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This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type monster. Once per turn, when this card destroys a monster, if that monster is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card. This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card. When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes 200 points of damage x the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card.

 

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I'm unsure if there's a female term for Knight since it's a female picture (exactly what I expected from you LLD, since there's so few female warriors)

 

given that atk changing spells and traps are so common these days, this is a good idea

 

burn damage to yourself balances it out

 

9.1/10 (not as epic as your previous ones, but nevertheless impressive)

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Thanks Rag.

 

And Wicked: All cards are like this, no card works with everything. This card is playable and I doubt I need points taken off for situationalness of the card.

 

But whatever, thanks both

 

@ Zeaux: Ty ^^

 

Well I dont really think it'll be balanced if I take out the 3rd effect. Think:

 

Your opponent has a monster with Axe of Despair. You destroy it with this card. You would gain Axe of Despair giving this card 3100 ATK. Then you could destroy a monster with Lightning Blade. You gain Lightning Blade giving this card 3900 ATK.

 

Each round this card would be gaining Loads of attack (as long as your opponent uses equips)

 

This card isn't really ment for power it's ment to gain different effects to provide an advantage over the opponent while your other monsters gain power.

 

This card would be ideal in a slow deck since you could gain different effects from equips you have AND equips taken from defeated monsters while your trying to summon maybe...Gilford the Lightning. Or something just as powerful.

 

 

Although I get what your saying ^^ and I appreciate your comment :3

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Extremely under powered. Noone uses Equip Cards and for good reason. It's always a -2 to the person using them. Boosting this cards attack by stealing their equip cards is more original and nowhere near as broken as you may think it is due to how situational it'll be. Even if they steal it they can easily get rid of a beat stick via card effects. Anyone who can't handle a beat stick has built their deck entirely wrong.

 

I would have liked this card more if it just stole equip cards from your opponent. If it just burns your opponent for stealing their equips it just makes it boring and situational. It ends up as a card that noone will ever use because it's not applicable to the current meta.

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VERY UP'd. Next to useless since no Deck would seriously include this and the effect is useless against everything other than Gigavise' date=' which you wouldn't want to use this against anyway.

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Explain yourself fully. This is a broken and useless comment to me.

 

Extremely under powered. Noone uses Equip Cards and for good reason. It's always a -2 to the person using them. Boosting this cards attack by stealing their equip cards is more original and nowhere near as broken as you may think it is due to how situational it'll be. Even if they steal it they can easily get rid of a beat stick via card effects. Anyone who can't handle a beat stick has built their deck entirely wrong.

 

I would have liked this card more if it just stole equip cards from your opponent. If it just burns your opponent for stealing their equips it just makes it boring and situational. It ends up as a card that noone will ever use because it's not applicable to the current meta.

No offense to you but this whole "meta" seems like non-sense to me. (Although I see what your saying I'm just making an arguement to support my card *it's only natural*)

 

Looks such as these are ENTIRELY based off of opinion and personal experience with no factual support what so ever. Where I live' date=' tons of people use Equip Spells and for good reasons. They provide more support, they give advantages, and they are useful in general. And as I said, basing your views on cards by [b']how situational it is[/b] is a completely useless and altogether bad excuse. All cards are situational. Merely stating "This card is UP since it depends on a specific situation" is poor and vague.

 

The burn doesnt even take into effect until this card is destroyed AND its not situational in the slightest bit. If someone were to use this card they'd instantly pick up on the fact that you can trigger that bit by using Your own equips . So even if you were facing an opponent who disregards Equips, this card would still be useful since you can equip it with what would normally be useless equips so that when your opponent destroys it, they take damage.

 

So to sum that up...

This card would be used, if not for the Equip snatch effect then for the easy burn effect.

 

 

If you can counter this arguement please do so. I like learning, but dont take my replies as offensive as that will be your undoing.

 

 

 

 

After thought: Also, try looking around this forum more thuroughly. You'd understand why I created this card.

