Determinism

[OMGAKITTY]

ITT: noobs don't know what subliminal messaging means.

[Amaterasu]

What does ITT mean?

[OMGAKITTY]

In this thread.

[因 Element 因]

If that were true then why do subliminal messages work less than 100% of the time?

Can you smell that.. cows.. no sheep no I know what it is.. it's bullshit!

[Amaterasu]

Good thing no noobs have posted yet then.

 

Dern same time post of a noob.

[BehindTheMask]

Our actions are governed by laws. Because each and every atom must follow these laws, then each part of what makes a person a person must follow these laws.

 

If every part of a person must follow these laws...how can we freely choose actions?

 

I mean, yes, we choose...but can it be a free choice?

 

Conscious and unconscious desires dictate what we do...which is a response created by chemicals in our brain.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

There isn't free will, unless there is a sort of spirit inside life in general that guides us which isn't innately different or changed by nurture. I doubt that and have arrived at the conclusion that free will is more than likely nonexistent only a couple of weeks ago, actually. Among other things.

 

Though my reasoning is more philosophical than this.

[Sunshine Jesse]

Free will isn't the same thing as freedom of choice. We control our own choices, but our decisions are made based on our past experiences. Humans cannot go completely against our past experiences, how we've been risen, etc. Its not possible. Therefore, free will doesn't exist.

[The Dark One]

It depends on your definition of free will. There's no reason to believe that some higher being out there is calling the shots. In other words, FATE or DESTINY is a flawed concept.

 

However, it is a mere fact that we are a consequence of our past. We are collections of molecules that will perform in organized processes which can be predicted. On a grander scale, our choices are reflections of our present circumstances, which can, like any other act in the universe, be predicted due to their organized nature, and our personalities. Our personalities, likewise, are determined by a combination of past experiences and our genetic prerogatives: themselves a product of evolution.

 

While certainly there are anomalies in human behavior, the consensus is not that the human is random, but that human behavior reaches a level of depth as of yet still beyond our ability to study. Neuropsychology remains a science in its infancy.

 

And no, I didn't watch the video either. So don't bother asking if you think I'm not hitting on what you want me to hit on. I'll probably watch it before my next post.

[OMGAKITTY]

It depends on your definition of free will. There's no reason to believe that some higher being out there is calling the shots. In other words' date=' FATE or DESTINY is a flawed concept.

 

However, it is a mere fact that we are a consequence of our past. We are collections of molecules that will perform in organized processes which can be predicted. On a grander scale, our choices are reflections of our present circumstances, which can, like any other act in the universe, be predicted due to their organized nature, and our personalities. Our personalities, likewise, are determined by a combination of past experiences and our genetic prerogatives: themselves a product of evolution.

 

While certainly there are anomalies in human behavior, the consensus is not that the human is random, but that human behavior reaches a level of depth as of yet still beyond our ability to study. Neuropsychology remains a science in its infancy.

 

And no, I didn't watch the video either. So don't bother asking if you think I'm not hitting on what you want me to hit on. I'll probably watch it before my next post.

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I stopped after the guy in the video told me I was a baka and to suck his golden pubes.

[BehindTheMask]

It depends on your definition of free will. There's no reason to believe that some higher being out there is calling the shots. In other words' date=' FATE or DESTINY is a flawed concept.

 

However, it is a mere fact that we are a consequence of our past. We are collections of molecules that will perform in organized processes which can be predicted. On a grander scale, our choices are reflections of our present circumstances, which can, like any other act in the universe, be predicted due to their organized nature, and our personalities. Our personalities, likewise, are determined by a combination of past experiences and our genetic prerogatives: themselves a product of evolution.

 

While certainly there are anomalies in human behavior, the consensus is not that the human is random, but that human behavior reaches a level of depth as of yet still beyond our ability to study. Neuropsychology remains a science in its infancy.

 

And no, I didn't watch the video either. So don't bother asking if you think I'm not hitting on what you want me to hit on. I'll probably watch it before my next post.

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The video actually talks about this...but not in the exact words.

[Dark]

This is in response to the first post, not whatever the hell the current discussion is. You YCMers and your tendancy to shift off topic. (Oh, the irony.)

 

Uhh... I don't think anything, whether it be a supreme being or a force of nature or anything else, can force me to do something, or bound me in a certain path. No destiny, no fate, no fortunes.