♥Łövëły New Single♥ Onishi Fiend Knight

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Chill out and learn to take constructive criticism from people. Exploding at people because they provide criticism to your card based on how the card game is played today is childish and ignorant on your behalf. This isn't the first time I've debated with you on a similar topic and you still hold on to these blind conceptions that equips are powerful when they are considered some of the worse cards in the game. Also' date=' Griffin is not directly attacking your friends but he's stating actual facts about deck building in the game.

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Obviously you've never paid attention to any of my comments =/

 

I've never exploded at anyone for critizing my cards.

 

Reread the comment I left him if you dont believe me. I only "exploded" because he insulted my friends whom he has no knowledge of. The critizism of the card had nothing to do with my anger. I even said I love being critizied and that when I reply it's not because I'm angry but it's because I'm giving my case, so I learn.

 

So try actually reading my comments.

 

 

Now I'm going to go over the other comments (Backwards) and explain all.

 

[align=center]Onishi Fiend Knight

This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type monster. Once per turn' date=' when this card destroys a monster, if that monster is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card. [b']This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card.[/b] When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes 200 points of damage x the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card.[/align]

 

A Paradox? How will this card gains the benefit of the Equip Spell if in the card's lore it's explicitly stated that "This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card" ? Explain please.

 

To me I would think it means that the cards effect is for burn damage that the card offers. I think it is rather balanced and good. Cards potential are not known until they are tried.

The olny think I am currious about is if the warrior effect counts olny on the field or is it any time.

9/10

 

Yes. The warrior effect should count. I added that since there are so many Equips that are for the benefit of Warriors only (Such as Dragonic) and this way this card can snatch cards like that as well.

This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type monster.

 

Okay. Whatever' date=' they're both really supported types, I'm liking it so far.[/b']

 

Once per turn, when this card destroys a monster, if that monster is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card.

 

Looking at meta, the standard is 2000 for lv 4 (Gene-Warped Werewolf), 2200 ATK simply isn't enough. Even if they run Black Pendant which is terrible, you'd only be able to kill 1700+, which is ironically, Sonic Duck, you can't even use this on Sonic Duck with Black Pendant, which is terrible beyond any measure. I can't and won't even begin to say how wrong that is.

 

Not to mention this is a 1 tribute monster.

 

Hmm...Well. I have no idea what your talking about with the Sonic Duck and Black Pendant. But as to the Gene-Warped, he is a normal monster with no instant support which is why it's balanced with 2000 ATK. Using him to support your theory about my card's status UPing it seems invalid. I also told Zeaux why I thought the no ATK gain would be balanced. But thank you for pointing this out

 

This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card.

 

This just makes it worse. You can't boost this card's ATK. So you can't even equip something to this card. The only thing this is going to kill is probably Gigavis, but that's it. If this was a 1900, with no tribute, I still have doubts I'd run it.

 

View my reply to Zeaux's comment to see why I added that to the effect

 

When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes 200 points of damage x the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card.

 

The burn is almost useless. You need 5 Equips for this to be better than Ookazi or Poison of the Old Man. Which are both terrible by the way. I'd stick with running Secret Barrel for my burn Deck.

 

This card isn't for a burn deck. The burn effect is for a (if you will wish to call it)revenge tactic.

 

I say it's UP.

 

Thank you for your opinion.

 

[align=center]Onishi Fiend Knight

This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type monster. Once per turn' date=' when this card destroys a monster, if that monster is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card. [b']This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card. When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes 200 points of damage x the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card.[/align]

 

 

 

A Paradox? How will this card gains the benefit of the Equip Spell if in the card's lore it's explicitly stated that "This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card" ? Explain please.

 

It gains the benefit of Equip spells with other effects. As for the Equip Traps, since they rarely do anything but give an additional effect, this is quite useful.

 

Thanks for your comment ^^

ITT: Metagame is where all CardMakers should be. No... I don't believe that.

Ive told Griffin before that I rate on a Tier2 level' date=' as I believe that Meta is left up to Konami and the rest of the TCG/OCG. So kindly place her card there. Not on a completely competitive level.

