Creator's Guide to decent Fake Types

[Sploda]

Lets start with

Bad Fake Types

These are simply put, the same as a real type except with a diffrent name. They are perfectly fine fitting into a real type and are shunned even by us in the Fake Type Empire.

Ex: Dog = Beast, Swordsman = Warrior, Necromancer = Spellcaster

(Note: Angel and Demon are not Fake Types, they are the Japanese eqiuvlent

of Fairy and Fiend).

Decent Fake Types

These are types that think out side the box, Types that encompass more than 1 real type. These are a step in the right direction and are frowned upon by most.

Ex: Plasma = Undead/Thunder, Chibi = Warrior/Spellcaster

(Note / is used to represent and and not 2 types at once).

 

Outstanding Fake Types

These are the Fake Types that really make people think. These won't fit into real types, or they would but they have a unique story that warrents a Type of its own. These are generally Frowned upon, but some do enjoy seeing them besides the Fake Type Club.

Ex: Mad Puppets = Unique backstory behind type, Inventor = Doesn't fit into any real types.

[Lyfe.]

I'd rather do fake Sub-Types over Fake-Types.

 

But yea, I guess what you say is true.

[Sploda]

Well Sub-Types are fine and all, but they can't do everything.

[Lyfe.]

Personally, I disagree with fake types. We have so many of them and you have to make a card something else?

 

But I understand with the whole "doesn't fit into a real type" thing.

 

To me, that is where Subs come into play.

[Sploda]

Well How would you turn my Inventors into Sub-Types hmm? What could possibly turn a Warrior into a Science and Mathematic using Inventor? I'm not angry btw, just want to know how.

 

Sub-Types are ok, but they can only do so much. Some Fake Types are better as Archetypes or Sub-Types, but then there are a few that just don't work that way.

[DeREVOLUTION]

Why post this in general? I understand what your talking about though :|

[Sploda]

Why? Because it would get locked anywhere else. If the Mods think it important enough to move, then they will. Since this is the General section, and this is a Guide AND there is no place for a Guide like this, it goes here.

[.Requiem]

Could probably fit better at least AoC section or at least tutorials, but you might not get a lot of responses.

[Lyfe.]

Well How would you turn my Inventors into Sub-Types hmm? What could possibly turn a Warrior into a Science and Mathematic using Inventor? I'm not angry btw' date=' just want to know how.

 

Sub-Types are ok, but they can only do so much. Some Fake Types are better as Archetypes or Sub-Types, but then there are a few that just don't work that way.

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I c waht u did thar

 

This is true.

[Sploda]

I'm gald you can see, it means your not blind as some of the people here are.

@Zauberer

yes, and then have it locked and me get a warning for posting it where it doesn't belong? And the Tut is for either GFX or for actual card making, this is just a guide for people who want to know what a decent Fake Type is.

[.Requiem]

Not necessarily, but Fake Types seems pretty much fall under custom cards.

[Sploda]

They do, but do you see any cards here? I don't, this is a guide. If you want to ask Icy to have it moved, then do it. I for one don't care as long as it gets the message across.

[Umbra]

Types only categorize monsters - they don't define them. A card doesn't need to have a specific effect or work in a specific way just because it has this or that type. "Mad Puppet" qualifies as Machine-type, the same way some of the Inpachi cards do, and "Inventor" could easily fall under Fairy / Spellcaster / Fiend depending on it's allegiance.

 

Your "decent" fake types make even less sense: "Plasma" is a form of energy, not something that one would associate with Zombies, and would easily go in Thunder without anyone being bothered by it. "Chibi" is Japanese for "small person", and doesn't warrant a type of it's own in any way possible.

 

TL;DR: Fake Types are completely unnecessary and prove no point. Everything that can be encompassed by a Fake Type can easily be covered by an existing Type, and therefore make use of existing support.

 

Inb4whydon'tyoulockthisthen: It's a discussion, and it shall remain open.

[ihop]

I maintain to believe that the only fake type worth its salt is Ghost-Type.

[Alexis Rhodes]

I dont like types even good fake types are still fake and i will still mark down cards for that

[Free Style]

I actually like making fake cards.

 

For example, when I made a Megaman card I just typed "Human".

 

Idc about that "Fiend", "Beast-warrior", "Dragon", etc. I can make my own types of cards. x]

[fenrir]

Types only categorize monsters - they don't define them. A card doesn't need to have a specific effect or work in a specific way just because it has this or that type. "Mad Puppet" qualifies as Machine-type' date=' the same way some of the Inpachi cards do, and "Inventor" could easily fall under Fairy / Spellcaster / Fiend depending on it's allegiance.

 

Your "decent" fake types make even less sense: "Plasma" is a form of energy, not something that one would associate with Zombies, and would easily go in Thunder without anyone being bothered by it. "Chibi" is Japanese for "small person", and doesn't warrant a type of it's own in any way possible.

 

TL;DR: Fake Types are completely unnecessary and prove no point. Everything that can be encompassed by a Fake Type can easily be covered by an existing Type, and therefore make use of existing support.

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Something I've been trying to explain for a while.

[Lightning Bagon]

Your Flux type doesn't fit into anything else.

Plasma could also fix into pyro.

[Sploda]

Types only categorize monsters - they don't define them. A card doesn't need to have a specific effect or work in a specific way just because it has this or that type. "Mad Puppet" qualifies as Machine-type' date=' the same way some of the Inpachi cards do, and "Inventor" could easily fall under Fairy / Spellcaster / Fiend depending on it's allegiance.

 

Your "decent" fake types make even less sense: "Plasma" is a form of energy, not something that one would associate with Zombies, and would easily go in Thunder without anyone being bothered by it. "Chibi" is Japanese for "small person", and doesn't warrant a type of it's own in any way possible.

