Duelling with your cards – The Card Testing and Custom Format Thread

[-Griffin]

Many people in Realistic Cards would love to duel with their cards. But they can't. I'm the former owner of the YCCG, an attempt at making a format of entirely custom cards. Cards had to be approved, and were put into sets before people duelled with them. That meant that it took a long time to get from a card posted to a card used, and many cards could never be used at all because only the best cards for the game were used.

 

On top of that, creating an entirely new format ended up playing so differently from Yugioh's TCG or OCG that people often drifted away because they preferred Yugioh as it was to our game of entirely different concepts, staples and balance levels.

 

But I'm sure many people will still want to duel with their custom cards, this is my idea to make it possible. I plan to stop commenting on a card's balance from my knowledge, and instead try to duel with it when I can, and this is encouraging other people to as well. Many people here know of YVD, for those that don't, here's a link. It's a duel simulator with all OCG and TCG Cards. I propose that anyone who's interested in duelling with their cards put [Duel] into the title of their thread, and anyone who is up to take the challenge can PM them, or post in the thread so that they can set up a duel in YVD.

 

For smaller number of cards, it can easily be done by proxying. The card is just represented by another card already in the TCG, which both players agree on before the duel starts. This way, members can duel instantly without having to convert their cards to YVD format and without either player editing their ".set" file.

 

For larger numbers of cards, the cards can be put into part of the .set file, and left their or removed at the end of the duel. To do this you can use this program. Or just copy and edit lines from the .set file that comes with YVD. To edit the .set, open it in something like Notepad or Wordpad.

 

I'm hoping that this much quicker way of getting your cards into a duel will encourage people to have a lot of fun with the custom cards created here and also help give some members a better understanding of balance by seeing how cards really work out when used in a duel.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Stuck.

[.Leo]

Win Thread is Win.

 

This is gonna be so much fun :]

[G-Break]

if we duel with anyone who has their set, and we don't have their set, when duel, the card must be shown "Card Not Found" or etc.

so how to fix it?

me and my opponent need to exchange card set? or how?

[-Griffin]

Like I said, proxy cards for the most part, exchange sets if you really need to.

[chrid97]

So when I opened up this

"YVD 9.0 - Play Yugioh Online with this sucker! Use this copies for Windows."

it said

 

To open this file, Windows needs to know what program you want to use to open it. Windows can go online to look it up automatically, or you can manually select from a list of programs that are installed on your computer.

What do you wnat to do?

Use the Web service to find the correct program

Select a program from a list of installed programs

 

Which do I pick

[-Griffin]

It should open automatically, since it didn't, just use the .zip version directly below it, that still works for Windows.

[G-Break]

question..

on CCG set 3..

will there an archtype from YCM members?

i mean, all member that wanna use their card can post it, without balancing and then make them all into .set?

or it will need a vote or something else?

[-Griffin]

question..

on CCG set 3..

will there an archtype from YCM members?

i mean' date=' all member that wanna use their card can post it, without balancing and then make them all into .set?

or it will need a vote or something else?

[/quote']

 

CCG? This thread is mostly about seeing the impact of cards on the TCG or OCG, which is the most stable platform we have to balance cards. If you want to make a custom set and try it in YVD, be my guest, but the amount of hassle to make it at all playable while still pleasing people means that I won't be any part of your administration.

[swimmer117]

I cannot open the .set file. I don't know where it would be so i can upload the cards.

[-Griffin]

I cannot open the .set file. I don't know where it would be so i can upload the cards.

 

It is in your YVD folder. You selected where to put it when dowloading YVD. It's probably in your C Drive/Program Files/Something.

[G-Break]

question..

on CCG set 3..

will there an archtype from YCM members?

i mean' date=' all member that wanna use their card can post it, without balancing and then make them all into .set?

or it will need a vote or something else?

[/quote']

 

CCG? This thread is mostly about seeing the impact of cards on the TCG or OCG, which is the most stable platform we have to balance cards. If you want to make a custom set and try it in YVD, be my guest, but the amount of hassle to make it at all playable while still pleasing people means that I won't be any part of your administration.

 

oh okay..

my bad..

[Chaos Flame]

Oh, since YCCG died you took it here...

I would love to use some of my custom cards.

[usetheforcehan]

Are in YVD there are program that automatically program our created cards? Or we must personally edit the program of our cards? If you don't understand what i mean, check below:

 

•For example: I created a card that can "Destroy a Slot", "Interrupt Summon" or Token Tribute".

•Can the YVD program "understand" that effects and implemented in the YVD program? Or we must input the code/programming by our self?

 

Explain please.

[Raylen]

Why is this here? Shouldn't this be in Written Cards?

[Chaos Flame]

Are in YVD there are program that automatically program our created cards? Or we must personally edit the program of our cards? If you don't understand what i mean' date=' check below:

 

•For example: I created a card that can "Destroy a Slot", "Interrupt Summon" or Token Tribute".

•Can the YVD program "understand" that effects and implemented in the YVD program? Or we must input the code/programming by our self?

 

Explain please.

 

YVD cannot be reprogrammed by just inputting the effects. If I'm correct they just recently figured out how to make convulsions of nature work. The thing about YVD is, that you have to manually do the effect of each card, it doesn't do it for you.

[-Griffin]

question..

on CCG set 3..

will there an archtype from YCM members?

i mean' date=' all member that wanna use their card can post it, without balancing and then make them all into .set?

or it will need a vote or something else?

[/quote']

 

CCG? This thread is mostly about seeing the impact of cards on the TCG or OCG, which is the most stable platform we have to balance cards. If you want to make a custom set and try it in YVD, be my guest, but the amount of hassle to make it at all playable while still pleasing people means that I won't be any part of your administration.

