But you gotta remember, these people in Sports play for Big Companies: playing for Big Companies = Big Amounts of Money.

Janitors do a lot of work, but not too many recognize it. You don't see them on TV and in Magazines for doing their job.

Yes, Janitors, ETC, should be paid a bit more.

[Yasu]

Meh... If you want to be someone in life you have to put effort on it, or have parents with influences and money.

[Frlf]

Meh... If you want to be someone in life you should have parents with influences and money.

Fixed for the greater truth.

 

And everyone should be payed more, but then people will raise prices to balance them. Rite?

 

And what Crab said.

You don't need to go to college to be a Janitor.

You need to pay a good college and spend years to be a good doctor ;).

[Dark]

You have to bear in mind the levels of skill involved. Janitors and doctors are both necessary' date=' but whereas anyone can become a janitor at any time, it takes a very intelligent individual and years of study to become a doctor - thus, whereas a janitor may do more physical work on any randomly selected day, it is much harder to be a doctor.

[/quote']

 

This is true, but without janitors we would pretty much have to do work ourself. We are used to other people doing our work.

 

Janitors have a harder job than sports players do, because we don't need sports players. It's just an entertainment craze.

 

To Dark - But you gotta remember' date=' these people in Sports play for Big Companies: playing for Big Companies = Big Amounts of Money.

Janitors do a lot of work, but not too many recognize it. You don't see them on TV and in Magazines for doing their job.

Yes, Janitors, ETC, should be paid a bit more.

[/quote']

 

So the more famous you are, the more money you get, despite any effort you put into it?

 

So I can be on the cover of Playboy magazine and make a million dollars?

 

Or I can be a nobel prize winner, but have no one know me and make minimum wage?

[OhHerro]

Meh. So?

 

Janitors peoples do more work and get paid less. It's not fair. =\

 

Also' date=' most of the sports peoples are idiots anyways.

[/quote']

 

A guy who slacked off his entire life could be a janitor. A guy with an IQ of 12 could be a janitor. Any person off the street could be a janitor.

 

Sports peoples, more commonly known as ATHLETES, have worked hard their entire lives at what they do, and so they are now being rewarded.

 

I also loved how you said most athletes are idiots. You're not allowed into the NBA without having gone through college for at least a year now. There are far more educated athletes than there are educated athletes.

 

Next time, you might want to give these things a bit of thought.

[Dark]

Do athletes do anything that help us at all?

[Frlf]

Do athletes do anything that help us at all?

 

Does YCM help us at all?

Does music helps us at all?

Does most of the internet help us at all?

Does porn help us at all?

 

Its called entertainment.

[Dark]

Do athletes do anything that help us at all?

 

Does YCM help us at all?

 

Nope.

 

Does music helps us at all?

 

Nope.

 

Does most of the internet help us at all?

 

Information from search engines.

 

Does porn help us at all?

 

Well... no.

 

Its called entertainment.

 

And why should people involved in entertainment make more than people who have crappy jobs and actually do our dirty work for us?

[Frlf]

Do athletes do anything that help us at all?

 

Does YCM help us at all?

 

Nope.

 

Does music helps us at all?

 

Nope.

 

Does most of the internet help us at all?

 

Information from search engines.

Most of the internet is forums and porn.

 

 

Does porn help us at all?

 

Well... no.

 

Its called entertainment.

 

And why should people involved in entertainment make more than people who have crappy jobs and actually do our dirty work for us?

I don't know.

Thats how we roll.

[Dark]

Most of it, but there is a small portion that is actually used for SOMETHING.

 

Back on topic: do we really see entertainment as better than simple but NEEDED (CAPS for emphasis) jobs?

[LiAM]

If i got paid millions to kick a ball around, I would so go for it.

 

I think footballers should recieve huge taxes so it can fund hospitals and the society.

[Dark]

If i got paid millions to kick a ball around' date=' I would so go for it.

 

I think footballers should recieve huge taxes so it can fund hospitals and the society.

[/quote']

 

I think that would be a good idea, to balance it out. And the poor side of the world would get tax relief.

