Atheism: Just Another Religion

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

It's as irrationally absolutist as any religion.

 

Discuss.

[TheHuaHauh]

I agree, atheism is just another religion. If evolution is a theory, than God can be treated as a theory as well. Both evolutionism and both creationism show a common interest; finding the origins of life and the universe. Many people deny this, but if you truly do not have a religion, than you are simply a secularist; you do not care if creationism is real or if evolution is real, you just live out your life.

[PrometheusMFD]

Atheism doesn't necessarily include Darwinism. Atheism is a group that denounces the existence of a higher power of any kind. I think of it as narcissism at its purest more than a full fledged religeon

[Mister Sir]

Atheism has traits in common with Religions of the world in the fact that they are all belief systems.

 

[spoiler=Atheism]a⋅the⋅ism

–noun

1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.

2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

 

 

 

[spoiler=Religion]re⋅li⋅gion

–noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

 

 

They are both similar in that aspect. Both rely on the people to decide for themselves to find whichever beliefs they chose to follow.

[PrometheusMFD]

Similar traits does not mean they are the same, though. A turtle and a tortoise have similar traits, but are two different things.

 

Atheism stems from a fear of not being at the "top" of everything. Can't be at the top if a God is in the way, can you? It is narcissism.

[TheHuaHauh]

A turtle and a tortoise are both reptiles, as are snakes, lizards, etc. You can compare this to religion with "reptiles" being religion in general and the individual reptiles being separate religions.

[Mister Sir]

Similar traits does not mean they are the same' date=' though. A turtle and a tortoise have similar traits, but are two different things.

 

Atheism stems from a fear of not being at the "top" of everything. Can't be at the top if a God is in the way, can you? It is narcissism.

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You say potato...

[PrometheusMFD]

Turtles and tortoises are in the Chelonia group.

And I was using it to emphasize my point on how two thing with similar traits can be different things.

[TheHuaHauh]

Turtles and tortoises are in the Chelonia group.

And I was using it to emphasize my point on how two thing with similar traits can be different things.

Good to know, I was objecting your point by using the same thing to emphasize my own.

[Mister Sir]

In my original post, Prometheus, I wasn't saying they were same. I was simply showing how they were similar.

[Careless Whisper]

...if you truly do not have a religion' date=' than you are simply a secularist; you do not care if creationism is real or if evolution is real, you just live out your life.[/b']

 

A better term for this is "Agnostic." I believe that agnostics, (I speak for them because I am one) are of the few reasonable types of people. They take in the possibility that a higher being can either be real or fake. Although, most agnostics have different reasons for being what they are. My reason is because I have asked many of my Christian and Atheist friends this exact question.

"Why should we even care what made the Universe? What are we to gain by finding out?" I still have gotton no answer that can convince me if there really is a higher power, or if the belief of one is a hoax.

[TheHuaHauh]

...if you truly do not have a religion' date=' than you are simply a secularist; you do not care if creationism is real or if evolution is real, you just live out your life.[/b']

 

A better term for this is "Agnostic." I believe that agnostics, (I speak for them because I am one) are of the few reasonable types of people. They take in the possibility that a higher being can either be real or fake. Although, most agnostics have different reasons for being what they are. My reason is because I have asked many of my Christian and Atheist friends this exact question.

"Why should we even care what made the Universe? What are we to gain by finding out?" I still have gotton no answer that can convince me if there really is a higher power, or if the belief of one is a hoax.

Yes, this is one type of reasoning I respect. Although that you do not have an opinion it never harms your better judgment. I have noticed that many Agnostics are not judgmental and are respectful of all views.

[HORUS]

No. No. Absolutely no. A true atheist does not just believe that there is no God, he KNOWS there is no God. It's not a belief, it's the truth.

[TheHuaHauh]

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No. No. Absolutely no. A true atheist does not just believe that there is no God' date=' he KNOWS there is no God. It's not a belief, it's the truth.

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Mhmm, typical Atheist Know-It-All. They can go around flashing their ideas and beliefs, laughing at creationists along the way, but if creationists did that it would be offensive.

[HORUS]

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No. No. Absolutely no. A true atheist does not just believe that there is no God' date=' he KNOWS there is no God. It's not a belief, it's the truth.

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Mhmm, typical Atheist Know-It-All. They can go around flashing their ideas and beliefs, laughing at creationists along the way, but if creationists did that it would be offensive.

 

Atheists like myself like to laugh at creationists because they take an obviously fallible and illogical route through life.

 

An evangelical Christian would not accept that God does not exist, even if absolute infallible proof were given to them. A hardcore atheist (like I described in my first post) would accept God's existence if given absolute proof of his existence. This is because the Christian survives on belief, whereas the atheist, scientist, intellectual, rationalist relies on logic to make decisions and form philosophies.

 

That is the difference between atheists and creationists, between the rational and the irrational.

[TheHuaHauh]

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No. No. Absolutely no. A true atheist does not just believe that there is no God' date=' he KNOWS there is no God. It's not a belief, it's the truth.

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Mhmm, typical Atheist Know-It-All. They can go around flashing their ideas and beliefs, laughing at creationists along the way, but if creationists did that it would be offensive.

 

Atheists like myself like to laugh at creationists because they take an obviously fallible and illogical route through life.