 

oh okay..

my bad..

 

No problem

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Oh' date=' since YCCG died you took it here...

I would love to use some of my custom cards.

[/quote']

 

Feel free, just make a topic with them and add [Duel] to the title.

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Why is this here? Shouldn't this be in Written Cards?

 

YVD has images' date=' your point is invalid.[hr']

Are in YVD there are program that automatically program our created cards? Or we must personally edit the program of our cards? If you don't understand what i mean' date=' check below:

 

•For example: I created a card that can "Destroy a Slot", "Interrupt Summon" or Token Tribute".

•Can the YVD program "understand" that effects and implemented in the YVD program? Or we must input the code/programming by our self?

 

Explain please.

 

YVD cannot be reprogrammed by just inputting the effects. If I'm correct they just recently figured out how to make convulsions of nature work. The thing about YVD is, that you have to manually do the effect of each card, it doesn't do it for you.

 

Pretty much. As long as it doesn't to anything that involves putting cards in a position they could never usually get to, it works in YVD.

[Killey]

Ah, this potentially seems a much better idea to getting things done as the previous systems took too long and by the time people could duel with the cards all interest was lost or time restrictions for other people. If everyone is capable of editing their Set files and/or creating their own images for YVD things will go a lot smoother. This could be really good for teaching balance though as sometimes you don't see how broken a card can be until you start playing with the card and see the effects first hand.

 

So is this more for dueling with thier cards and in turn teach people how their cards impact the game and how they could be broken/expolited. Is this actually going to be organized into a semi-club where the submissions are combined into one set later on or is this just a means to allow people to duel each other with their cards in a quicker manner.

[-Griffin]

Ah' date=' this potentially seems a much better idea to getting things done as the previous systems took too long and by the time people could duel with the cards all interest was lost or time restrictions for other people. If everyone is capable of editing their Set files and/or creating their own images for YVD things will go a lot smoother. This could be really good for teaching balance though as sometimes you don't see how broken a card can be until you start playing with the card and see the effects first hand.

 

So is this more for dueling with thier cards and in turn teach people how their cards impact the game and how they could be broken/expolited. Is this actually going to be organized into a semi-club where the submissions are combined into one set later on or is this just a means to allow people to duel each other with their cards in a quicker manner.

[/quote']

 

Just a system for now. When it gets working, I might work on a community booster pack.

[Killey]

Do you prefer if we created a separate thread with [DUEL] in the thread title with the set and image files or if we want can we post the .set file and image files in this thread as well. I've been doing some testing against metadecks with my own custom cards and have been tweaking the effects of balancing issues. This seems like a perfect way to get other people to comment on balancing issue with the cards.

[usetheforcehan]

Are in YVD there are program that automatically program our created cards? Or we must personally edit the program of our cards? If you don't understand what i mean' date=' check below:

 

•For example: I created a card that can "Destroy a Slot", "Interrupt Summon" or Token Tribute".

•Can the YVD program "understand" that effects and implemented in the YVD program? Or we must input the code/programming by our self?

 

Explain please.

 

YVD cannot be reprogrammed by just inputting the effects. If I'm correct they just recently figured out how to make convulsions of nature work. The thing about YVD is, that you have to manually do the effect of each card, it doesn't do it for you.

 

Another questions:

1. But if we have to manually do the effect of each card, doesn't the opponent or us can CHEATED for the card effects? Is there a Judge system by person (moderator) or AI to make the Duel fair?

2. Can we play YVD offline against AI? Or it is just exclusively to Person-2-Person Duel?

3. Can we do a Tag-Duel like in Yugioh Duel City Saga?

 

I think someone that Mastered the YVD system or has a deep knowledge to YVD created a special thread that guide us newbie to YVD. A specific one with pictures i hope.

[Killey]

YVD is just a basic person-to-person dueling interface. Everything done during the duel is done manually by the user. Meaning, drawing, shuffling, summoning, sending to the Graveyard, etc... is done by the person using the program.

 

1) It is your responsiblity to ensure you and your opponent understands the rulings of the card and if you don't you need to consult someone who does. It's exactly as if you were duelling on a Duel Monsters Unlimited or Duel Monsters Expert. Use some common sense and read your opponent's card to make sure he/she doesn't cheat. YVD is strictly peer to peer duelling meaning you and your opponent connect directly to each other so no you can't do tag duelling or have people view the duel for judging or spectating.

 

2) See 1. No AI since it's peer to peer duelling.

 

3) See 1. No Tag Duelling though the feature has been requested multiple times and may be inicluded in a future update.

 

It's best that you get the program and run it on your PC to get a feel for the interface and how the commands work. It's better to see it in action for yourself then to simply ask questions without knowing how it fully works. The interface is rather straightforward and there are a ton of shortkey combination keys to make things progress faster. It is by far the fastest duelling system out there but that's due to its simplicity.

[usetheforcehan]

Thanks Killey for the info! :D

I will try the program.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Sure. But you have to actually post the .SET file in Code (for the new cards), and then your Decklist.

To make this work, I'll allow it in RC for now. But how that'll last, no idea.

[-Griffin]

Do you prefer if we created a separate thread with [DUEL] in the thread title with the set and image files or if we want can we post the .set file and image files in this thread as well. I've been doing some testing against metadecks with my own custom cards and have been tweaking the effects of balancing issues. This seems like a perfect way to get other people to comment on balancing issue with the cards.

 

Unless it's a large amount of cards, when you can just include the code in the first post, I'd recommend using a proxy for your cards so no-one has to alter their .set files.