Felix Culpa Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Well, from a neutral standpoint on religion I must say that it is frivolous debating whether or not that is on a forum, but that is not what this thread is about. I do not dislike atheists, despite the common knowledge that I debate constantly with HORUS, but for a different reason than that. I have plenty of atheists friends, and I have no reason to dislike them. ((BTW, the reason HORUS and I clash constantly is because we are on the same level of intellectuality.)) However, I dislike anyone who discharges the books of the Bible as false is obviously a nit-picking anti-theist. Anti-theism is basing your beliefs on your "knowledge" that the Bible is false. As plainly stated in an earlier thread, the Bible is treated as a historical reference in many cases. It is fact that Jacob was traded away to Egypt, and his descendents escape through a parting in the Red Sea, however this parting was natural and not a work of some divine power. Though also one last point... Hardcore theists are almost as annoying to me as hardcore anti-theists. It's annoying seeing these people preach to you on the streets when you are just trying to go to Starbucks (I don't drink coffee.) or wherever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 So what's the discussion here? And you don't mention agnostics anywhere in the body of your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 You are right. Better change the title. I meant to fit it in, but didn't really come. Guess its more of a neutral standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 agnosticism FTW! anyways, the bible is historical fiction at some points, and totally fictional at others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 agnosticism FTW! anyways' date=' the bible is historical fiction at some points, and totally fictional at others.[/quote'] Um...which parts are the 'historical fiction' parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Arcane you can't say that the Bible is historical fiction. It is based on factual events from around the time of circa 1500 B.C. - 39 A.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Arcane you can't say that the Bible is historical fiction. It is based on factual events from around the time of circa 1500 B.C. - 39 A.D. I'm pretty sure it's all made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 http://bibleprobe.com/exodus.htm Just one book though... Not all are true to the bones, but honestly you can't discharge belief in history at just a glance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Exodus is the only part I consider possible (apart from the turning the river into blood and parting the sea). They may have just left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Well with parting the sea, the tide reveals an underwater land bridge, so it is very possible that the sea parted if Moses had a chance to view the tide previously. Most of the new testament is hocu-pocus miracles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Exodus is the only part I consider possible (apart from the turning the river into blood and parting the sea). They may have just left.The river turning to "blood" is in a way possible. If memory serves I watched a show on the History channel that said something about red algea and that is some how posioned the water. Here' date=' this goes more into it.http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/plague.html Also the parting or the Red Sea is also possible, just iust it isn't the red sea that parted.It is commonly suggested that the designation “Red Sea” (yam sup) should be rendered “Sea of Reeds.” Supposedly then, the place at which Israel left Egypt was but a “marshy” area that was dried out by a temporary wind. This view is argued upon the supposition that the Hebrew term sup is related to an Egyptian word meaning “reed.” It is also possible, however, that sup may relate to the Hebrew term sop, which signifies “end” or “conclusion” (of the earth), and thus could refer simply to several connected bodies of water extending southward from Palestine and Arabia. The bible does has historical fact behind it, it's just the writers easily could have made things appear more grand. Look at the flood of Noah. That is based on a REAL event where a lot of Middle East (or at least that general area) was hit by a massive flood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Exodus is the only part I consider possible (apart from the turning the river into blood and parting the sea). They may have just left.The river turning to "blood" is in a way possible. If memory serves I watched a show on the History channel that said something about red algea and that is some how posioned the water. Well, Flame, I must say that the red algae is posssible but there is also a high iron content, which makes things appear red, (especially when in water). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 FACT: Noah can gather two of every single animal species in the world in a short amount of time and last through a flood for 30/40 days and nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 FACT: Noah can gather two of every single animal species in the world in a short amount of time and last through a flood for 30/40 days and nights. Oh, for sure. In addition, a man can easily be swallowed by a whale (sorry, fundies, I'm not calling it a big fish) and survive for a few days in its stomach (with strong acids and without air/food). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 FACT: Noah can gather two of every single animal species in the world in a short amount of time and last through a flood for 30/40 days and nights. Oh' date=' for sure. In addition, a man can easily be swallowed by a whale (sorry, fundies, I'm not calling it a big fish) and survive for a few days in its stomach (with strong acids and without air/food).[/quote'] 100% true. Also, two people created by a supreme being can reproduce through inbreeding and create a population of 6 billion+ when the majority don't have mental defects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Exodus is the only part I consider possible (apart from the turning the river into blood and parting the sea). They may have just left.The river turning to "blood" is in a way possible. If memory serves I watched a show on the History channel that said something about red algea and that is some how posioned the water. Well' date=' Flame, I must say that the red algae is posssible but there is also a high iron content, which makes things appear red, (especially when in water).[/quote']Also possible. FACT: Noah can gather two of every single animal species in the world in a short amount of time and last through a flood for 30/40 days and nights.I'd assume this was a my post. I never said Noah did that. I said the flood itself is based on a real event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 FACT: Noah can gather two of every single animal species in the world in a short amount of time and last through a flood for 30/40 days and nights. Oh' date=' for sure. In addition, a man can easily be swallowed by a whale (sorry, fundies, I'm not calling it a big fish) and survive for a few days in its stomach (with strong acids and without air/food).[/quote'] 100% true. Also, two people created by a supreme being can reproduce through inbreeding and create a population of 6 billion+ when the majority don't have mental defects. ^ One of my all-time favourite Bible facts. Oh yeah, Cain's wife appeared out of thin air. There was no flood. There was simply more water for millions of years while Pangea separated into two supercontinents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Exodus is the only part I consider possible (apart from the turning the river into blood and parting the sea). They may have just left.The river turning to "blood" is in a way possible. If memory serves I watched a show on the History channel that said something about red algea and that is some how posioned the water. Well' date=' Flame, I must say that the red algae is posssible but there is also a high iron content, which makes things appear red, (especially when in water).[/quote']Also possible. FACT: Noah can gather two of every single animal species in the world in a short amount of time and last through a flood for 30/40 days and nights.I'd assume this was a my post. I never said Noah did that. I said the flood itself is based on a real event. This has nothing to do with your post. I am telling everyone the truth that lies within the Bible. They don't call it non-fiction for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 ITT: Horus doing his lolreligion thing, Dark trying to emulate Horus. Also, I remember hearing Judges was a pretty accurate book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 ITT: Horus doing his lolreligion thing' date=' Dark trying to emulate Horus. Also, I remember hearing Judges was a pretty accurate book.[/quote'] Following the footsteps of a great leader will not make you a great follower, but one can try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 ITT: Horus doing his lolreligion thing' date=' Dark trying to emulate Horus.[/quote']For this reason I'm locking this because this is all the thread will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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