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Thank you Icy!!! Thanks you Thank you Thank you!

[Raylen]

I'm saying you can't kill Sonic Duck wielding a Black Pendant with this card.

[Menace13]

OCG Fix says:

This card is also treated as a Warrior-type monster. Once per turn, when this card destroys a monster that is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card. This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card. When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes damage equal to the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card x 200.

 

Good card. Without the "This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card." this card would be OP, but as it is it is perfect. I love it. I would put this card in any Warrior deck. 10/10

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Chill out and learn to take constructive criticism from people. Exploding at people because they provide criticism to your card based on how the card game is played today is childish and ignorant on your behalf. This isn't the first time I've debated with you on a similar topic and you still hold on to these blind conceptions that equips are powerful when they are considered some of the worse cards in the game. Also' date=' Griffin is not directly attacking your friends but he's stating actual facts about deck building in the game.[/s']

I already answered this obviously false accusation

 

Saying the meta is not important or nonsense when creating your cards is stupid and is an incredible oversight for any card creator on this forum. Griffin said it best when he said that if you don't understand the meta you don't understand balance. No knowledge on how the game is played right now means you have no clue how your card directly impacts the game.

 

I beg to differ. I never cared about meta and never will and yet all my cards are fine. Anyways just because someone makes a card doesnt mean that it is in response to the meta. I made this card in response to all the equip spells made here and the monsters that support equips. And your last sentence has nothing to do with anything. To me it's suggesting I don't know anything about the game which is obviously false and I'd prefer if we stick to the card and not about your naive thoughts about me individually.

 

It's like saying that you've created a Dark monster that can mill 3 cards from your deck and tutor a Dark monster afterwards from your deck or graveyard is not broken because I'm sending cards to the Graveyard from my deck when they should be in my hand. Although an over generalization you should see the point here. The person who understands the meta knows this card would be broken because it can allow someone to mil 3 dark monsters then tutor Dark Armed Dragon for an easy advantage. Someone who doesn't know the meta would completely overlook this fact.

 

This comment has been disregarded. For reasons, look at above comment.

 

I do not understand meta and yet I know perfectly well the difference between UP and OP. Which I continue to believe is pure Perspective.

 

You can't claim whats overpowered and underpowered if you don't understand how the game is played today and what decks are currently overtaking other decks. If you truly understood balance and the difference between UP and OP you would have understood that your card was underpowered. This isn't simply based on a matter of opinion this is based on actual testing through countless duels, information on the decks topping in tournaments, and an overall detailed understanding of the metagame.

 

1 this is spam. I want constructive critizisms on THE CARD not about something as trivial as the meta. 2, I've already said OP and UP is based on perspective. As Icy said, the true nature is up to Konami. Now just because you lose a duel using this card hardly gives way to it's balance. It is not the card that has fail it's the wielder. This card should be added into the deck after you have studied your soon to be opponent's playing style. Even if it's added before. Everyone running this would know that this card is only to be used if your opponent has previously used equip spells.

 

I've already stated that the reason Equip Cards are useless is because its a -2 to the owner. Basically, you lose hand advantage because you used a card to summon the monster and a card for the equip. When you lose the monster you lose the equip card as well. You lose 2 cards in the process and it most likely didn't give you a big advantage in the duel at least against a top tier deck.

 

Well played arguement. But that depends upon the equip.

 

Furthermore, it creates inconsistencies and deck imbalances because now you are using deck space for a card that boosts the attack of a monster where you could have been using that deck space to have cards to deal with your opponents threats. A monster with more attack doesn't determine the pacing of a duel anymore.

 

This is why you must take these things into account when creating a deck. You are making it seem like it's impossible to have equips in a deck and it be able to withstand your opponent's threats. This couldn't be more incorrect.

 

Considering the relative ease of dealing with a monster that just has pure attack it's not smart using Equp Cards in your deck. You spend the time to summon a card like ben-kei then go through the trouble of equipping him up the ying-yang for a OTK but then I flip book of the moon causing Ben-Kei to lose all of his equips. A single card from me has completely decimated your strategy. The exact same thing can be said with this card. It steals equips but I can use 1 card and make this even again. So your concerns that its overpowered by stealing attack is hardly something to be concerned about.