[CrabHelmet]

You have to bear in mind the levels of skill involved. Janitors and doctors are both necessary' date=' but whereas anyone can become a janitor at any time, it takes a very intelligent individual and years of study to become a doctor - thus, whereas a janitor may do more physical work on any randomly selected day, it is much harder to be a doctor.

[/quote']

 

This is true, but without janitors we would pretty much have to do work ourself.

 

Yes. And without doctors, we'd sicken and die.

 

We are used to other people doing our work.

 

And there is nothing wrong with that. From the moment our distant ancestors first formed groups with other members of their species' date=' we have leaned upon one another for mutual benefit. Specialization makes this obvious; rather than have everyone work alone and do a rather poor job of sweeping their floors and healing themselves, it is better for one person to heal everyone excellently and for another to be a janitorial expert. In the end, everybody wins.

 

Janitors have a harder job than sports players do, because we don't need sports players.

 

The word "because" does not mean what you think it means. Perhaps the phrase you were looking for was "Oh, and on a related note that does not directly follow from my previous statement but which also contributes to my overall argument"?

 

So the more famous you are' date=' the more money you get, despite any effort you put into it?

[/quote']

 

It can easily be said that there are more non-famous people in the world than there are famous people. Law of Supply takes effect.

 

Also, I love how you inherently assume that athletes spent their whole lives lying around neglecting their studies and eating potato chips before they were magically placed in a job that supposedly takes no effort.

 

So I can be on the cover of Playboy magazine and make a million dollars?

 

People pay minimum money to take advantage of qualities they can find anywhere' date=' such as a working pair of hands. They pay large amounts of money for rarer qualities. If one appears on a magazine cover, one has such a quality. That quality is not necessarily related to effort - in your example, beauty is likely the quality in question - but if that quality is desired and difficult to find, then large amounts of money will be paid.

 

Or I can be a nobel prize winner, but have no one know me and make minimum wage?

 

Nobel prize winners are at the very least well-known within their own field, and are eagerly sought after by those seeking to make use of their expertise. Your argument here seems very poorly thought out.

 

And why should people involved in entertainment make more than people who have crappy jobs and actually do our dirty work for us?

 

1) Because their qualities are rarer (and' date=' despite your delusions, do require effort to attain).

 

2) Because they entertain a wide range of people, whereas a janitor only helps those within his or her building.

 

3) Because the public allows entertainment to be more profitable on a per-employee basis than janitorial services will ever be.

 

Back on topic: do we really see entertainment as better than simple but NEEDED (CAPS for emphasis) jobs?

 

See above.

 

I think footballers should recieve huge taxes so it can fund hospitals and the society.

 

Increased tax rates for the wealthy in general is nothing more than the sensible course.

[Doomboi]

You are correct. Sports themselves are fail (no offence to anyone). For instance, sometimes when a soccer match ends here in Turkey, the two teams' fans fight to the death. Janitors however, are not fail [/thread]

[Pikachu]

Basically, it's all just Job Demanding.

 

So for example, sports players. They have worked hard in their first few years to try and be the best footballers in the world. Their fame is then so big they don't even have to continue their sport (eg. David Beckham) and can earn millions. And you have to remember: there are only a few hundred of these famous and high-earning sport players. It's like a car, the rarer it is the more expensive it is.

 

But for janitors, it's a whole different story. Janitors and garbage collectors have three factors that make them have that job:

 

- They did poorly in school, meaning that they deserve it.

- Their families are poor or the person didn't want to go to school, meaning lack of basic knowledge.

- They just wanted to do it, or they had no choice.

 

To make it more obvious, janitors are in high demand, so there are plenty of them. If they are all paid with a high salary, then the whole country or economy could decline. Also remember, there are MILLIONS of these kind of people around the world, so giving them all a good income would be a waste. Besides, why should they get high incomes when they don't deserve it?

 

In conclusion, your argument is wrong. Good day.

[fox trot]

i take it that you like pokimon you do know that theres a pokimon maker 2

:)

8)

[Dark]

Quoting Crab right now, don't really feel like putting the whole post in a spoiler.

