Dark Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 A democracy is when people vote. Demo is latin for people.Cracy is latin for... government. The people's government. People rule it. Thus, people vote. So, if I went to a democratic country, and I said "Let's take a vote on whether we should take a vote on healthcare issues.", I'd be a dictator in their democracy. They'd have to take a vote to take the vote. But they'd need to vote for that too. And that too. And that too. Oh, they need to vote for that. And that too. As well as this. Ad infinitum. Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayy lmao Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 What do we discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 No governmental systems as of yet have been all that good. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 What do we discuss? The first post. No governmental systems as of yet have been all that good. =/ I found a loophole, I wanted to post it. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blamonchesix Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 The way you perceive it is kinda chaotic. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Okay... but I wasn't asking for a solution, nor was I asked for your input about a dictatorship. Simply what I was saying is that a democracy cannot be what its meaning is, as a dictator must dictate to the people that a vote is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroshot Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Yup, that's a loophole alright.What are you trying to prove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Nothing, really. I guess I'm trying to prove that democracies don't exactly exist? ._. STOP RUINING MY WELL-PLANNED TOPIC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Simply what I was saying is that a democracy cannot be what its meaning is, as a dictator must dictate to the people that a vote is in order. Ah okay I see. Brief confusion on my part, sorry. Of course a democracy isn't what it's meaning leads us to believe. It's all twisted by the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysta101 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Nothing' date=' really. I guess I'm trying to prove that democracies don't exactly exist? ._. STOP RUINING MY WELL-PLANNED TOPIC![/quote'] The last true democracy was in Athens, wasn't it? ^^ So democracies haven't existed since at least then :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I assume this has something to do with the board and the staff. If this is not the case, skip the spoiler below. This board is far far too massive in size to ever properly do anything with a "poll" and with "voting". If every voice mattered, not only would we see a crapton of multis, but we'd see all the 9 year olds with -12 reps who've made hundreds of elemental hero cards show up to vote to elect for some ridiculous sheet. Yeah, no thanks. Uhh... so like, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Красивая Ведьма Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Nothing' date=' really. I guess I'm trying to prove that democracies don't exactly exist? ._. STOP RUINING MY WELL-PLANNED TOPIC![/quote'] The last true democracy was in Athens, wasn't it? ^^ So democracies haven't existed since at least then :P No, we use a representative democracy because with are large population it would be chaotic and overly time consuming. So, we elect representatives to vote on/create laws and all the other gov. duties. @The First Post: In a democracy anyone can propose a vote in congress. You view of the concept is misunderstood and slightly uneducated. Proposing a vote isn't dictatorship. Despotism (Dictatorship) occurs when someone has all the power. By proposing a vote or a bill you are still equal to the other congress members because they have the same right. Also, the horrid spelling in the title does nothing for your credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroshot Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Nothing' date=' really. I guess I'm trying to prove that democracies don't exactly exist? ._. STOP RUINING MY WELL-PLANNED TOPIC![/quote'] The last true democracy was in Athens, wasn't it? ^^ So democracies haven't existed since at least then :P No, we use a representative democracy because with are large population it would be chaotic and overly time consuming. So, we elect representatives to vote on/create laws and all the other gov. duties. Your from Greece too? We're family :D And she is half correct. Athens is credited for the invention of Democracy, but that was 3000 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Красивая Ведьма Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Nothing' date=' really. I guess I'm trying to prove that democracies don't exactly exist? ._. STOP RUINING MY WELL-PLANNED TOPIC![/quote'] The last true democracy was in Athens, wasn't it? ^^ So democracies haven't existed since at least then :P No, we use a representative democracy because with are large population it would be chaotic and overly time consuming. So, we elect representatives to vote on/create laws and all the other gov. duties. Your from Greece too? We're family :D And she is half correct. Athens is credited for the invention of Democracy, but that was 3000 years ago. No, I am speaking as an American. Sorry for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyire Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 There is one major flaw in our government. (US) Legistlative = GoodJudicial = Good Executive = Flawed. What if the person we vote to power is not capable of his duties.Impeach? America is too lazy for that. Instead of one; three.One democrat.One republican.One... all the rest. It makes everyone happy.Every one of three has equal power than the other.I solvded sum problmz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Why democracy is good...because its