 

Have you even considered you could be facing a Normal Deck which would make use of Equips? Also that's why this card isn't useless. If you were to pull that strat after I've stolen your equips there is no loss for me. Just you it's your Equips I'm lossing not my own.

 

It doesn't matter if your local area uses equip cards up the gills because it doesn't consititute the makings of a top tier deck that is competable with the metagame. Creating a card to deal with your own local meta is one thing but you have to go into that understanding how that card impacts the game for the rest of the world.

 

This card has been disregarded. Reasons: You assume the reason for this card's creation. You assume you know anything about my friends which proves you are slightly ignorant as you are wrong.

 

Saying that a situational card has no real relevance is just as ignorant.

Disregared. Reason: You either did not read or you misinterpreted.

 

The situation determines everything about the card.

I never denied that

 

From whether its overpowered, underpowerd, useful, or completely useless. People who play on a competitive levle only run cards that are consistent or make a strategy consistent for them.

I know this and many equip cards fit this

 

Ignoring this fact only shows your lack of skills as a card maker.

This reveals arrogance and the presumption that you know me. This has been disregarded as it is obviously false

 

Take a look at cards like Venomnaga, she has a completely overpowered effect but she is too situational and can't be splashed in every deck.

She has to be run in her dedicated deck and it's not a consistent strategy so as strong as she is, she's not that good of a card because she's inconsistent. Arcana Force XXI - The World has a OTK strategy but it doesn't happen as consistently as people want it to be so again as strong as the card is it's not that good because it's not consistent in the long run.

You so blissfully proved my point. Just because a card is extremely situational, does not make it OP or UP.

 

That's why using cards that are completley dependant on your opponent's strategy is not smart because now your strategy is inconsistent because you are relying on your opponent.

Invalid. This card can be used as a fail safe. If your opponent uses equips, then score for you. If not then 1 wasted space does not effect your game and this card can be used as a simple bate for Hate Buster, if ran in a Fiend based Deck.

 

If, however, the meta is dominated by few types of strategies its smart to make a side deck to counter such strategies. It's why people tech Shadow Imprisoning Mirror and Light Imprisoning Mirror in their side decks at tournaments because Dark and Light decks were running rampant and this was the ideal counter card to them. However, they didn't main deck these cards because it isn't smart to make assumptions that your opponent is going to run that specific type of deck.

Off hand: Nor is it smart to assume things about me which you constantly do revealing your arrogance and ignorance. Do not do this.

 

Now, I agree here. But now you have just contradicted yourself. Simple solution. Side Deck this card. End of story

 

That is why I'm saying your card is extremely underpowered because 1) It's a 6 star monster needing a Tribute with 2100 ATK and the idea that your opponent has a monster equipped with an equip spell card whose ATK is lower than 2100 unless you are running your own equip cards (bad plays already) 2) you have to make the assumption your opponent runs equip cards in their deck and in today's meta that's not happening

Inconclusive. I believe meta is personal experience based.

 

3) It doesn't gain an attack boost for stealing the equip card IF it manages to do that and 4) The burn effect only occurs when condition 2 is met. These reasonings makes this card inconsistent and thus not a good card at all because in a competitive format noone would want this in their deck.

Your opinion and you have no right to judge otherwise as you would be narrow minded and foolish to neglect others creativity.

 

When the format becomes dominated by equip spell cards then we'll talk.

Again this depends on people and place

 

There is absolutely no reward for running this card and from a competitive stand point this card isn't useful.

Opinion based

 

Now, how hypocritical is this. You're telling me I need to learn to take constructive critizisms (which I obviously always have by you didnt notice because you either failed to actually read my comments or you misunderstood. I will not be so arrogant to presume I know which it is) when you yourself have overreacted to something that I didnt even say to you. I told you that I was merely supporting my opinion and I ment no offense.

 

Thank you for your perspective and I hope you dont find my replies as offensive (although no doubt you will)

OCG Fix says:

This card is also treated as a Warrior-type monster. Once per turn' date=' when this card destroys a monster that is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card. This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card. When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes damage equal to the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card x 200.

