Burning Plants? [Lexadin]

[Lexadin]

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I once noticed, there are hardly any Plant-Type's that can burn. So I decided to make 1 myself.

 

This card cannot be Special Summoned. Each time a Plant-Type monster is Summoned, inflict damage to your opponent equal to the Summoned monster's Level x 200. This card's ATK cannot be changed by Field Spell Cards. When this is the only monster on your side of the field, it can attack all of your opponent's monsters once.

Pic's from Google Img.

 

Rate/Hate/fix

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[gustavosuarez]

interesting card with a useful effect. i like it:) 9/10

[Metal Skull]

Nice pic!

Seems ok in terms of effects, it prevents the it's ATK reducing from Black Garden, which is cool.

OCG seems fine.

8.8/10

[Lexadin]

Thanks to both. And Shadow, I was aiming for that.

[JG.]

Icwutyudidthar.

 

Seems quite nice and balanced. Pic is also quite good. 8.2/10.

[Shinobi Phoenix]

Since you obviously put the "ATK change" part for Black Garden, I should warn you that won't work against Black Garden because Black Garden HALVES ATK, not decreases. If you want it to work the way you think, say "The ATK of this card is unaffected by the effects of Field Magic cards."

 

 

 

It looks fine on paper, but I think it would need to be playtested on YVD for balance. I can already see how a duel with this would go. I think this would be a problem with Lonefire Blossom (that card is a new problem all over the place for getting new plant monsters). You could run through your whole Deck of Plants and kill someone in one turn. GIVEN you will need at least 3 monsters (a random Plant, this guy and Lonefire), but that can be done with anything, even tokens.

 

 

Summon or already control this guy, Summon Lonefire Blossom. Spam out LV 8 monsters until you run out and that will inflict 1600 damage EACH time in one turn. Assuming you control one other plant, you can spam out Titania's for 4800 and keep going with other minor plants (including your other Blossoms). GIVEN you'll need like 3 monsters to start this off, but that is OTK in of itself when you do. Even Lonefire itself will deal 600 damage with this.

[OK_GO_Charizard]

Burning plants? Now I've seen everything! 8.5/10

[Cloister]

This is a good card.

It's low ATK balances its strong effect out very well

Last effect I would never use unless you opponent had like 400 ATK monsters

But good way to inflict damage in a Plant-Deck

8/10 (not the most creative, but very good Plant support)

[Shinobi Phoenix]

This is a good card.

It's low ATK balances its strong effect out very well

Last effect I would never use unless you opponent had like 400 ATK monsters

But good way to inflict damage in a Plant-Deck

8/10 (not the most creative' date=' but very good Plant support)

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Low ATK doesn't matter when a card can OTK.

[Cloister]

This is a good card.

It's low ATK balances its strong effect out very well

Last effect I would never use unless you opponent had like 400 ATK monsters

But good way to inflict damage in a Plant-Deck

8/10 (not the most creative' date=' but very good Plant support)

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Low ATK doesn't matter when a card can OTK.

 

Well, this card is balanced because of it's low ATK

would this card be balanced with 2400 ATK?

[Shinobi Phoenix]

This is a good card.

It's low ATK balances its strong effect out very well

Last effect I would never use unless you opponent had like 400 ATK monsters

But good way to inflict damage in a Plant-Deck

8/10 (not the most creative' date=' but very good Plant support)

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Low ATK doesn't matter when a card can OTK.

 

Well, this card is balanced because of it's low ATK

would this card be balanced with 2400 ATK?

 

You're missing the point of the ATK being irrelevant. The effect is the issue. It could be 0, you won't care about the 0 ATK if you are on the receiving end. Claiming it's balanced because the ATK is low is just silly. Look at everything. A smart player isn't summoning this for the beat power even if it had that much more power as long as it has that effect anyway. Beat power has to watch out for backfield more often than burn power.

 

 

If this was reversed and the effect sucked, but it had high ATK power, it would be still be a whole other conversation. There would be far more risk involved and everyone would be saying it sucked.

[Cloister]

yayay, you're right, but the effect isn't THAT powerful except for the FSP effect (though powerful enough to be dangerous)

Though the burn effect is strong since you would not run this in a non-Plant Deck and since it can attack all monsters during the same turn, it would be a beast with "Black Garden" if it had more than 2000 ATK, since "Black Garden" summons a Token to the opponent's side of the field with 800 ATK each time a Plant-Type monster is Summoned

so if yopu keep Summoning monsters and then destroys them, you would eventully win

(That's why the ATK in this case is relevant)

[-Griffin]

I'd like to point out to Shinobi that Lonefire's effect is Once Per Turn IIRC.

 

If you fix it to actually work with Black Garden, it could be interesting for a fun casual Plant Deck - until then, it feels UP'd.

[guy22]

its a cool pic and a good effect. Well done

[Shinobi Phoenix]

I'd like to point out to Shinobi that Lonefire's effect is Once Per Turn IIRC.

 

If you fix it to actually work with Black Garden' date=' it could be interesting for a fun casual Plant Deck - until then, it feels UP'd.

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Not in sequence it's not. Lonefire using itself and the standard Plant recycle.

 

Even without the standard recycle. Lonefire to Lonefire to Lonefire to Titania.

 

(3 + 3 + 3 + 8)200 = 3200

[Sander]

I'd like to point out to Shinobi that Lonefire's effect is Once Per Turn IIRC.

 

If you fix it to actually work with Black Garden' date=' it could be interesting for a fun casual Plant Deck - until then, it feels UP'd.

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Not in sequence it's not. Lonefire using itself and the standard Plant recycle.

 

Even without the standard recycle. Lonefire to Lonefire to Lonefire to Titania.

 

(3 + 3 + 3 + 8)200 = 3200

 

You do remember that Lonefire is Semi-Limited, rite?

[Shinobi Phoenix]

I'd like to point out to Shinobi that Lonefire's effect is Once Per Turn IIRC.

 

If you fix it to actually work with Black Garden' date=' it could be interesting for a fun casual Plant Deck - until then, it feels UP'd.

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Not in sequence it's not. Lonefire using itself and the standard Plant recycle.

 

Even without the standard recycle. Lonefire to Lonefire to Lonefire to Titania.

 

(3 + 3 + 3 + 8)200 = 3200

 

You do remember that Lonefire is Semi-Limited, rite?

 

Irrelevant.

 

If we were having this conversation on the previous list, it wouldn't make a difference on how this effect can work or how many ways one can make it OTK.

 

 

It's just like how many cards that exist now remain the reason that certain cards are banned or restricted even with so many ways to stop them now.

[Fish ~]

It is an interesting card. The picture is as well great, I like it. Really hard to see Burning Plants. I think that in the last sentence you should have said "... once each time". Yeah, but not really sure.

 

8/10

[ragnarok1945]

very impressive plant support

 

I don't see anything wrong with the OCG, has a very neat burn effect

 

and with its 1300 atk for lv6, it balances it out quite well

 

8.9/10

[Lexadin]

Thanks for all of your comments, I've updated the Lore to fit with Black Garden.

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[Raphidra]

Nice! Pic is very good and I like the concept of them effect.^^

[raymond5577]

It's good, really good 9.5/10 XD

[Lexadin]

Thanks to both.