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VERY UP'd. Next to useless since no Deck would seriously include this and the effect is useless against everything other than Gigavise' date=' which you wouldn't want to use this against anyway.

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Explain yourself fully. This is a broken and useless comment to me.

 

Easiest summed up with "Killey was right".

I'll go through what I said again and explain.

"VERY UP'd" - should explain self.

"Next to useless since no Deck would seriously include this." - There are no Decks that benefit from a Warrior/Fiend and nothing specifically benefits from the rest of the effect, so no Deck would use it.

"the effect is useless against everything other than Gigavis" - Gigavis is the only even semi-competitive Deck Type that uses Equips, this card wouldn't even have an effect unless you're against them.

"which you wouldn't want to use this against anyway" - You'd only take Mark of Rose, which would mean giving this card to your opponent, or Supervis, which would mean giving them a free Summon.

 

Extremely under powered. Noone uses Equip Cards and for good reason. It's always a -2 to the person using them. Boosting this cards attack by stealing their equip cards is more original and nowhere near as broken as you may think it is due to how situational it'll be. Even if they steal it they can easily get rid of a beat stick via card effects. Anyone who can't handle a beat stick has built their deck entirely wrong.

 

I would have liked this card more if it just stole equip cards from your opponent. If it just burns your opponent for stealing their equips it just makes it boring and situational. It ends up as a card that noone will ever use because it's not applicable to the current meta.

No offense to you but this whole "meta" seems like non-sense to me. (Although I see what your saying I'm just making an arguement to support my card *it's only natural*)

 

The meta is anything but non-sense. It's a driving force of the game and without understanding it' date=' you cannot claim to understand balance.[/b']

 

Looks such as these are ENTIRELY based off of opinion and personal experience with no factual support what so ever. Where I live, tons of people use Equip Spells and for good reasons.

 

The only valid reasons for using Equips are that you're running Gigavis or can't afford better cards. The fact people in your area can't afford or build good Decks should not play a part in balancing.

 

They provide more support, they give advantages, and they are useful in general.

 

Other cards do their jobs better.

 

And as I said, basing your views on cards by how situational it is is a completely useless and altogether bad excuse. All cards are situational. Merely stating "This card is UP since it depends on a specific situation" is poor and vague.

 

Saying that a card is situational is an entirely valid point for balance. I can use my Fissure in almost any duel I'm in - it's not very situational. I could only use this against very specific Decks, or badly built ones. It is situational and I wouldn't run it because of how situational it is and unlikely to do anything.

 

The burn doesnt even take into effect until this card is destroyed AND its not situational in the slightest bit.

 

Expecting Equips is very situational.

 

If someone were to use this card they'd instantly pick up on the fact that you can trigger that bit by using Your own equips .

 

So you'd have to run a fairly bad Deck by the sound of it. Equips add inconsistencies and a Deck around this and Equips would be next-to useless.

 

So even if you were facing an opponent who disregards Equips, this card would still be useful since you can equip it with what would normally be useless equips so that when your opponent destroys it, they take damage.

 

I'd rather be using Okazi, and Okazi is AWFUL.

 

So to sum that up...

This card would be used, if not for the Equip snatch effect then for the easy burn effect.

 

It's barely any burn. It would not be used.

 

If you can counter this arguement please do so. I like learning, but don't take my replies as offensive as that will be your undoing.

 

I didn't take anything as offensive and hoped that I helped you learn about the current situation of the game. Please don't take my response as offensive either.

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VERY UP'd. Next to useless since no Deck would seriously include this and the effect is useless against everything other than Gigavise' date=' which you wouldn't want to use this against anyway.

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Explain yourself fully. This is a broken and useless comment to me.

 

Easiest summed up with "Killey was right".

I'll go through what I said again and explain.

"VERY UP'd" - should explain self.

"Next to useless since no Deck would seriously include this." - There are no Decks that benefit from a Warrior/Fiend and nothing specifically benefits from the rest of the effect, so no Deck would use it.

