Lets Play a Game YCM

[Willieh]

And what if I paused the game' date=' in the Mario example? I feel that's a better representation of freezing time, as you are literally stopping the counter. Mario cannot move while the game is paused, nor can the enemies move, nor can the counter move. Thus, when the game is paused, time is frozen until the game is unpaused. And once it is unpaused, Mario starts in the same location where he was before. And so do all the enemies. And everything is unchanged.

 

In the Icy example, it depends how you measure time. If you consider "time" as being measured by, let's say, a stopwatch, then it took me 0 seconds to place the glass on Icy's head. If you consider time as not being measured, then how can any time pass by, ever?

 

I guess the Icy example was pretty shitty, as I was moving in it. I stole it from a sci-fi movie.

 

What my main argument is, is that if you were able to freeze time, and unfreeze it "50 years later", everything would remain unchanged. Thus, time would not have passed by.

 

Again, what does Icy mean by "50 years later"? Time is frozen. :/

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I think that I'm confusing people with my hard-to-explain argument. Let's put it this way. If you pause the video game, then the counter on the game stops. But in real life, there is still a time frame measuring the amount of time that game is paused. And if you pause real life, there will still be a time frame beyond physical reality measuring the amount of time we've been paused.

 

50 years would still pass. Nothing would happen during those years though.

[Dark]

Does theoretical science have a shitload of contradictions? Because this is one.

 

If you say that time is frozen, how does any amount of time pass by?

 

Going back to my Mario example. Let's assume the world was a big Mario game. If the game was paused, the counter will not go down.

 

But your example says that when the game is paused, the counter goes down by 50 seconds. Does 50 seconds pass by?

 

Yes and no.

 

When the game is paused, the time cannot pass by. So no.

 

But you outright stated that the counter goes down by 50. So 50 seconds MUST HAVE passed by.

 

Yo soy confuzzled.

[Willieh]

Does theoretical science have a shitload of contradictions? Because this is one.

 

If you say that time is frozen' date=' how does any amount of time pass by?

 

Going back to my Mario example. Let's assume the world was a big Mario game. If the game was paused, the counter will not go down.

 

But your example says that when the game is paused, the counter goes down by 50 seconds. Does 50 seconds pass by?

 

Yes and no.

 

When the game is paused, the time cannot pass by. So no.

 

But you outright stated that the counter goes down by 50. So 50 seconds MUST HAVE passed by.

 

Yo soy confuzzled.

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No. Here's what I'm saying. In real life, you can't pause the counter. You can stop everything, but time will still technically progress, regardless of whether or not anything happens. I was saying that even though Mario was paused, he was paused for a certain amount of time. Regardless of whether or not the counter was moving, because in Mario the counter is just another part of the game. In real life, time is completely separate from physical reality.

[Dark]

Essentially, you are saying that time continously moves throughout the universe.

 

And if time was ever frozen, it'd be frozen for a period of time. Which is where I get lost. If time really was frozen, how is time supposed to "move"?

 

Unless the "time"s are different.

[Willieh]

Essentially' date=' you are saying that time continously moves throughout the universe.

 

And if time was ever frozen, it'd be frozen for a period of time. Which is where I get lost. If time really was frozen, how is time supposed to "move"?

 

Unless the "time"s are different.

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No. I'm saying you can't freeze time, because it's not a physical object. You can't freeze something that doesn't exist...

[Guest JoshIcy]

Heh... Here's something for you then.

 

Time is the name given to what would be considered, "How long it takes this object to get from here to there, including a stationary object".

[Dark]

So what the hell is this topic about? :/

 

We are trying to perform an action that is impossible by any means. Nor will we ever get the technology to perform such an action. I understand you like speculative thinking, Icy, but there cannot be a correct or wrong answer here, as all theories are null and void because it's not possible.

[Willieh]

Heh... Here's something for you then.

 

Time is the name given to what would be considered' date=' "How long it takes this object to get from here to there, including a stationary object".

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It'd be the same.

 

Time is a measurement of distance. The answer for a stationary object would be "forever." And forever is an infinite amount of time. Meaning that time is still moving.

