Lucciola Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well some may of seen my initial introduction post and maybe one reply after it and I haven't made any sort of other mark yet, well I like getting a feel for a place before I get to in depth into it. So I've been trolling around for a few days or so to see how things go around here, and no offense but it doesn't seem to be going all that well which is a real shame because of the possibilities this forum could have. So all this in fighting is really just kinda sad and I make no statements as to whose causing or not causing trouble because I haven't been around long enough to do so, but I can tell you that I've been on forums where in fighting happened to such a degree that two founders were kicked out and some really nasty and biased people were elected to staff positions. Then after all that was said and done and the trash was taken out in some capacity, the forum was never the same and eventually came to an almost grinding halt but may as well been dead apart from the select group of members still hanging around. Now I don't wanna see that here because I've been through enough forum deaths already and I like the idea behind this place but with all this fighting the place could be ruined, and I'm guessing someone is wondering where my questions went well I'm about to come to them. First off, should I even bother to stay and or delve into this community if you're all just creating a civil war between each other over silly things that should easily be fixed with just a plain old discussion? Also whats all this weirdness about YCM or some things like it's a clan and there's only certain people in it cause what I figure isn't that the abbreviation for the forum, so where the hell does that come from or does it just refer to staff or some other thing like that? Next all those mod bashing threads I saw were just pitiful because these people take time out of their lives to work here as mods/admins etc and without any kind of pay check, so why not cut them a break and if their is problems then rectify it with civility and make some kind of voted way of hiring mods? In relation to that question I can think of ways and I don't know how you hire mods and stuff here but this is how it has been on many forums I'm on and it has worked well, first off some may offer members the chance to go for modship etc while others may just pick people they feel could be worth it. Either of those are personal choices of electing people but anyway once people are chosen make it so they have to go through a form as well as a set of training exercises, which should hopefully make them better equipped to handle their modship thus having less chance of failing mods etc. I think I've probably wrote enough for one day and may come back later depending on the responses I get from this, and yes I can figure that someone may say what right do I have coming in here and lecturing people about the way to run things and such like that. Well I know I ain't no long time member here but I am a long time forum goer on various kinds of forums over more then a decade so no callings for noob and stuff like that since I'm far from it anyway I hope you guys can take this and think about it before blowing up about my interference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well some may of seen my initial introduction post and maybe one reply after it and I haven't made any sort of other mark yet' date=' well I like getting a feel for a place before I get to in depth into it. So I've been trolling around for a few days or so to see how things go around here, and no offense but it doesn't seem to be going all that well which is a real shame because of the possibilities this forum could have. So all this in fighting is really just kinda sad and I make no statements as to whose causing or not causing trouble because I haven't been around long enough to do so, but I can tell you that I've been on forums where in fighting happened to such a degree that two founders were kicked out and some really nasty and biased people were elected to staff positions. Then after all that was said and done and the trash was taken out in some capacity, the forum was never the same and eventually came to an almost grinding halt but may as well been dead apart from the select group of members still hanging around. Now I don't wanna see that here because I've been through enough forum deaths already and I like the idea behind this place but with all this fighting the place could be ruined, and I'm guessing someone is wondering where my questions went well I'm about to come to them. First off, should I even bother to stay and or delve into this community if you're all just creating a civil war between each other over silly things that should easily be fixed with just a plain old discussion? [b']People always argue, whether it's on the internet or not. Remain neutral if you don't want to get into a war.[/b] Also whats all this weirdness about YCM or some things like it's a clan and there's only certain people in it cause what I figure isn't that the abbreviation for the forum, so where the hell does that come from or does it just refer to staff or some other thing like that? YCM stands for Yugioh Card Maker, the name of the forum. Next all those mod bashing threads I saw were just pitiful because these people take time out of their lives to work here as mods/admins etc and without any kind of pay check, so why not cut them a break and if their is problems then rectify it with civility and make some kind of voted way of hiring mods? There has been some hostility toward the mods for banning a few trolls, in other words, doing their job. In relation to that question I can think of ways and I don't know how you hire mods and stuff here but this is how it has been on many forums I'm on and it has worked well, first off some may offer members the chance to go for modship etc while others may just pick people they feel could be worth it. Either of those are personal choices of electing people but anyway once people are chosen make it so they have to go through a form as well as a set of training exercises, which should hopefully make them better equipped to handle their modship thus having less chance of failing mods etc. I think I've probably wrote enough for one day and may come back later depending on the responses I get from this, and yes I can figure that someone may say what right do I have coming in here and lecturing people about the way to run things and such like that. Well I know I ain't no long time member here but I am a long time forum goer on various kinds of forums over more then a decade so no callings for noob and stuff like that