Alordzynix Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 ' pid='2498867' dateline='1246827883']The importance of Mars is absolutely irrelevant. It isn't irrelevant because you said that the earth is far more important than us. Mars is what the earth would become like if there wasn't live on earth ' pid='2498867' dateline='1246827883']The problem at hand is that we as humans learned how to precipitate mass death before we learned to control ourselves.The thing Humans have killed the most will most likely always be humans. What is your problem with that if you hate Humans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 ' pid='2498867' dateline='1246827883']The importance of Mars is absolutely irrelevant. It isn't irrelevant because you said that the earth is far more important than us. Mars is what the earth would become like if there wasn't live on earth ' pid='2498867' dateline='1246827883']The problem at hand is that we as humans learned how to precipitate mass death before we learned to control ourselves.The thing Humans have killed the most will most likely always be humans. What is your problem with that if you hate Humans? 1. Mars is irrelevant because it supports no life. Earth supports life other than humans. 2. Humans have also caused the extinctions of thousands upon thousands of species of animals/insects/plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Horus, you do realise there is no point in trying to reason with these egotistic closed-minded fools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Horus' date=' you do realise there is no point in trying to reason with these egotistic closed-minded fools?[/quote'] I couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Horus' date=' you do realise there is no point in trying to reason with these egotistic closed-minded fools?[/quote'] I couldn't have said it better myself. Yeah, I'm just trying to keep myself entertained. I've always enjoyed a good lol session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alordzynix Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 ' pid='2498955' dateline='1246828461']' pid='2498867' dateline='1246827883']The importance of Mars is absolutely irrelevant. It isn't irrelevant because you said that the earth is far more important than us. Mars is what the earth would become like if there wasn't live on earth ' pid='2498867' dateline='1246827883']The problem at hand is that we as humans learned how to precipitate mass death before we learned to control ourselves.The thing Humans have killed the most will most likely always be humans. What is your problem with that if you hate Humans? 1. Mars is irrelevant because it supports no life ANYMORE!. Earth supports life other than humans. ' pid='2498955' dateline='1246828461']2. Humans have also caused the extinctions of thousands upon thousands of species of animals/insects/plants.And you believe that if it weren't for us' date=' all species that once lived on this earth would still be there? A happy but childish taught. Horus, you do realise there is no point in trying to reason with these egotistic closed-minded fools?I do not agree with you and most likely never will on this matter but the same can be said to you so wouldn't that make you closed-minded as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 ' pid='2498955' dateline='1246828461']' pid='2498867' dateline='1246827883']The importance of Mars is absolutely irrelevant. It isn't irrelevant because you said that the earth is far more important than us. Mars is what the earth would become like if there wasn't live on earth ' pid='2498867' dateline='1246827883']The problem at hand is that we as humans learned how to precipitate mass death before we learned to control ourselves.The thing Humans have killed the most will most likely always be humans. What is your problem with that if you hate Humans? 1. Mars is irrelevant because it supports no life ANYMORE!. Earth supports life other than humans. ' pid='2498955' dateline='1246828461']2. Humans have also caused the extinctions of thousands upon thousands of species of animals/insects/plants.And you believe that if it weren't for us' date=' all species that once lived on this earth would still be there? A happy but childish taught. Horus, you do realise there is no point in trying to reason with these egotistic closed-minded fools?I do not agree with you and most likely never will on this matter but the same can be said to you so wouldn't that make you closed-minded as well? 1. If it weren't for us, there would be a hell of a lot more species. A childish taught, eh? 2. No, it wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alordzynix Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 ' pid='2499055' dateline='1246829218']1. If it weren't for us' date=' there would be a hell of a lot more species. A childish [b']taught[/b], eh?I make some mistakes in the English languages because I'm a dutch dyslectic and, sheet happens. at 2. That was a rhetorical question. If 2 sides do not agree with each other they are both equally thickheaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Hrous beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid. Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Theres no point in arguing about something we cannot change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Theres no point in arguing about something we cannot change. Well Sid, I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 It does pass the time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2498641' dateline='1246826555']2. The earth is more important than we are. Any specific reason why you hold this belief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dismal Euphony Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 tl;dr But, the thread title is an awesome song by Decapitated... So, awesome post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2498641' dateline='1246826555']2. The earth is more important than we are. Any specific reason why you hold this belief? Earth houses millions of organisms. Granted' date=' by a nihilist point of view, nothing is important, but I say this for the sake of argument. tl;dr But, the thread title is an awesome song by Decapitated... So, awesome post. Decapitated's Nihility album was my inspiration to write this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Negro, people are animals just like any other creature. All of our actions are natural considering the fact that we are animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Negro' date=' people are animals just like any other creature. All of our actions are natural considering the fact that we are animals.