not! In a Democracy, EVERYONE has to vote on EVERYTHING! which makes it FAIL! two famous quotes on Democracy:"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep trying to figure out whats for dinner"-Denjamin Franklin (I think)"Democracy is little more than a chaotic mob of 100 people in which 51 of those people can easily and legally take away all rights of the other 49"-Thomas Jefferson (I think...)Now think about it, to defend themselves, everyone has to cast a vote to go to war or not. I'm Joe the Farmer, do I have time to read every bill that needs a vote? no. In a monarchy, of any kind, except Britain's fail Slowly-becoming-Fascist Parliamentary Monarchy, all the ruler has to do is say "Attack them" and it happens. how much time does that save? to sum it up:Democracy=FailMonarchy=Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 "Democracy is little more than a chaotic mob of 100 people in which 51 of those people can easily and legally take away all rights of the other 49"-Thomas Jefferson (I think...) in that same logic with monarchy, one person can legally take away the rights of the other million or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyire Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Monarchy=Win Did you ever take world history? King Louis XVI ring a bell?King George III either? Absolute Monarchy is bad, for obvious reasons.Anything less than that, becomes a Parliament run country, which is flawed. Not good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 "Democracy is little more than a chaotic mob of 100 people in which 51 of those people can easily and legally take away all rights of the other 49"-Thomas Jefferson (I think...) in that same logic with monarchy' date=' one person can legally take away the rights of the other million or so[/quote'] yeah, the one-person-going-power-mad kind of monarchy was tried at one point: it ended in the Magna Carta. However, in a Democracy, since its the 51-49 thing, that wouldn't happen, because the 51 people would say "I vote 'no'" then thats that. nothing. pointless. waste of time.William the Conquerer, Louis XIV, oh, who was the first absolute Monarch of France, the one who took the flawed non-monarchy France DID have before him, gain more and more power, and then made it an effective government? can't remember his name, I took, and passed, US History after that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 "Democracy is little more than a chaotic mob of 100 people in which 51 of those people can easily and legally take away all rights of the other 49"-Thomas Jefferson (I think...) in that same logic with monarchy' date=' one person can legally take away the rights of the other million or so[/quote'] yeah, the one-person-going-power-mad kind of monarchy was tried at one point: it ended in the Magna Carta. However, in a Democracy, since its the 51-49 thing, that wouldn't happen, because the 51 people would say "I vote 'no'" then thats that. nothing. pointless. waste of time.William the Conquerer, Louis XIV, oh, who was the first absolute Monarch of France, the one who took the flawed non-monarchy France DID have before him, gain more and more power, and then made it an effective government? can't remember his name, I took, and passed, US History after that... so a cruel ruler who killed everything who opposed him is better than getting nothing accomplished? -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 At the very least it's not a complete waste of time.PS: The only reason the French Ab. Mon. failed is because Louis XVI was a weak ruler who didn't know what he was doing, if Louis XVI had selected someone who was competent as a ruler, France would probably still have the Ab. Mon. government. The same with every Ab. Mon. the has failed: the only reason it failed was because the succession from father-son puts an incompetent on the throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 democracy makes no sense. We should all be under a dictatorship [/topic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 democracy makes no sense. We should all be under a dictatorship [/topic] The first post did not ask for your view on democracy' date=' nor did it ask for an alternative. So why have a [/topic'] tag when you aren't even referring to the topic at hand? Maybe I am misunderstanding what a democracy is, but I think that it is when everyone in a body votes to pass a law, give a right, loan money, et cetera. When you are telling one to take a vote, you are telling them. You are not asking if they want to vote for a vote, or if they want to vote for a vote for a vote. You are simply stating that a vote is in order, and no one can change that decision. So how is a democracy when votes are set in stone? Shouldn't we vote to take a vote? And shouldn't we vote to take that vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 democracy makes no sense. We should all be under a dictatorship [/topic] The first post did not ask for your view on democracy' date=' nor did it ask for an alternative. So why have a [/topic'] tag when you aren't even referring to the topic at hand? Maybe I am misunderstanding what a democracy is, but I think that it is when everyone in a body votes to pass a law, give a right, loan money, et cetera. When you are telling one to take a vote, you are telling them. You are not asking if they want to vote for a vote, or if they want to vote for a vote for a vote. You are simply stating that a vote is in order, and no one can change that decision. So how is a democracy when votes are set in stone? Shouldn't we vote to take a vote? And shouldn't we vote to take that vote? Well your topic makes no sense whatsoever, so anyone can make it what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 A benevolent dictatorship would be better then any other form of government. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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