 

An evangelical Christian would not accept that God does not exist, even if absolute infallible proof were given to them. A hardcore atheist (like I described in my first post) would accept God's existence if given absolute proof of his existence. This is because the Christian survives on belief, whereas the atheist, scientist, intellectual, rationalist relies on logic to make decisions and form philosophies.

 

That is the difference between atheists and creationists, between the rational and the irrational.

By which means could the existence of a Creator be disproven, though? This is why Creationists are so straight forward and hopeful through life, they can't be proved wrong.

[Willieh]

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No. No. Absolutely no. A true atheist does not just believe that there is no God' date=' he KNOWS there is no God. It's not a belief, it's the truth.

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Mhmm, typical Atheist Know-It-All. They can go around flashing their ideas and beliefs, laughing at creationists along the way, but if creationists did that it would be offensive.

 

Atheists like myself like to laugh at creationists because they take an obviously fallible and illogical route through life.

 

An evangelical Christian would not accept that God does not exist, even if absolute infallible proof were given to them. A hardcore atheist (like I described in my first post) would accept God's existence if given absolute proof of his existence. This is because the Christian survives on belief, whereas the atheist, scientist, intellectual, rationalist relies on logic to make decisions and form philosophies.

 

That is the difference between atheists and creationists, between the rational and the irrational.

By which means could the existence of a Creator be disproven, though? This is why Creationists are so straight forward and hopeful through life, they can't be proved wrong.

 

The only way a creator can be proven is by saying there is no proof that he doesn't exist. =/

 

Which could apply to anything.

 

I don't get the big deal. Does it really matter who's right when your dead?

[TheHuaHauh]

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No. No. Absolutely no. A true atheist does not just believe that there is no God' date=' he KNOWS there is no God. It's not a belief, it's the truth.

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Mhmm, typical Atheist Know-It-All. They can go around flashing their ideas and beliefs, laughing at creationists along the way, but if creationists did that it would be offensive.

 

Atheists like myself like to laugh at creationists because they take an obviously fallible and illogical route through life.

 

An evangelical Christian would not accept that God does not exist, even if absolute infallible proof were given to them. A hardcore atheist (like I described in my first post) would accept God's existence if given absolute proof of his existence. This is because the Christian survives on belief, whereas the atheist, scientist, intellectual, rationalist relies on logic to make decisions and form philosophies.

 

That is the difference between atheists and creationists, between the rational and the irrational.

By which means could the existence of a Creator be disproven, though? This is why Creationists are so straight forward and hopeful through life, they can't be proved wrong.

 

The only way a creator can be proven is by saying there is no proof that he doesn't exist. =/

 

Which could apply to anything.

 

I don't get the big deal. Does it really matter who's right when your dead?

If there is a God, yes. If there isn't, lol no.

[evilhorus]

Is there proof god dosen't exist? Is there proof he does exist? We wont really know, but we can believe he does, or does not. Im not going to go all christy on you guys, so you can come out of your hiding places now.. . . . . . . .. ... . ..

[TheHuaHauh]

In truth, God can only be proved as a Theory, it saddens me, as I am a Christian, but it is true. If we are to treat Evolution as a Theory and God as a Theory than we are to treat them both as religions. Religion is nothing but another Theory on our origins. Everyone holds different opinions on which one they think is true, but none, for this moment, can be proven.

[Prince Poison]

In truth' date=' God can only be proved as a Theory, it saddens me, as I am a Christian, but it is true. If we are to treat Evolution as a Theory and God as a Theory than we are to treat them both as religions. Religion is nothing but another Theory on our origins. Everyone holds different opinions on which one they think is true, but none, for this moment, can be proven.

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WRONG

Religion is nothing more than a tool to manipulate the masses and to justify innocent deaths.

[bury the year]

The only way a creator can be proven is by saying there is no proof that he doesn't exist. =/

 

Which could apply to anything.

 

I don't get the big deal. Does it really matter who's right when your dead?

 

I think Willieh gets it. This is pretty much my stance on life, or death, rather. Both religion and atheism stems from a fear of what happens after death; it's a natural human reaction, and that's how we cope with it.

 

(Besides, I'm an optimistic reincarnationist. :/)

[Juuzou]

atheists have flaws in the way they think as well. for instance, how was life created? did it just fall out of the sky? you probably wouldn't believe that. and you might go saying "It stemmed from single celled organisms," well, how were those organisms created to move on their own? did rocks suddenly gain life? there has to be something creating life on or outside of the earth, even if it isn't a human looking god, but a huge life force, or a burrito in the sky for all i care.

 

atheists, i would love for you to explain your thought pattern on this.

[TheHuaHauh]

atheists have flaws in the way they think as well. for instance' date=' how was life created? did it just fall out of the sky? you probably wouldn't believe that. and you might go saying "It stemmed from single celled organisms," well, how were those organisms created to move on their own? did rocks suddenly gain life? there has to be [i']something[/i] creating life on or outside of the earth, even if it isn't a human looking god, but a huge life force, or a burrito in the sky for all i care.

 

atheists, i would love for you to explain your thought pattern on this.

Lol, well, according to a video I saw on a BBC Documentary that we were formed on the back of crystals that hit the light which reflected from the water, creating protocells... In other words, we came from an underwater crystal ball.

[Juuzou]

shiny water created life O.o