 

You are saying it's supply and demand, correct? We have few people who can be competent at playing a game and providing us entertainment, we are so used to entertainment many people have to have it. On the other hand, we have millions of people who can become a janitor with no prior "education", and the demand for janitors is low because of the amount of people who want to become janitors are high.

 

So it's simple stock market crap.

 

High Supply + Low Demand = -Prices

Low Supply + High Demand = +Prices

 

But what I was asking is why do we think that entertainment > garbage cleaning duties? And this does not go back into supply and demand because I am talking about entertainment as a whole and cleaning stuff as a whole. Cleaning stuff is obviously the more important thing to us right now. Having no entertainment doesn't mean we will die.

 

Basically' date=' it's all just Job Demanding.

 

So for example, sports players. They have worked hard in their first few years to try and be the best footballers in the world. Their fame is then so big they don't even have to continue their sport (eg. David Beckham) and can earn millions. And you have to remember: there are only a few hundred of these famous and high-earning sport players. It's like a car, the rarer it is the more expensive it is.

 

But for janitors, it's a whole different story. Janitors and garbage collectors have three factors that make them have that job:

 

- They did poorly in school, meaning that they deserve it.

- Their families are poor or the person didn't want to go to school, meaning lack of basic knowledge.

- They just wanted to do it, or they had no choice.

 

To make it more obvious, janitors are in high demand, so there are plenty of them. If they are all paid with a high salary, then the whole country or economy could decline. Also remember, there are MILLIONS of these kind of people around the world, so giving them all a good income would be a waste. Besides, why should they get high incomes when they don't deserve it?

 

In conclusion, your argument is wrong. Good day.

[/quote']

 

Pretty much what I got from Crab. I get that part now.

 

But read what I said above.

 

i take it that you like pokimon you do know that theres a pokimon maker 2

:)

8)

 

OHAI SPAMMER. GTFO

[Mehmani]

Sports people die young D:

 

Steroids.

Meh. So?

 

Janitors peoples do more work and get paid less. It's not fair. =\

 

Also' date=' most of the sports peoples are idiots anyways.

[/quote']

 

But it takes years of training (6-7) to be a Doctor, 8-9 to be a Vet and 10 to be a Psychologist (that's 1 for a Degree, 3 for a PHD and 6 for Medical School). Anyone could be a Janitor. Sports people are born with some sort of talent anyway, and a lot of them (the English National Football Team) give their wages to charity (they get payed £20,000 per International Game, and they give that all to charity). I take it that American sportspeople are twits.

[~Shore]

Teachers should be payed more. Then my parents would be able to buy more shiz :P

 

Also the title- Greater than is the same as less than, and less than is changed to greater than. I suppose that refers to the relative relationship between job skill, job need, and job pay.

[OhHerro]

You are correct. Sports themselves are fail (no offence to anyone). For instance' date=' sometimes when a soccer match ends here in Turkey, the two teams' fans fight to the death. Janitors however, are not fail [/thread']

 

You're an idiot.

 

But for janitors' date=' it's a whole different story. Janitors and garbage collectors have three factors that make them have that job:

 

- They did poorly in school, meaning that they deserve it.

- Their families are poor or the person didn't want to go to school, meaning lack of basic knowledge.

- They just wanted to do it, or they had no choice.

[/quote']

 

There are also those who simply need a job to pay for school or the like...

 

Cleaning stuff is obviously the more important thing to us right now. Having no entertainment doesn't mean we will die.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb here then.

 

Stop paying for internet/television services' date=' and instead give the janitor at your school a couple hundred dollars each month. If you are unable to do this, then you clearly see our side of the argument.

 

Sports people die young D:

 

Steroids.

 

lolno. Not all athletes take steroids... Furthermore' date=' not all athletes die young.

 

 

I take it that American sportspeople are twits.

 

Why would you say that? Don't be an ass if you don't know sheet.

 

Teachers should be payed more. Then my parents would be able to buy more shiz :P

 

"Payed" is not a word.

 

Teachers are salaried by the government. If their pay went up, the government would have to compensate by paying every other government employee they had. In our current state, I can't see this happening anytime soon. Sorry :(

[~Shore]

My parents work at a private school =D

Also, sorry for the spelling error. I always mess up on that one.