"the effect is useless against everything other than Gigavis" - Gigavis is the only even semi-competitive Deck Type that uses Equips, this card wouldn't even have an effect unless you're against them.

"which you wouldn't want to use this against anyway" - You'd only take Mark of Rose, which would mean giving this card to your opponent, or Supervis, which would mean giving them a free Summon.

 

Extremely under powered. Noone uses Equip Cards and for good reason. It's always a -2 to the person using them. Boosting this cards attack by stealing their equip cards is more original and nowhere near as broken as you may think it is due to how situational it'll be. Even if they steal it they can easily get rid of a beat stick via card effects. Anyone who can't handle a beat stick has built their deck entirely wrong.

 

I would have liked this card more if it just stole equip cards from your opponent. If it just burns your opponent for stealing their equips it just makes it boring and situational. It ends up as a card that noone will ever use because it's not applicable to the current meta.

No offense to you but this whole "meta" seems like non-sense to me. (Although I see what your saying I'm just making an arguement to support my card *it's only natural*)

 

The meta is anything but non-sense. It's a driving force of the game and without understanding it' date=' you cannot claim to understand balance.[/b']

 

I do not understand meta and yet I know perfectly well the difference between UP and OP. Which I continue to believe is pure Perspective.

 

Looks such as these are ENTIRELY based off of opinion and personal experience with no factual support what so ever. Where I live, tons of people use Equip Spells and for good reasons.

 

The only valid reasons for using Equips are that you're running Gigavis or can't afford better cards. The fact people in your area can't afford or build good Decks should not play a part in balancing.

 

I do however take extreme offense to your little comment upon the people in my area (MY FRIENDS). Do not ever say anything against them. One: You know absolutely NOTHING about them there for your assumption is pulled out of your ass and Two: They are certainly not poor and I'd prefer you not ever say anything against them. If you do I will take actions accordingly. And no their decks are not bad nor are they Gigavise. They are built around unique cards such as Evocator and Izanagi. Therefore your ignorance of the people I live around has here by given me undeniable proof that the arguement you stated for that is 100% false. (I care not that I seem immature for saying that. I'm currently greatly upset that anyone would dare insult my friends that they don't even know, because that is purely immature.)

 

They provide more support, they give advantages, and they are useful in general.

 

Other cards do their jobs better.

 

I agree but that is still no excuse to down them

 

And as I said, basing your views on cards by how situational it is is a completely useless and altogether bad excuse. All cards are situational. Merely stating "This card is UP since it depends on a specific situation" is poor and vague.

 

Saying that a card is situational is an entirely valid point for balance. I can use my Fissure in almost any duel I'm in - it's not very situational. I could only use this against very specific Decks, or badly built ones. It is situational and I wouldn't run it because of how situational it is and unlikely to do anything.

 

I believe that situational is invalid and I will remain thus. Fissure is still situational, not very but it is. Again your arguement on the use of this card is invalid as you are using unproffesional perspective on Decks with Equips.

 

The burn doesnt even take into effect until this card is destroyed AND its not situational in the slightest bit.

 

Expecting Equips is very situational.

 

This comment will be disregarded for obvious reasons

 

If someone were to use this card they'd instantly pick up on the fact that you can trigger that bit by using Your own equips .

 

So you'd have to run a fairly bad Deck by the sound of it. Equips add inconsistencies and a Deck around this and Equips would be next-to useless.

 

Again this comment is 100% ignorant and invalid. This will be disregarded.

 

So even if you were facing an opponent who disregards Equips, this card would still be useful since you can equip it with what would normally be useless equips so that when your opponent destroys it, they take damage.

 

I'd rather be using Okazi, and Okazi is AWFUL.

 

Built upon perspective as every card is useful. It is just that ignorant people force themselves to remain ignorant of the use of particular cards. This comment has been disregarded

 

So to sum that up...

This card would be used, if not for the Equip snatch effect then for the easy burn effect.