since I'm far from it anyway I hope you guys can take this and think about it before blowing up about my interference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Metal Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 It's hardly a 'civil war'. It's more like a couple artards getting mad at the mods and spamming like crazy. YCM has seen worse. =/ Oh yeah. Welcome to YCM! Enjoy your stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Get out now while you can. On a serious note, i like what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucciola Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Well I thank you for your responses though I expected a little more backfire and or discussion from this but I guess some people have yet to see it so we'll see their reaction then, anyway thanks for the comment J.R and for the moment I'll stick around at least to use the card maker. And I wrote this because of my honest persona and just wanted to give people something to think about because it helps to sometimes have things looked at from a new pair of eyes, either way I'm glad to be here and hope to make my stay fun as well as helpful to the board in full and by the way expect rp's from me in the near future... P.S Don't lock the topic, I wanna see what others have to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 lol Raver. I wish you had told me that back in early 08. As for the whole bickering at Mods thing? It's actually been worse lately. Seems like whatever we do isn't "right" Also as you rightly pointed out, we give up our free time to at least try to keep order. Oh and by the way OP, you've got a nice attitude. I hope you enjoy YCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I like your POV, but actually, that's not exactly what's been going on. This is nothing more but a setup by some members here to have fun. Since you joined only recently, you might not have known of the 'Coolio' incident. Well, just a few veterans messing about. Nothing much. And the whole 'moderator argument' thing was for the lulz. But anyways, hi, enjoy your stay. Another mature, 23 year old will always make this forum a lot more cheerful. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I respect you already, that never happens.But as has already been said, it isn't what you think.There was a failed raid on the site, and the members involved were banned, but because the raid had failed, they decided to create a series of double accounts and spam the site. The moderators then began to ban these new accounts, and the original raiders began using friends who were not banned to incite people against the mods. Thus, spam increased further, and the mods were forced to take even more measures against the escalating conflict. Short version: Mods did their jobs, People got pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muluck Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Every place has it's good's and bad's. But at the end of the day it isn't the place itself that is bad, but the people that bring it to life everyday. So you ask why you should delve into this forum? We can't answer that for you, I certainly can't. But what I can say is that when you find a spot your good at, stick with it. Do your own time, not someone elses. That is the best advice I can give you on how to steer away from all the fighting.Mind you, everything that happens here is text. Typed by people all over the world. Most young, some old, all are humans all have their faults. Don't rate YCM based on the fighting, rate it on the people you meet. Anyway, one last thing before I head off I have to reiterate that it is important you don't go looking for fights. If they come your way, leave. It's the easiest way to avoid it, the Moderators cannot control every aspect of the life of this forum. Just like the Peers in your life cannot control every aspect of your life to make sure your happy. Life isn't that perfect my friend, I am sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Next all those mod bashing threads I saw were just pitiful because these people take time out of their lives to work here as mods/admins etc and without any kind of pay check' date=' so why not cut them a break and if their is problems then rectify it with civility and make some kind of voted way of hiring mods?[/quote'] Silly argument. ^_^ Normal members don't get paychecks either. The only difference between mods and normal members is power. With great power comes great responsibility. With failure to use said power responsibly come great responses. Way of the land. You haven't been here an awful long time (or so you'd have us believe anyway), so I'd take more time to observe our system before evaluating it. First off' date=' should I even bother to stay and or delve into this community if you're all just creating a civil war between each other over silly things that should easily be fixed with just a plain old discussion?[/quote'] Unfortunately, the administration's either failed to act on discussions or silenced those who would want to discuss on the way in which things should be done. Close-mindedness is a cause for different approaches until we can find a way to relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeDeFiA Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I sense a troll account here. Welcome =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 tl;dr, who's double account are you. You're more, how can we put it? Intelligent compared to Catbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 If he's a dupe, which there's a good chance he isn't, I'd go with Amethyst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 And who the funk would Amethyst be? I'm unaware of the newfag veteran wannabe's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasu Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Looks like nobody noticed the hole at the start of his post D:I am disappoint =(But I agree :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 If you mean the "trolled" part then you're late to the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 tl;dr' date=' who's double account are you. You're more, how can we put it? Intelligent compared to Catbus.[/quote'] My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
† WWE † Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Maybe a Copypasta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 And who the f*** would Amethyst be? I'm unaware of the newfag veteran wannabe's. I laughed at this. Hes just a member. Idc about the thread itself, but it doesn't serve much of a purpose. Locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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