[Guest JoshIcy]

No. You're being shallow minded. There are theories that get infinitely close, rather than infinitely far from the answer. Your goal is to reach the former.

 

EDIT: Willieh, that was only said to open minds that time is not a manmade concept. But rather, a name given to a preexisting one.

[Willieh]

So what the hell is this topic about? :/

 

We are trying to perform an action that is impossible by any means. Nor will we ever get the technology to perform such an action. I understand you like speculative thinking' date=' Icy, [b']but there cannot be a correct or wrong answer here, as all theories are null and void because it's not possible.[/b]

 

Exactly what I've been trying to say. In ANY scenario, you wouldn't be able to stop time.

[Yankee]

Right...My idea...

 

 

I'd imagine that, if this is all theoretical, that our perception of time would be the only thing to stop. Thinking about it..we have been taught all our lives that time moves in one and only one way, and apparently, only if matter keeps moving however if matter actually stops moving time still keeps going..as there technically would be a amount of time that said matter stopped moving.

[The Borg]

Time would have gone on. Energy would still be made so time would go on.

[Willieh]

No. You're being shallow minded. There are theories that get infinitely close' date=' rather than infinitely far from the answer. Your goal is to reach the former.

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... How am I being shallow-minded?

 

You're proposing something that is impossible in any given scenario.

[Guest JoshIcy]

No. You're being shallow minded. There are theories that get infinitely close' date=' rather than infinitely far from the answer. Your goal is to reach the former.

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... How am I being shallow-minded?

 

You're proposing something that is impossible in any given scenario.

 

Not you. Dark.

And your answers have gotten infinitely close, as I described. So has Akiras. As has now Yankees.

[The Borg]

How is my answer?

[Limited Edition KING]

My answer

 

Time would not have moved forward at all because time would stop for 50yrs and at the end of those 50yrs the time would return to normal for example if time were to stop for 50yrs tomorrow then the calander would stay at the same date and won't move until the end of the 50yrs

[Yankee]

Wait a second..(excuse the pun)

I had a big thought..o.o

 

We have been taught that time is dependant on things like matter. What happens..say..if we make time the independant? As little as it sounds, it's a giant thing. If time is INdependant, then it actually becomes God. While to us, time would seem to stop, we would no longer see, or feel time..Time would continue to just.."be". Nothing we do can and ever would affect it. If time "stops", we would simply just no longer be able to notice it anymore. We simply would no longer perceeve (sp?) times passage. However, time would still keep going, as there would be an amount of time sense it had "stopped".

 

Correct?

[Guest JoshIcy]

... So far Yankee is winning.

[Dark]

then it [time] actually becomes God

 

Explain. To me, at this moment, this makes no sense whatsoever.

[Willieh]

... So far Yankee is winning.

 

Yankee said the same thing as me...

 

I don't see how he's winning when I was the first one to bring the idea out. >=/

[Yankee]

then it [time] actually becomes God

 

Explain. To me' date=' at this moment, this makes no sense whatsoever.

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Nothing we can, and ever will affect it. No matter what happens, literally nothing can "stop" time. It will continue to just.."be".

[Dark]

Willieh said that first. :/

 

That's essentially exactly what he explained to me.

[Guest JoshIcy]

... So far Yankee is winning.

 

Yankee said the same thing as me...

 

I don't see how he's winning when I was the first one to bring the idea out. >=/

 

Subtle Nuances. But yeah... You're right (went to go reread). So Yankee and Willieh in the running.

[Dark]

No. You're being shallow minded. There are theories that get infinitely close, rather than infinitely far from the answer. Your goal is to reach the former.

 

What answer? We've already established a correct answer does not exist, so you cannot get closer or farther away from a non-existant "thing".

 

This entire thread is based on speculation of an impossible event. None of these theories can be right, nor can they be wrong. Because the basis of the theories is impossible anyway.

 

So I'm confused as to why you judged Willieh's and Yankee's answers as "in the running", while XYZ member's answer is not in the running. Both are the exact same distance from a non-existant answer.

 

Maybe I'm overthinking this.

[The Borg]

Can I change my answer?