 

Good card. Without the "This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card." this card would be OP, but as it is it is perfect. I love it. I would put this card in any Warrior deck. 10/10

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Thank you. ^^

I'm saying you can't kill Sonic Duck wielding a Black Pendant with this card.

 

Ah alright.

[Raylen]

I fail to see how you fail to see that this card that fails to beat Sonic Duck with a Black Pendant (which probably gets you more burn when it gets destroyed than this card). In both cases this is a -2.

 

*sighs*

[usetheforcehan]

[align=center]Onishi Fiend Knight

This card is also treated as a Warrior-Type monster. Once per turn' date=' when this card destroys a monster, if that monster is equipped with a Spell or Trap Card, you can pay 600 Life Points to equip that Spell or Trap Card to this card. [b']This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card.[/b] When this card is destroyed by battle, your opponent takes 200 points of damage x the number of equip Spell or Trap Cards equipped to this card.[/align]

 

 

 

A Paradox? How will this card gains the benefit of the Equip Spell if in the card's lore it's explicitly stated that "This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card" ? Explain please.

 

It gains the benefit of Equip spells with other effects. As for the Equip Traps, since they rarely do anything but give an additional effect, this is quite useful.

 

Thanks for your comment ^^

 

Hmm. Why not change the lore into:

•"This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed decreased by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card" or

•"This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed by the effect of a Spell or Trap Card except by Equip Spell, Equip Trap or Union Card" or

•"This card's ATK and DEF can only be changed by the effect of a Equip Spell, Equip Trap or Union Card".

 

Just a suggestions though. Good card imo. It makes the Duelist want to put an extra Equip Spell, Equip Trap or Union Card in their Deck.

Heck. Just go wild and create an Equip/Union Deck! :mrgreen:

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Lol. Well it's attack can be increased by Unions either way. But I prefer the current effect.

 

Ty for the pointers though :3

[Raylen]

*facedesk* No one listens...

 

I came to this following conclusion:

 

No one cares about the actual quality of the card. They look at it. They look at the picture, skim the effect and assign a 10/10 rating. Or a rating based on how well know the person is. In your case Lovely CC... Let's not go into that.

[ragnarok1945]

I've known LLD for more than 7 months now and I know she is a VERY talented card maker, Raylen.

 

I do look at the quality of her card closely

[Raylen]

How do you? You post on average, every 3 minutes.

[ragnarok1945]

let's just say she and I worked together on a few cards, and some of the ones I made still influence her on her's.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Some people dont listens...

 

This I agree with but your last comment about how I supposedly failed to see Sonic Duck w/ BP defeats this card.

 

No idea what your talking about since I said nothing to support this.

[Raylen]

Okay. You have this card out. Say it's equipped with 2 cards.

 

This card has 2100 atk points. When it gets destroyed, I lose 400 LP.

 

Now, on my field, I have Sonic Duck with BP. It has 2200 Atk points. When it gets destroyed, you lose 500 LP.

 

Last time I will say it.

 

In fact. Anything with 1700+ Atk equipped with a BP, you can't kill, and take the equip.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Raylen.

 

You've contradicted yourself.

 

You say no one listens.

 

You do not listen either.

 

I have said that I know what you ment.

[Raylen]

I love it!

+Nice image

+Great OCG

+Fair and balanced effect for its Level and points

 

It's great. <(^^)>/10.

 

The Best card I have seen in the past month

 

Nice Image

 

Well Balanced

 

Exelent OCG

 

10/10 or more

 

as i see there no OCG errors

the Pic is AWSOME

overall 9.9/10

 

btw i like Monoka on your AVI ^___^

 

I'm unsure if there's a female term for Knight since it's a female picture (exactly what I expected from you LLD' date=' since there's so few female warriors)

 

given that atk changing spells and traps are so common these days, this is a good idea

 

burn damage to yourself balances it out

 

9.1/10 (not as epic as your previous ones, but nevertheless impressive)

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What do these posts have in common? They all ignore my point, which I've tried to make so obvious. Why? Simply because, they just look at you, and say "This person's a good card maker. I like the pic. 10/10.". They don't bother to even read the effect.

