Lets Play a Game YCM

[Willieh]

I'm not really sure how to further what I've already said.

[Dark]

I'm not really sure how to further what I've already said.

 

You can always provide another answer which will be as viable as your current answer.

[The_Prince_of_Death]

If time were to stop (or for you Science Junkies matter to stop moving), for what would be considered 50yrs. Would time have moved forward at all?

 

 

hmmm. Well it depends on what you mean by time stopping, and for who it is stopping. If Time were to stop for everyone for exactly 50 years, time itself has aged but we have not since time didn't affect us except for when it stopped and when it restarted. Although there could be the possibility that we aged 50 years as time restarted itself. If it were for one person alone, would that person dissaper for 50 years and reappear? would that person be frozen still not ageing for those 50 years? So many questions, so many possibilities.

[έκλειψη]

Time is considered the fourth dimension.

 

Using this logic, if all matter, which, as far as we know, effects all dimensions somehow, the only things not doing so being lines, which aren't physically manifested since they are 1-dimensional, the flow of time itself would stop moving. I think time could be identified as the units of whatever dimension an item has existed, or left it's mark in. If the time flow stopped, there would be no such thing as fifty years, and the pause would remain forever.

 

It would remain forever if you were trying to wait fifty years in a place where time no longer existed, that is.

 

To better get a visualization of this, let's think of time as a dry erase board that goes onwards indefinitely.

Every incidence in which something comes into existence, a new marker, of a color unlike any other marker, is placed on the board. Now the board starts moving. This movement will be known as the human conception of 'Time'.

Now, it this dry erase board moves when a marker is placed on something, as long as that board moves, the marker will leave a streak on the board. It can also be assumed that if motion was non-existent when there were no markers on the board, that the board will only move if markers are on the board.

When markers are removed (things no longer exist, or at least not in the same form), the board continues to move as long as other markers are there. The streaks left behind by other markers that are no longer on the board are called 'history'.

 

Now, let's get to the question.

 

What if all matter stopped moving?!

 

Well, time is a concept, thus, if all mater stopped moving, there would be no possible way to measure time; no possible way to conceive the idea of time.

 

The items still exist, yet with no possible way to measure they length of their existence, the dry erase board disappears.

 

With no dry erase board, the markers simply do nothing. Time doesn't exist, thus measuring the time things were frozen doesn't work.

 

Something could move and create a method of measuring time, returning the dry erase board, however... Then time would once again exist.

 

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I can't really express my thoughts on this. I have such a huge idea, but I can't get it our right...

[chairman ali]

If time were to stop (or for you Science Junkies matter to stop moving), for what would be considered 50yrs. Would time have moved forward at all?

 

Firstly, if time would stop lets say relative to myself, it will not be halted relative to someone else. I may experience a stop in time but someone else wouldnt and the 50 years will pass like nothing has happened. Time cannot stop it can slow down, strongly, and this happens inside a black holes and if you'd survive a trip into a black hole you'll be very lucky.

 

For example; the theory of relativity, ure on a plane, to you the plane is stationary nothing is moving but to the person outside relative to you the plane will be moving. Here I am considering a stop in the motion of matter relative to one another but considering a stop in time is the exact same thing, i am just swapping the dimensions looked at.

 

We can then measure a halt in time not necessarily through the subatomic structure of the atoms but by using a radioactive source, measuring its half life and this will identify if time has passed for 50 years or if it has slowed down or even stopped.

[Alex DeLarge]

has anyone even looked at what I said

[Christian Exodia]

How is my answer, Icy?

[Dweller of Parables]

This thread is totally biased...

[έκλειψη]

How is it biased?

[Dweller of Parables]

You'll eventually come to find out as I did.

Until Icy sees a logical explanation...make mine Marvel.

[Guest Welche]

The funny thing is that if time stops, we won't notice.

[έκλειψη]

You're right... After all, we can only think* due to motion. Time could have paused many a time without ever being detected.

[Lawliet L. Ryuzaki]

How to stop time: break a watch

[♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥]

How would we know?

[έκλειψη]

You'll eventually come to find out as I did.

Until Icy sees a logical explanation...make mine Marvel.

 

Oh.

*Sniffle*

I attempted to approach it in a logical manner.

I'll stop posting here now; I posted my idea, and I don't want to start spamming this thread.

[Encalade Shinamisu]

Willieh, you're mostly bombing on other people's theories.

 

They do have different variations too.

 

Regardless, in more simple terms of what I said earlier, because I had asked Icy what he thought of my theory at one point:

 

Humans created the concept of time.

 

Time is used as a measure to scale and tell another how long ago something was or how far forward something is going to be.

 

Since it is only a concept, and because humans determine it, time cannot be paused by simply having Matter stop moving.

 

If 50 years have passed in human time, then a Human had to have witnessed those 50 years pass by. This means that by any standards, time did not stop.

 

Humans created time and determine it. If someone finds out 50 years are passing by, that's how much time passed.

 

It's also like this:

 

If a man is cut off from society for 12 years, how will he know?

 

Time has moved forward, but he doesn't know how much time.

[RAEGING D0GKING]

If time stopped and the whole world stopped after the 50 yrs you wouldn't notice anything and you wouldn't even know that it stopped. An example is when you sleep it feels like not even a minute passed. This would be the same with time and you wouldn't even notice. Everything would be the same. But if all Human minds stopped still the world would move and you could even wake up after 50 yrs in snow. So if time stopped you wouldn't even notice even if it was for 5 million years.