 

It's barely any burn. It would not be used.

 

Disregarded for reasons stated in my above response

 

If you can counter this arguement please do so. I like learning, but don't take my replies as offensive as that will be your undoing.

 

I didn't take anything as offensive and hoped that I helped you learn about the current situation of the game. Please don't take my response as offensive either.

 

90% of your responses are completely one sided. This is built from your perspective which in my opinion is totally close minded.

 

Some of your responses I found were completely inappropriate, insulting, and just plain rude.

 

If I have anything that rude appears in any of my threads again I will ask a moderator to deal with the culprit. There is no excuse for a person being so narrow minded and down right ignorant.

 

Now. I hope that this will not be taken offensively except for the 2nd response with I honestly dont care if it was taken offensively since the comment responded to was completely inappropriate, ignorant and rude.

 

And just incase no ones noticed.

 

I have 0 tolerance for people who insult my friends since they no nothing about them.

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Chill out and learn to take constructive criticism from people. Exploding at people because they provide criticism to your card based on how the card game is played today is childish and ignorant on your behalf. This isn't the first time I've debated with you on a similar topic and you still hold on to these blind conceptions that equips are powerful when they are considered some of the worse cards in the game. Also, Griffin is not directly attacking your friends but he's stating actual facts about deck building in the game.

 

Saying the meta is not important or nonsense when creating your cards is stupid and is an incredible oversight for any card creator on this forum. Griffin said it best when he said that if you don't understand the meta you don't understand balance. No knowledge on how the game is played right now means you have no clue how your card directly impacts the game.

 

It's like saying that you've created a Dark monster that can mill 3 cards from your deck and tutor a Dark monster afterwards from your deck or graveyard is not broken because I'm sending cards to the Graveyard from my deck when they should be in my hand. Although an over generalization you should see the point here. The person who understands the meta knows this card would be broken because it can allow someone to mil 3 dark monsters then tutor Dark Armed Dragon for an easy advantage. Someone who doesn't know the meta would completely overlook this fact.

 

I do not understand meta and yet I know perfectly well the difference between UP and OP. Which I continue to believe is pure Perspective.

 

You can't claim whats overpowered and underpowered if you don't understand how the game is played today and what decks are currently overtaking other decks. If you truly understood balance and the difference between UP and OP you would have understood that your card was underpowered. This isn't simply based on a matter of opinion this is based on actual testing through countless duels, information on the decks topping in tournaments, and an overall detailed understanding of the metagame.

 

I've already stated that the reason Equip Cards are useless is because its a -2 to the owner. Basically, you lose hand advantage because you used a card to summon the monster and a card for the equip. When you lose the monster you lose the equip card as well. You lose 2 cards in the process and it most likely didn't give you a big advantage in the duel at least against a top tier deck.

 

Furthermore, it creates inconsistencies and deck imbalances because now you are using deck space for a card that boosts the attack of a monster where you could have been using that deck space to have cards to deal with your opponents threats. A monster with more attack doesn't determine the pacing of a duel anymore.

 

Considering the relative ease of dealing with a monster that just has pure attack it's not smart using Equp Cards in your deck. You spend the time to summon a card like ben-kei then go through the trouble of equipping him up the ying-yang for a OTK but then I flip book of the moon causing Ben-Kei to lose all of his equips. A single card from me has completely decimated your strategy. The exact same thing can be said with this card. It steals equips but I can use 1 card and make this even again. So your concerns that its overpowered by stealing attack is hardly something to be concerned about.

 

It doesn't matter if your local area uses equip cards up the gills because it doesn't consititute the makings of a top tier deck that is competable with the metagame. Creating a card to deal with your own local meta is one thing but you have to go into that understanding how that card impacts the game for the rest of the world.