[/quote'] Yes, but the fact that we kill other creatures for fun separates us from other animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2502004' dateline='1246864829']Negro' date=' people are animals just like any other creature. All of our actions are natural considering the fact that we are animals.[/quote'] Yes, but the fact that we kill other creatures for fun separates us from other animals. No it doesn't. The thing that separates us from other animals is a free mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Our free mind enables us to kill for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2502012' dateline='1246865051']Our free mind enables us to kill for fun. What makes killing wrong? There are two answers to this question: The Concept of Justice, and The Subjective Opinions of Power. If you can think of any others to justify your answer, feel free to, but it is a fact of the matter that morality, even that so basic, derives solely from influence; it isn't natural to have even a bit of moral rationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2502012' dateline='1246865051']Our free mind enables us to kill for fun. Hmmm... It's kind of hard to explain what I'm thinking. Maybe that's because it's stupid. Idk. But, what I'm kind of getting at is that people are no different than ants in the fact that they strive to achieve a set goal in life. The only difference is that people aren't limited to a certain goal determined by nature. In the long run, our creations are just as natural as any other animals creations and our activity is just as natural as any other creatures. It's just our free thought that separates us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2502012' dateline='1246865051']Our free mind enables us to kill for fun. Hmmm... It's kind of hard to explain what I'm thinking. Maybe that's because it's stupid. Idk. But' date=' what I'm kind of getting at is that people are no different than ants in the fact that they strive to achieve a set goal in life. The only difference is that people aren't limited to a certain goal determined by nature. In the long run, our creations are just as natural as any other animals creations and our activity is just as natural as any other creatures. It's just our free thought that separates us.[/quote'] We don't have "Free Thought," we're just as much bound to fate as ant's are. What we have is complicated thought, "Open Thought" if you would. We can contemplate objects and concepts and comprehend the natural order of these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2502012' dateline='1246865051']Our free mind enables us to kill for fun. Hmmm... It's kind of hard to explain what I'm thinking. Maybe that's because it's stupid. Idk. But' date=' what I'm kind of getting at is that people are no different than ants in the fact that they strive to achieve a set goal in life. The only difference is that people aren't limited to a certain goal determined by nature. In the long run, our creations are just as natural as any other animals creations and our activity is just as natural as any other creatures. It's just our free thought that separates us.[/quote'] We don't have "Free Thought," we're just as much bound to fate as ants are. What we have is complicated thought, "Open Thought" if you would. We can contemplate objects and concepts and comprehend the natural order of these things. We have free thought and predetermined decisions. We aren't bound to nature like ants are. If free will didn't exist there would be no individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Being stronger and more intelligent than a mosquito seems to make me superior to it. Not to mention humankind's ability to create music' date=' art, works of fiction, tools, as well as complex etiquette for interacting with one another in a society.[/quote']What is art, music's and literatures importance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ' pid='2502012' dateline='1246865051']Our free mind enables us to kill for fun. Hmmm... It's kind of hard to explain what I'm thinking. Maybe that's because it's stupid. Idk. But' date=' what I'm kind of getting at is that people are no different than ants in the fact that they strive to achieve a set goal in life. The only difference is that people aren't limited to a certain goal determined by nature. In the long run, our creations are just as natural as any other animals creations and our activity is just as natural as any other creatures. It's just our free thought that separates us.[/quote'] We don't have "Free Thought," we're just as much bound to fate as ants are. What we have is complicated thought, "Open Thought" if you would. We can contemplate objects and concepts and comprehend the natural order of these things. We have free thought and predetermined decisions. We aren't bound to nature like ants are. If free will didn't exist there would be no individual. Flawed argument. Our individuality is based on the fact that we exist and make decisions, not on the premise that these decisions are actually free from fate. Atomic particles and energy make up our existence, these particles and energy react based on the other particles and energy surrounding them, and they thus change based on the change of other particles around them, directly from the changes of other particles around them. There is no randomness, there is no universal fallout point, so everything happens based on what happens around it. We're just molecular structures; albeit thinking structures, but we are of that nature, we are just as bound to fate as an asteroid flying through deep space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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