MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 It works perfectly in MtG - when it leaves the field, the game state is verified and if win conditions are met, they resolve. It simply puts a freeze on win conditions while it's out. Should spark some heated discussions against an Exodia player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolta Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hold on... This card is queer, thus I shall not rate it. OK, I don't know if this works with autodrawcards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMMYTRON Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 wait...huh...card=huh?!?idk if i should rate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Yes, that's what I thought when I first saw a similar card in MtG. But after playing with it, it's actually terribly simple. You keep playing when LP reaches 0, alternate win conditions aren't activated, you don't lose by deckout. It simply says "ignore any situation where you would lose while this card is out, and keep playing". The card goes away, you check your status, and if you were supposed to be dead then you die. Didn't remember anyone making one of these here, so I tried to see if I could shake things up a bit. Could care less about ratings at this point in my "card making career", I retired from being awesome. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hold on... This card is queer' date=' thus I shall not rate it.[/quote'] You know, you're queer for saying that something is queer.. And, holy sheet, Blackwind, you're back! =D On topic: Decent card, probably only useful if you got some stall set up or something like that, it's fairly easy to get rid of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyire Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Draw creator. Not a fan of them. Good picture, though. 3/5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 only useful if you got some stall set up or something like that' date=' it's fairly easy to get rid of this.[/quote'] Thank God somebody got to it before the "ridiculously OP" wave. The resources you must waste to keep it alive largely offset the benefit - it dies to any and all sorts of removal and aggro just stomps it like it's not even there. This is pretty much eye-candy. Not that it isn't useful, just not terribly so. Then again, having been away for so long, I may be missing an obvious degenerate combo that sends this straight to the banlist, but I can't remember any. Also... I'll have to ask your previous username - don't remember anybody going by that name before I left ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeonark Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 "The game...I can't lose it." -Card That's basically what it's saying. xD Depending on what monsters are sent to the Graveyard, this could be good or bad for you. I can't tell what you mean by the OCG. Do you mean as long as he's on the field, you can't lose? Or do you mean you can't lose as long as he's in the game? If you mean the first one, I think this is the fix:When this monster is Special Summoned' date=' send all other cards you control to the Graveyard. As long as this card remains on the field, you cannot lose the duel and your opponent cannot win the duel.[/quote'] Or something close.9/10 Welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Right, it's duel, not game! Damn it, MtG. I'm gonna fix it... man, I'm rusty. :P I mean you cannot lose while it's face-up on the field, but I seem to remember "While this card is face-up on the field" is old OCG... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zeonark Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Right' date=' it's duel, not game! Damn it, MtG. I'm gonna fix it... man, I'm rusty. :P I mean you cannot lose while it's face-up on the field, but I seem to remember "While this card is face-up on the field" is old OCG... :/[/quote'] "As long as this card remains on the field" is the new OCG I think. But everyone here takes it either way really. New or Old with this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Actually, if you look at Dimension Fortress Weapon, from Crimson Crisis: The effect only applies Weapon remains face-up on the field, so apparently it is now implied and "while face-up on the field" has indeed been discarded. If it changed after Crimson Crisis than I apologize, that was the last set I played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DOOM Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think "while face-up on the field" is not needed. But it is not wrong. to the card:I just don't like this kind of effects >_< And i find this card rather UP. I only see disadvantages in using this card, except Exodia, final Countdown etc of course. pic is ok. 7/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hm, maybe the Special Summon clause isn't needed for balancing - the card isn't gamebreaking per se and doesn't need that sort of drawback.Removed. On a side-note, he's compatible with Allure and Trade-In. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 This card has two problems: - If you Deck out against a Stall deck while this card is on the filed the situation would frce your opponent to deck out himself, and that's simply not fair.- "You cannot lose the game and your opponent cannot win the game": isn't half of the effect useless? I mean, if you cannot lose, of course your oppoennt cannot win! It makes no sense putting it in twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 This card has two problems: - If you Deck out against a Stall deck while this card is on the filed the situation would frce your opponent to deck out himself' date=' and that's simply not fair.- "You cannot lose the game and your opponent cannot win the game": isn't half of the effect useless? I mean, if you cannot lose, of course your oppoennt cannot win! It makes no sense putting it in twice.[/quote'] Not sure on that, really. There are effects that state you "lose the game if". Other effects state you "win the game if". I worded the effect the way I did because that was how it was in the card I based myself in. However, in MtG games can be played in multiplayer, so covering that was a necessity. Not sure in Yugioh, since yes, one thing implies the other. I'll change it, but I'm still unsure on that. As it is, you're probably right. As for the Stall deck, well, that's their problem and my win condition in that case. It's like saying it's unfair to run Prime Material Dragon if the opponent is playing Burn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ryder Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 "As long as this card remains face-up on the field" should be a good fix. Fix: As long as this card remains face-up on the field, you cannot lose the duel and your opponent cannot win the duel. I'm not sure if duel is capitalized or not. But doesn't this mean the "your opponent cannot win the duel" is considered useless? It could just be - As long as this card remains face-up on the field, your opponent cannot win the duel/you cannot lose the duel (select from either). Meh, 8.4/10 Short effect, but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 At the very least write "As long as this card remains face up on the field" before the 1st sentence very boring effect anyway 8.3/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 In paper, yes. Getting it out and protecting it is challenging but allows for a bunch of weird combos to actually go off before you're stomped. Trust me, I've tried it. ;) Besides... I always wanted to make a one-liner, and I feel this one's tough to evaluate properly. I already got a lot of replies for a card with 1 line of text; it's a change from the huge effects I used to make. This one's built to make you guys read the card in 30 seconds and think about it for 5 minutes, not the other way around like the majority. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DOOM Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 read the card in 30 seconds and think about it for 5 minutes' date=' not the other way around like the majority. :P[/quote'] more people should think like you! a wonderful quote!^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Well, nobody really takes 30 seconds to read a line of text, nor 5 minutes to realize how it works, but I think people understand where I'm getting at here. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon™ Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Lol put up Level Limit - Area B and that thing thats a spell with a castle as the pic, oh and that fusion monster that the material monsters are Buster Blader and Dark Magician = epic win, that is, if you have the right offence. ^^Ok might be gayest post ever but there it is. uhm, 7.3/10 Enough with the discussion... Or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Platinum Angel Wants a word with you here..............XD Interestin Something Like that should be real It would be nice to have sothing like that around...XD And Hurray for Short yet consistent effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon™ Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Well, unless Konami makes a card that says: "As long as this card remains face-up on the field, effects that involve winning or losing the duel are negated." Hmmmm, maybe I should make something like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Platinum Angel Wants a word with you here..............XD Yup, exactly where I took the inspiration from; it's been around forever in Magic, but no such effect ever popped up in YGO, so I decided to adapt it and see the reactions. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG ROD Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 y not As long as this card is face-up on the field neither player can win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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