 

Saying that a situational card has no real relevance is just as ignorant. The situation determines everything about the card. From whether its overpowered, underpowerd, useful, or completely useless. People who play on a competitive levle only run cards that are consistent or make a strategy consistent for them. Ignoring this fact only shows your lack of skills as a card maker. Take a look at cards like Venomnaga, she has a completely overpowered effect but she is too situational and can't be splashed in every deck. She has to be run in her dedicated deck and it's not a consistent strategy so as strong as she is, she's not that good of a card because she's inconsistent. Arcana Force XXI - The World has a OTK strategy but it doesn't happen as consistently as people want it to be so again as strong as the card is it's not that good because it's not consistent in the long run.

 

That's why using cards that are completley dependant on your opponent's strategy is not smart because now your strategy is inconsistent because you are relying on your opponent. If, however, the meta is dominated by few types of strategies its smart to make a side deck to counter such strategies. It's why people tech Shadow Imprisoning Mirror and Light Imprisoning Mirror in their side decks at tournaments because Dark and Light decks were running rampant and this was the ideal counter card to them. However, they didn't main deck these cards because it isn't smart to make assumptions that your opponent is going to run that specific type of deck.

 

That is why I'm saying your card is extremely underpowered because 1) It's a 6 star monster needing a Tribute with 2100 ATK and the idea that your opponent has a monster equipped with an equip spell card whose ATK is lower than 2100 unless you are running your own equip cards (bad plays already) 2) you have to make the assumption your opponent runs equip cards in their deck and in today's meta that's not happening 3) It doesn't gain an attack boost for stealing the equip card IF it manages to do that and 4) The burn effect only occurs when condition 2 is met. These reasonings makes this card inconsistent and thus not a good card at all because in a competitive format noone would want this in their deck. When the format becomes dominated by equip spell cards then we'll talk. There is absolutely no reward for running this card and from a competitive stand point this card isn't useful.

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ITT: Metagame is where all CardMakers should be. No... I don't believe that.

Ive told Griffin before that I rate on a Tier2 level, as I believe that Meta is left up to Konami and the rest of the TCG/OCG. So kindly place her card there. Not on a completely competitive level.

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[align=center]Onishi Fiend Knight

This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type monster. Once per turn, when this card destroys a monster, if that monster is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card. This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card. When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes 200 points of damage x the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card.[/align]

 

 

 

A Paradox? How will this card gains the benefit of the Equip Spell if in the card's lore it's explicitly stated that "This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card" ? Explain please.

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This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type monster.

 

Okay. Whatever' date=' they're both really supported types, I'm liking it so far.[/b']

 

Once per turn, when this card destroys a monster, if that monster is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card.

 

Looking at meta, the standard is 2000 for lv 4 (Gene-Warped Werewolf), 2200 ATK simply isn't enough. Even if they run Black Pendant which is terrible, you'd only be able to kill 1700+, which is ironically, Sonic Duck, you can't even use this on Sonic Duck with Black Pendant, which is terrible beyond any measure. I can't and won't even begin to say how wrong that is.

 

Not to mention this is a 1 tribute monster.

 

This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card.

 

This just makes it worse. You can't boost this card's ATK. So you can't even equip something to this card. The only thing this is going to kill is probably Gigavis, but that's it. If this was a 1900, with no tribute, I still have doubts I'd run it.

 

When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes 200 points of damage x the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card.

 

The burn is almost useless. You need 5 Equips for this to be better than Ookazi or Poison of the Old Man. Which are both terrible by the way. I'd stick with running Secret Barrel for my burn Deck.

 

I say it's UP.

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[align=center]Onishi Fiend Knight

This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type monster. Once per turn' date=' when this card destroys a monster, if that monster is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card. [b']This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card.[/b] When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes 200 points of damage x the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card.[/align]

 

A Paradox? How will this card gains the benefit of the Equip Spell if in the card's lore it's explicitly stated that "This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card" ? Explain please.

 

To me I would think it means that the cards effect is for burn damage that the card offers. I think it is rather balanced and good. Cards potential are not known until they are tried.

The olny think I am currious about is if the warrior effect counts olny on the field or is it any time.

9/10

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