 

TL;DR: Fake Types are completely unnecessary and prove no point. Everything that can be encompassed by a Fake Type can easily be covered by an existing Type, and therefore make use of existing support.

 

Inb4whydon'tyoulockthisthen: It's a discussion, and it shall remain open.

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Mad Puppet has a unique storyline behind it, thats the only reason it counts. Here I go again explaining Inventors, Inventors are Human/ Humanoids that use Science and Matematics to build Machines. They posses no dark arts (rules out fiend), Aren't divine or have wings or anything associated with that kind of thing (bye bye fairy), and don't use Magic (no more Spellcaster). Also Magical Scientist, key word is Magical, Inventor = No magic.

 

Plasma includes Ectoplasimic as well, and Ectoplasmic is ghosts. Ghost are Undead so thats why. Chibi can fit into several Categories depending on the Pic, therefore they can't all fit into one type. Example: A Chibi Spellcaster who combines the use of Blade and Magic, Which is he a Spellcaster, or a Warrior?

 

Also if you don't like Fake Types, then you don't have to read this. This is a guide for people who want to know how to make the best Fake Types possible.

[Dark]

Either way, having a fake type in your card doesn't make it any more realistic. And stupid fake types are just... stupid.

 

Out of everything in your first post, the only one I'd actually be happy to see is Plasma. All of the others either sound stupid or are stupid.

 

But, if you are making this guide, make sure to say that Angel and Demon are, in fact, types, because they are the Japanese counterparts of Fairy and Fiend.

[Sploda]

@Dark

Noted. Also these aren't meant to make the cards realistic, its to show people how to make the best Fake Type possible.

[Umbra]

Types only categorize monsters - they don't define them. A card doesn't need to have a specific effect or work in a specific way just because it has this or that type. "Mad Puppet" qualifies as Machine-type' date=' the same way some of the Inpachi cards do, and "Inventor" could easily fall under Fairy / Spellcaster / Fiend depending on it's allegiance.

 

Your "decent" fake types make even less sense: "Plasma" is a form of energy, not something that one would associate with Zombies, and would easily go in Thunder without anyone being bothered by it. "Chibi" is Japanese for "small person", and doesn't warrant a type of it's own in any way possible.

 

TL;DR: Fake Types are completely unnecessary and prove no point. Everything that can be encompassed by a Fake Type can easily be covered by an existing Type, and therefore make use of existing support.

 

Inb4whydon'tyoulockthisthen: It's a discussion, and it shall remain open.

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Mad Puppet has a unique storyline behind it, thats the only reason it counts. Here I go again explaining Inventors, Inventors are Human/ Humanoids that use Science and Matematics to build Machines. They posses no dark arts (rules out fiend), Aren't divine or have wings or anything associated with that kind of thing (bye bye fairy), and don't use Magic (no more Spellcaster). Also Magical Scientist, key word is Magical, Inventor = No magic.

 

Plasma includes Ectoplasimic as well, and Ectoplasmic is ghosts. Ghost are Undead so thats why. Chibi can fit into several Categories depending on the Pic, therefore they can't all fit into one type. Example: A Chibi Spellcaster who combines the use of Blade and Magic, Which is he a Spellcaster, or a Warrior?

 

Also if you don't like Fake Types, then you don't have to read this. This is a guide for people who want to know how to make the best Fake Types possible.

 

1. If they have a story behind them, they should be an Archetype rather than a Type. Again, a Type is a category based on appearance and abilities, not something that serves as a personal storyteller.

 

2. So, you suggest that a Type should be created for everything that isn't directly covered by existing Types? Should there be a Blacksmith-type and a Farmer-type? Besides, if Inventors use Machines as their main method of attacking, the Machines are a part of the monster - the monster can easily be a Machine. In addition, why would a person that does combat by non-magical means not be Warrior-type?

 

3. Plasma and Ectoplasm are two entirely different things, and are covered by Thunder and Zombie, respectively.

Plasma

Ectoplasm

 

4. Why would Chibis need to be in one Type, now again? If you desperately need to create support for cards with a special kind of image, then turn them into an Archetype. Archetypes are less permanent and doesn't affect the game as much as a Type does. See Breaker the Magical Warrior or Dark Paladin for your example.

 

5. My argument is that there is no such thing as a good Fake Type, and that they should be avoided at all costs.

[Sploda]

Inventors don't use Machines as their primary means of attack, thats just what an Inventor does. He/She Builds things. They aren't trained to fight, they can just defend themselves when necessary (kind of like someone who is geting mugged defends themselves). Also not everyone knows or cares about the diffrence between Plasma and Ectoplasim, so just using Plasma makes things easier. Not everyone likes Archetypes and Some people want the kind of impact a Types have.

 

My final point is that none of thee cards affect the game, so your Archetype arguement in #4 is invalid. If these cards affected the game, we all would be getting paychecks from Konami.

 

Well then you don't have to look at them and you don't have to read this guide. I'm not going to use my time trying to convince you since your already set in your ways.

[Dark]

Yes, but you cannot force upon us to like these fake types.

 

So, if we are rating cards, and we call them stupid, that damn Fake Type Alliance better not give us shit.

[DL]

This is a truly good guide to what separates bad from good from incredible when it comes to types.

 

In any case, In the end, it's all for fun, and in no way affects our lives, so I don't see anything wrong with fake types. Now, if they somehow were to like reduce the real types to a minority, then it'd be odd.

 

Chibis also don't HAVE to use spells and swords and all that. They can use pure cuteness to lure people to their side or get their defenses down.