Dark Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 One of my best friends. He is a Freshmen in high school, and he is currently taking Biology. They started with a unit on evolution, and one Christian kid brought a note from his parents and was exempt from taking the class for 2 weeks until the evolution chapter was over. Do you think that this should be allowed, or should it be required for everyone to learn about evolution? Note that evolution is a big part in biology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk-Chan Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Evolution has been proven to be real in many species, but it has yet to be proven in humans. I can see why a Christian would be against the theory of Evolution, however I don't believe they should not be enlightened by the thought of it. I mean, until it is proven in humans, what do they have to argue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelioSpark Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Mandate it :PBy giving them the option of opting out, whe are only creating more ignorance in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Evolution has been proven to be real in many species' date=' but it has yet to be proven in humans. I can see why a Christian would be against the theory of Evolution, however I don't believe they should not be enlightened by the thought of it. I mean, until it is proven in humans, what do they have to argue?[/quote'] And it's not like the dude has to break his religion (lolreligion) by learning about it. It's actually unfair to the other students as he is exempt from homework and quizzes for that section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 If he doesn't take down the stuff on Evolution he is, as you said, missing a HUGE part of Bio. I'm in AP Bio right now and I remember me teacher saying that it will keep coming up though out the class so even if he does skip it he will be hereing about it for the whole year and he can' avoid it. Also what is wrong about learning it. Learning it and knowing it =/= you need to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk-Chan Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 lolreligion indeed.But yes, it isn't fair. And what if the boy must know theories and material about it on a final exam given by the state or something? Must the boy be excluded from that section, or must he just fail it? Learning it and knowing it =/= you need to believe it. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 If he doesn't take down the stuff on Evolution he is' date=' as you said, missing a HUGE part of Bio. I'm in AP Bio right now and I remember me teacher saying that it will keep coming up though out the class so even if he does skip it he will be hereing about it for the whole year and he can' avoid it. Also what is wrong about learning it. Learning it and knowing it =/= you need to believe it.[/quote'] And it's not like he will never see evolution again in his life. It's obviously going to pop up places, so he is lucky he got to avoid it now. lolreligion indeed.But yes' date=' it isn't fair. And what if the boy must know theories and material about it on a final exam given by the state or something? Must the boy be excluded from that section, or must he just fail it?[/quote'] Final Exams, I'm pretty sure that he will fail the few questions on evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 He/she should still take it. If he wants to debate on God vs. Evolution one day, he'd better know how it works so he knows what he's dealing with. Besides, God and Evolution could both be right at the same time, IMO. It's something he should learn about, and he needs to learn that there are other things out there other than Christianity, and if it's possible and has some supporting evidence, he should at least check it out. That doesn't mean he has to give up Christianity, but just to learn about it. More importantly, you don't skip out on your academics because you believe differently about it. inb4DarksaysGoddoesn'texistinb4HORUSsaysGoddoesn'texistinb4ReligionbashbyDark/HORUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I honestly don't care what someone else does with their life, as long as they're not harming anyone. This is really a non-issue, kid says "I'd rather not learn evolution", people say "HOW DARE YOU!!!".Yeah, whatever. EDIT: Forgot to say, glad to see you back from your ban, Dark. I know it seems like I don't like you sometimes, but I really find it pretty fun to debate with you, it keeps life from being boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dictator7 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I don't think you should make anyone have to learn something, but a christian should learn both sides of evolution. That God evolved us, and nature evlolved us. then you can connected them and that's when you get an understanding. That's what I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk-Chan Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Wowzers...That's horrible. I think the school should inform his parents about this, and how it may be detrimental to his grades in the future. I mean, he IS his own person. Yes, they are his parents, but sometimes the one who knows best is the kid. If that makes sense. I feel for the boy. I don't think you should make anyone have to learn something' date=' but a christian should learn both sides of evolution. That God evolved us, and nature evlolved us. then you can connected them and that's when you get an understanding. That's what I did.[/quote'] If it is not a Christian School, I believe it is illegal to involve religion into a lesson. So speaking of evolution from a Deity's part, would be baaaad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I'll say this much, the founders of Christianity were obviously much better trolls than you, and as you tend to glamourize trolling so much, looks like you're in a bit of a loophole here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 He/she should still take it. If he wants to debate on God vs. Evolution one day' date=' he'd better know how it works so he knows what he's dealing with. Besides, God and Evolution could both be right at the same time, IMO. It's something he should learn about, and he needs to learn that there are other things out there other than Christianity, and if it's possible and has some supporting evidence, he should at least check it out. That doesn't mean he has to give up Christianity, but just to learn about it. More importantly, you don't skip out on your academics because you believe differently about it. inb4DarksaysGoddoesn'texistinb4HORUSsaysGoddoesn'texistinb4ReligionbashbyDark/HORUS[/quote'] Myself and HORUS both have been bashing religion and saying God does not exist from the day we turned atheists. So your "inb4" is too late. He doesn't want to learn it because he says he might lose faith. I'm talking to him on AIM. I'm pretending I'm not an atheist, because he doesn't know yet. Seriously, 98% of the school knows I am an atheist. I don't think you should make anyone have to learn something' date=' but a christian should learn both sides of evolution. That God evolved us, and nature evlolved us. then you can connected them and that's when you get an understanding. That's what I did.