Lemniscate Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Simple question, do right and wrong exist? I'll let other people get the debate rolling, and I'll come in and have a go at it in a bit. Start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Yes. I believe it does. But the law should protect those under the law, regardless of right and wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 lolno If I kill Bob, I believe I am doing right. If I kill Bob, Bob's parents will believe I am doing wrong. If I kill Bob, Bob's adversary will believe I am doing right. If I kill Bob, the government will believe I am doing wrong. Wrong and right are never set in stone, because the circumstances are always different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 lolno If I kill Bob' date=' I believe I am doing right. If I kill Bob, Bob's parents will believe I am doing wrong. If I kill Bob, Bob's adversary will believe I am doing right. If I kill Bob, the government will believe I am doing wrong. Wrong and right are never set in stone, because the circumstances are always different.[/quote'] To further emphasize how circumstantial this is, here's some other version. You didn't think killing Bob was right, because it was an accident and you were aiming for his kneecaps. Bob's parents were right because they know he's a worthless rapist. Bob's adversary won't think it's right because he's a prosecutor that wants him rehabilitated. The government thinks you're right because it was in self defense (mileage may vary by state). Technically there is a right and wrong, but there is most likely no person who's opinions absolutely coincide with it. It's like chasing the holy grail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 IMO right and wrong is more of a subjective idea instilled into our system for the most part by humanity in an attempt to keep things in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shadow Thief~ Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I depends how you look at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheftral Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 They\'re abstractions we impose upon ourselves. Right and wrong only exist if you have a conscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 no. war is not right for the losers. The winners end up thinking it was totally right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 It depends how you look at it this also it all depends on your conciousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 no. war is not right for the losers. The winners end up thinking it was totally right War is good for the world, because humans die there, and humans are bad for the world. The problem is when humans use nuclear stuff, that hurts the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 OK, but each side will see that they SHOULD have won, for the good of humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Right and Wrong are completely dictated by society. If the society you live happens to think that polygamy is right and good, guess what? It is. If you live in a monogamous society, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 no. war is not right for the losers. The winners end up thinking it was totally right War is good for the world' date=' because humans die there, and humans are bad for the world. The problem is when humans use nuclear stuff, that hurts the world.[/quote'] Bad for the world? Why is it good for the world to have life in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 no. war is not right for the losers. The winners end up thinking it was totally right War is good for the world' date=' because humans die there, and humans are bad for the world. The problem is when humans use nuclear stuff, that hurts the world.[/quote'] Bad for the world? Why is it good for the world to have life in the first place? Allows the Earth to brag about it. Makes jealous the rest of the solar system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Isn't this a matter of perspective? =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 no. war is not right for the losers. The winners end up thinking it was totally right War is good for the world' date=' because humans die there, and humans are bad for the world. The problem is when humans use nuclear stuff, that hurts the world.[/quote'] Bad for the world? Why is it good for the world to have life in the first place? Allows the Earth to brag about it. Makes jealous the rest of the solar system.Then let's destroy Earth for the sake of the rest of the Solar System. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 no. war is not right for the losers. The winners end up thinking it was totally right War is good for the world' date=' because humans die there, and humans are bad for the world. The problem is when humans use nuclear stuff, that hurts the world.[/quote'] Bad for the world? Why is it good for the world to have life in the first place? Allows the Earth to brag about it. Makes jealous the rest of the solar system.Then let's destroy Earth for the sake of the rest of the Solar System. That would make it boring. I think what I say is right, and what you say is wrong. That's what this thread is about, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Your opinions are bad, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Your opinions are bad' date=' however.[/quote'] That's what she said. I think my opinions are right, and I will not change it just because someone thinks otherwise. I hope you don't have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm fine with your opinion, I just find its logic faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I'm fine with your opinion' date=' I just find its logic faulty.[/quote'] It's still hard for me to think in english, amigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick4u Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 We perceive. We do, however, perceive on a spectrum that is influenced by all circumstantial factors in a given event. We don't necessarily have right and wrong, just justified and unjustified, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollowblade Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 There is right and wrong, however different cultures perceive right and wrong differently. This can be seen through laws and other such regulations within a nation. Things that are controlled or regulated are viewed as wrong and a threat to society. The essence of right and wrong is just how we as a society perceive how our world should be run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think the words used here are poor, because they imply some purpose for existence. There is zero ground to propose that any event is a "right" or "wrong" one, except in the context of achieving a certain goal. Better words to use would be "good" and "bad." And the answer to this question would be yes. However, they are words with an entirely subjective meaning. It's a tenet of philosophy that good can only be defined in terms of evil, and evil likewise in terms of good. Since the concepts only have meaning in their own opposition, they are entirely subjective. Obviously, however, there is a loosely standardized moral code throughout the world. I can go on explaining the evolutionary basis of morality, and I'm sure a religious person could go on explaining the religious significance of morality, but to be honest it's irrelevant. YOu must conform to the moral standard or change it if you wish to continue to exist unhindered. It's pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Legend Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Their is no right or wrong. Many ppl have their own oppinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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