[Willieh]

Willieh' date=' you're mostly bombing on other people's theories.

 

They do have different variations too.

 

Regardless, in more simple terms of what I said earlier, because I had asked Icy what he thought of my theory at one point:

 

Humans created the concept of time.

 

Time is used as a measure to scale and tell another how long ago something was or how far forward something is going to be.

 

Since it is only a concept, and because humans determine it, time cannot be paused by simply having Matter stop moving.

 

If 50 years have passed in human time, then a Human had to have witnessed those 50 years pass by. This means that by any standards, time did not stop.

 

Humans created time and determine it. If someone finds out 50 years are passing by, that's how much time passed.

 

It's also like this:

 

If a man is cut off from society for 12 years, how will he know?

 

Time has moved forward, but he doesn't know how much time.

[/quote']

 

Um. I never bombed anyone else' theories. I was just stating a fact.

 

Time will progress, regardless of whether or not people notice it's progression.

[Encalade Shinamisu]

Willieh' date=' you're mostly bombing on other people's theories.

 

They do have different variations too.

 

Regardless, in more simple terms of what I said earlier, because I had asked Icy what he thought of my theory at one point:

 

Humans created the concept of time.

 

Time is used as a measure to scale and tell another how long ago something was or how far forward something is going to be.

 

Since it is only a concept, and because humans determine it, time cannot be paused by simply having Matter stop moving.

 

If 50 years have passed in human time, then a Human had to have witnessed those 50 years pass by. This means that by any standards, time did not stop.

 

Humans created time and determine it. If someone finds out 50 years are passing by, that's how much time passed.

 

It's also like this:

 

If a man is cut off from society for 12 years, how will he know?

 

Time has moved forward, but he doesn't know how much time.

[/quote']

 

Um. I never bombed anyone else' theories. I was just stating a fact.

 

Time will progress, regardless of whether or not people notice it's progression.

 

How's about letting people say what they say instead of trying to prove it wrong then?

 

Because, the way I see it, you are simply disproving anything else someone has to say, or debasing it.

[Willieh]

Willieh' date=' you're mostly bombing on other people's theories.

 

They do have different variations too.

 

Regardless, in more simple terms of what I said earlier, because I had asked Icy what he thought of my theory at one point:

 

Humans created the concept of time.

 

Time is used as a measure to scale and tell another how long ago something was or how far forward something is going to be.

 

Since it is only a concept, and because humans determine it, time cannot be paused by simply having Matter stop moving.

 

If 50 years have passed in human time, then a Human had to have witnessed those 50 years pass by. This means that by any standards, time did not stop.

 

Humans created time and determine it. If someone finds out 50 years are passing by, that's how much time passed.

 

It's also like this:

 

If a man is cut off from society for 12 years, how will he know?

 

Time has moved forward, but he doesn't know how much time.

[/quote']

 

Um. I never bombed anyone else' theories. I was just stating a fact.

 

Time will progress, regardless of whether or not people notice it's progression.

 

How's about letting people say what they say instead of trying to prove it wrong then?

 

Because, the way I see it, you are simply disproving anything else someone has to say, or debasing it.

 

You know, you're absolutely right. Why on earth did I make the mistake of disagreeing with someone in a thread debating a topic?

 

Perhaps we should all hold hands.

[Encalade Shinamisu]

I'm not trying to get into a conflict, but I don't recall this being under the debate section. It's under General. If someone posts a theory, leave them be, and let the person who created the thread and the following readers be the judge.

[MarbleZone]

If "time" stopped for 50 years, and "resumed" afterwards, then... 50 years passed. No way around it.

 

I.e.: from the moment you set a beginning point for something, time passes. Whichever method you use to count "time", by its very definition, from the moment you set a marker, "time" exists. It becomes all the more obvious when you set two markers, beginning and end, effectively defining a period. Regardless of whether there is an observer, if something can "start" and "end", then there is always "time".

[BehindTheMask]

FIRSTLY:

 

Time would have gone on. Energy would still be made so time would go on.

 

Okay' date=' how did anyone NOT call you on this? Energy cannot be created or destroyed.

 

SECONDLY:

 

If time were to stop (or for you Science Junkies matter to stop moving), for what would be considered 50yrs. Would time have moved forward at all?

 

Time is a measure of the position of matter, relative to each other. If all matter stopped moving(by being at 0 Kelvin), then nothing would have changed. In order for there to be "time" there has to be movement. Also, there cannot be any "time stops"(all matter being at 0 Kelvin), because Temperature is a measure of energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, ergo, this scenario is impossible.

 

Even if it was possible, there is only one solution, and that is to say that time has NOT moved. To say that "time has stopped" and "time has moved" is to create a LOGICAL IMPOSSIBILITY.

[Willieh]

I'm not trying to get into a conflict' date=' but I don't recall this being under the debate section. It's under General. If someone posts a theory, leave them be, and let the person who created the thread and the following readers be the judge.

[/quote']

 

It's clearly a topic that's up for debate.

 

Go cry some more.

[Alex DeLarge]

you know what, forget my theory, I got a new one.

 

If time stops then it can't move forward because it has stopped