[/quote'] Contradicting theories. The Bible says God did not evolve us, and we were created. EDIT: His parents agreed to him pulling out of evolution. I'll say this much, the founders of Christianity were obviously much better trolls than you, and as you tend to glamourize trolling so much, looks like you're in a bit of a loophole here. Good enough trolls that 1/3 of the world follows them. I'll never reach that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodius Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Make him take it. Eradicate ignorance and have him and his family accept the truth. And even if he does not believe in evolution, open his mind, for example in grade 6 I learned about Aztec Human Sacrifice (Well, I already knew about it) whether I or my parents though it was "right". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Make him take it. Eradicate ignorance and have him and his family accept the truth. He'll probably refuse to learn and fail. This is just hear-say, but I heard Catholic School Biology has a different curriculum than mainstream school where it doesn't involve evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dictator7 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 He/she should still take it. If he wants to debate on God vs. Evolution one day' date=' he'd better know how it works so he knows what he's dealing with. Besides, God and Evolution could both be right at the same time, IMO. It's something he should learn about, and he needs to learn that there are other things out there other than Christianity, and if it's possible and has some supporting evidence, he should at least check it out. That doesn't mean he has to give up Christianity, but just to learn about it. More importantly, you don't skip out on your academics because you believe differently about it. inb4DarksaysGoddoesn'texistinb4HORUSsaysGoddoesn'texistinb4ReligionbashbyDark/HORUS[/quote'] Myself and HORUS both have been bashing religion and saying God does not exist from the day we turned atheists. So your "inb4" is too late. He doesn't want to learn it because he says he might lose faith. I'm talking to him on AIM. I'm pretending I'm not an atheist, because he doesn't know yet. Seriously, 98% of the school knows I am an atheist. I don't think you should make anyone have to learn something' date=' but a christian should learn both sides of evolution. That God evolved us, and nature evlolved us. then you can connected them and that's when you get an understanding. That's what I did.[/quote'] Contradicting theories. The Bible says God did not evolve us, and we were created. True, mistake on my part. But take that out, and look at the science. We obviously evolved. The bible was written before we knew this so, the just stated that god evolved humans, when (my views) god created us as organisms, and from there he evolved us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitus Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 He/she should still take it. If he wants to debate on God vs. Evolution one day' date=' he'd better know how it works so he knows what he's dealing with. Besides, God and Evolution could both be right at the same time, IMO. It's something he should learn about, and he needs to learn that there are other things out there other than Christianity, and if it's possible and has some supporting evidence, he should at least check it out. That doesn't mean he has to give up Christianity, but just to learn about it. More importantly, you don't skip out on your academics because you believe differently about it. inb4DarksaysGoddoesn'texistinb4HORUSsaysGoddoesn'texistinb4ReligionbashbyDark/HORUS[/quote'] Myself and HORUS both have been bashing religion and saying God does not exist from the day we turned atheists. So your "inb4" is too late. He doesn't want to learn it because he says he might lose faith. I'm talking to him on AIM. I'm pretending I'm not an atheist, because he doesn't know yet. Seriously, 98% of the school knows I am an atheist. I don't think you should make anyone have to learn something' date=' but a christian should learn both sides of evolution. That God evolved us, and nature evlolved us. then you can connected them and that's when you get an understanding. That's what I did.[/quote'] Contradicting theories. The Bible says God did not evolve us, and we were created. I knew that, and I was always told "You never know until you try." I have rebutals to the contradicting theories, but I'm tired, and I REALLY don't feel like it. If he's worried he might lose faith, than he might as well be sheltered (no offense), because life is full of things that could challenge his faith, and the subject could very well fortify that faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Don't turn this into a religious debate. You know the Moderators. They'll lock everything. I want to keep this open. If that is the case, he should stay at home his whole life and not have any contact to the outside world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I don't think you should make anyone have to learn something' date=' but a christian should learn both sides of evolution. That God evolved us, and nature evlolved us. then you can connected them and that's when you get an understanding. That's what I did.[/quote'] to bad God isnt science. if u believe god evolved man good for u but that is still faith and not science there for shouldn't be in schools. if it has the big G in it, leave it out of public schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 It depends on the Catholic school, some teach evolution, some don't. Evolution and Christianity are not inherently contradicting, nowhere does the Bible say that evolution didn't happen, it is open enough that it can be believed that it did happen, within the religion itself, or it can be believed it didn't. FW: So no Grendal?!?!?!?!? yay!Just a little bit of pointless humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I don't think you should make anyone have to learn something' date=' but a christian should learn both sides of evolution. That God evolved us, and nature evlolved us. then you can connected them and that's when you get an understanding. That's what I did.[/quote'] to bad God isnt science. if u believe god evolved man good for u but that is still faith and not science there for shouldn't be in schools. if it has the big G in it, leave it out of public schools regardless. And it's not like evolution is a slight part of biology that only pertains to one chapter. It is something that comes back every single unit. nowhere does the Bible say that evolution didn't happen Adam and Eve were obviously humans. Unless you count that as an interpretation. In which case, the Bible also states creationism. Unless you consider the whole Bible an interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 That's true, without evolution, most of biology couldn't be explained, but again, it's not anyone's place to tell someone else what they should think or learn, he has a right to opt out, and there is nothing wrong with exercising that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Why isn't he in a Catholic School exactly? =/ And why did he take biology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 At most schools I've seen, Bio is a requirement, and it is entirely possible he can't afford Catholic school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dictator7 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 That is why this is America. You can say what ever, or believe what ever you want. That is why people shouldn't make a big deal about asying God in school. People can speak their minds. They don't have to learn about what they don't believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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