 

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I posted this at like the same time as you posted your post. Anyways. I think the can't part in my post above makes a difference. Nevermind comparing this to Sonic Duck. Compare this to Summoned Skull on BP.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Next time you post here with something redundant or irrelevant I am either

 

A) Going to block you

 

OR

 

B) Going Speak to someone who can do a little more.

 

I have said I know what you're saying. Now enough!

[wero-vasto]

STOP!

 

One of the big reasones that I use YCM is cuz I do not like the current Meta or I want to creat something new...

 

If you are attacking LLD saying that her card doesn't go with the current Meta go play the TCG/OCG game...

 

To rate you need to check:

• If the card goes with the current meta

 

OR

 

• If the card can create a new meta

 

In both of them you can rate the card OPed or UPed... we can let the people come here and use "It doesn't go with the current meta" as a defense...

 

Now into the card... YES! it is Situational but many of the cards are... It doesn't see UPed to me... It seems quite balanced to me... I feel the last setence of the card a little weird :S but never mind...

 

So 8.9/10

[usetheforcehan]

No one cares about the actual quality of the card. They look at it. They look at the picture' date=' skim the effect and assign a 10/10 rating. Or a rating based on how well know the person is. In your case Lovely CC... Let's not go into that.

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Everyone care about the card quality btw. That's why this thread has reached 3 pages.

 

Not everyone play Yugi TCG to Win. Sometimes there are people that playing Yugi TCG just for fun, experiment using a different build or the Duelist itself has a favorite Deck/Card Type that even though the Deck/Card itself horrible, he/she insist on playing with it.

 

Except you play in an Official Yugi TCG Tournament that gives you a some thousand dollar rewards, then yes. You must follow up with the current meta play.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Thank you Wero...

 

So much for that perfect perfect comment. (No sarcasm I really mean it)

 

But this thread is generating to much anger and annoyance and discontent among YCM members.

 

Griff Killey....

 

If you want to continue our little chat later, PM me.

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No one cares about the actual quality of the card. They look at it. They look at the picture' date=' skim the effect and assign a 10/10 rating. Or a rating based on how well know the person is. In your case Lovely CC... Let's not go into that.

[/quote']

 

Everyone care about the card quality btw. That's why this thread has reached 3 pages.

 

Not everyone play Yugi TCG to Win. Sometimes there are people that playing Yugi TCG just for fun, experiment using a different build or the Duelist itself has a favorite Deck/Card Type that even though the Deck/Card itself horrible, he/she insist on playing with it.

 

Except you play in an Official Yugi TCG Tournament that gives you a some thousand dollar rewards, then yes. You must follow up with the current meta play.

 

Thank you! So much!

 

<(^^)>

[wero-vasto]

Thank you Wero...

 

So much for that perfect perfect comment. (No sarcasm I really mean it)

 

But this thread is generating to much anger and annoyance and discontent among YCM members.

 

Griff Killey....

 

If you want to continue our little chat later' date=' PM me.[/quote']

 

Lol I had a typo error with can xD well we all know that it should say can't xD

 

Don't worry LLD ^^ I know you're good and you're the last person that want a fight here ^^

[Neoshadow155]

Good picture

Balanced

Good card overall

good ocg

 

I rated in 5 bullets or less XD

Overall: *Hug*/10 (9.99999/10) XD

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Lol thank you both ^^

 

A bunch

[Raylen]

I am simply expanding upon a point that was made by Griffin and Killey.

 

I understand I was being a jerk at times. I apologize.

[usetheforcehan]

I am simply expanding upon a point that was made by Griffin and Killey.

 

I understand I was being a jerk at times. I apologize.

 

You don't have to apologize. Everybody have a right to express their though. ;)

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

No its nothing. I'm the one who should apologize

 

I was agitated by the whole mess. Then it felt that you were repeating the same thing to me over and over again in lame terms as if I were a retarded 4 year old.

 

I know you ment well and now that my head is cleared I realized that I was the prick.

 

I'm sorry for threatening you. You didnt deserve that.