[Tom] The Alphabetic Core mini-Set *11/19* - Monster and Trap Added -

[Cloister]

Yes, I actually thought of them when I made it, I will have maybe 5 Spells/Traps and mybe 2 monsters that include "Alphabetic" but not "Warrior" Like "Alphabetic Beast" or something

 

thanks!

[raymond5577]

seems balance to me =) good job XD, can't wait for more^^

[Cloister]

thx

[Cloister]

added card

[ragnarok1945]

for your new card, Defence should be Defense

 

it's a shame you didn't give it an atk gaining ability either

 

9.2/10

[Cloister]

well, I though that since it serves as a "shield" it shouldn't have any ATK

[Scatty]

for your new card' date=' Defence should be Defense

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Wrong! Both are accepted.

 

Anyway DEF beast is kinda weak, Millenium Shield has 3000 DEF but needs only 1 Tribute.

[Alordzynix]

Don't take this bad, but I think there is definitely something wrong with your newest card. I might not know what else you have planned for this set but from what I can see now and what I think I can expect this card is horribly underpowered:

You can Normal Summon this card in Defence Position, by Tributing 2 Defence Position "Alphabetic Warrior" monsters you control.

I suggest you change it to 1 because:

1) There is no point really in using this effect

2) Its something a lot of archetype LV8 monsters have like "Koa'ki Meiru Valafar" and "Fiend Roar Deity Deineira"

 

You cannot Special Summon monsters during your next turn

If I’m right this effect kicks in when summoned by its own effect, seems like an unnecessary restriction to me because the card isn’t that strong to deserve such a restriction, and if it is it is worded wrong and should be something like If this card was Normal Summoned by this effect, you cannot Special Summon monsters during your next turn

 

This card cannot change its Battle Position if you control another "Alphabetic" monster

First of all I think it should be If you control another "Alphabetic" monster, this card cannot change its Battle Position. if I’m right it was added so that your opponent won't be able to switch this card to attack mode and kill it by battle then. It looks more like another restriction but I don’t think it will harm the card's play as nobody would want to attack with this card.

 

During each turn this card is face-up on the field, it loses 300 DEF.

WHY? What kind of advantage does this card give that it would need to lose DEF? You could easily give it 200 more DEF (so total would be 3100) and it still wouldn't be worth this restriction. Personally I think this card could easily be changed to:

 

You can Tribute 1 "Alphabetic Warrior" monster to Tribute Summon this card in face-up Defence Position. If you control another "Alphabetic" monster, this card cannot change its Battle Position.

ATK: 0 DEF: 0

 

And still not be overpowered. Of course I don't know what other kind of support you have for this set but if a simple wall monster needs this much of restrictions I think your support would be way to strong.

[Cloister]

I won't change the DEF to 0, but I will think about what you said, zynix, and maybe change the Tributes and such

thanks! :] really appreciate these types of rates and comments

[Alordzynix]

I won't change the DEF to 0' date=' but I will think about what you said, zynix, and maybe change the Tributes and such

thanks! :'] really appreciate these types of rates and comments

O_o. Sorry dude, I ment 3100. Stupid mistake >_<. 3100 so that it will be save from 3000 ATK beat stickers.

[Cloister]

Yes, I might or, I'll add a gain effect instead, like for each "Alphabetic" monster on the field, it gains 200 DEF?

[Alordzynix]

Yes' date=' I might or, I'll add a gain effect instead, like for each "Alphabetic" monster on the field, it gains 200 DEF?

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Right now I would say Graveyard instead of field, because of Runes Worlds and ABC Commander already send them to the graveyard.

[Cloister]

Your correct, but in some way I'll make it work :]

Thanks, any more comments anyone?

[Scatty]

Yes. Gaining 200 for every one in the graveyard is kinda much, if you use that, it's original DEF should be 2500.

[Cloister]

yes, but it woulf get 2900 DEF when summoned then, but I'll see how I can fix it :]

 

Edited DEF, better or worse?

[Cloister]

Bumpp

[Alordzynix]

Nice new changes, I don't really understand why you want this guy to need 2 tributes for the 1 part but that is your choice. But there are still a few little problems:

 

You can Normal Summon this card in Defence Position, by Tributing 2 Defence Position "Alphabetic Warrior" monsters you control.

I think the correct OCG is:

You can Tribute 2 "Alphabetic" monsters to Tribute Summon this card in face-up Defence Position. Got this from Fiend Roar Deity Deineira.

 

You can have this card lose 1000 DEF to Special Summon 1 "Alphabetic Warrior" monster from your Graveyard in Defence Position.

Nice new additation, but I think that you should change it to once per turn and add a restriction on the monster summoned. Why? Because right now it can special summon also the same card. If you have 2 of these and your Rune World you could clear your opponents field by reving 1 with the other. And if you would Replace Rune World with a card like Cannon Soldier it is an OTK. Just a small thing you looked over that makes the card very abusable.

[Cloister]

yes, but that is because he is a Level 8 monster and woule normally need 2 Tributes.

And it cannot Summon the same card, he is "Alphabetic Beast", not "Alphabetic Warrior".

I will look how I can make the card even better, thanks again :]

[Alordzynix]

yes' date=' but that is because he is a Level 8 monster and woule normally need 2 Tributes.

And it cannot Summon the same card, he is "Alphabetic Beast", not "Alphabetic Warrior".

I will look how I can make the card even better, thanks again :']

>_< I always miss little details like that, in that case it is perfectly fine. But for the LV8 part, there are other archetype LV7/8 monsters that have an effect that if the tribute is from that archetype they only need 1. It is to make them more playable and to stop them from being abusable in a different kind of deck. So I don't think it would be wrong for your monster to only need 1 tribute even with being LV8.

[Cloister]

bump, added Warrior C

[Scatty]

C's ATK reduction is unnecessary but because he doesn't attack anyway I'll ignore it.

 

DEF is better, but still on the left side of the balance line.

 

You don't really like raw power, do you, Tom my boy?

[Cloister]

I love raw power!

But I thought this set would be different so..

[Scatty]

It's too soft, dude. Look around, at the BADASSNESS of the other people. Look at my game changing Field Spell that I just made. Everybody loves raw power.

 

And raw power loves you.

[Cloister]

Haha, you're right, but there are Raw power monsters here too, just wait and see!

[legolover09]

I love these little creatures. I can't wait to see what comes next.