Magic

[burnpsy]

^I wasn't trying to make a point, just saying.

 

MtG Un-Sets format FTK:

 

[Father Wolf]

There we go.

 

My bad' date=' it was a 20/20 Flying Token that comes from a land.

 

Pair with Burst of Speed (I guess?).

[/quote']

 

There are no cards that give you a 20/20 Flying Token.

 

My post edit above disproved you.

 

Indestructable too. >___>

 

Okay, yeah. You can do this if your starting hand has 2 Black Lotus, 1 Burst of Speed, 1 Vampire Hexmage, and 1 Dark Depths. This combo is impossible, because Black Lotus is restricted in Vintage format and banned in all other formats.

 

There's a card that exiles itself from your hand to add mana. I don't remember the name but there is one.

 

Most go for the turn 2 variant though, more consistent.

 

Either way, I can think of several FTK's in Yu-Gi-Oh.

 

i fall asleep playing magic unless playing their fun cards. no card game should take 10min's to get to the good parts.

 

You're just an impatient idiot' date=' then.

[/quote']

 

so saying i dont like magic because its a long boring game make me an impatient idiot. wow horus ur narrow mindness is showing

[HORUS]

There we go.

 

My bad' date=' it was a 20/20 Flying Token that comes from a land.

 

Pair with Burst of Speed (I guess?).

[/quote']

 

There are no cards that give you a 20/20 Flying Token.

 

My post edit above disproved you.

 

Indestructable too. >___>

 

Okay, yeah. You can do this if your starting hand has 2 Black Lotus, 1 Burst of Speed, 1 Vampire Hexmage, and 1 Dark Depths. This combo is impossible, because Black Lotus is restricted in Vintage format and banned in all other formats.

 

There's a card that exiles itself from your hand to add mana. I don't remember the name but there is one.

 

Most go for the turn 2 variant though, more consistent.

 

Either way, I can think of several FTK's in Yu-Gi-Oh.

 

i fall asleep playing magic unless playing their fun cards. no card game should take 10min's to get to the good parts.

 

You're just an impatient idiot' date=' then.

[/quote']

 

so saying i dont like magic because its a long boring game make me an impatient idiot. wow horus ur narrow mindness is showing

 

The ancient Mesopotamian city-state of Ur is not narrow minded. Take that back.

[werewolfjedi]

There we go.

 

My bad' date=' it was a 20/20 Flying Token that comes from a land.

 

Pair with Burst of Speed (I guess?).

[/quote']

 

There are no cards that give you a 20/20 Flying Token.

 

My post edit above disproved you.

 

Indestructable too. >___>

 

Okay, yeah. You can do this if your starting hand has 2 Black Lotus, 1 Burst of Speed, 1 Vampire Hexmage, and 1 Dark Depths. This combo is impossible, because Black Lotus is restricted in Vintage format and banned in all other formats.

 

There's a card that exiles itself from your hand to add mana. I don't remember the name but there is one.

 

Most go for the turn 2 variant though, more consistent.

 

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement, and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tatic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

[HORUS]

There we go.

 

My bad' date=' it was a 20/20 Flying Token that comes from a land.

 

Pair with Burst of Speed (I guess?).

[/quote']

 

There are no cards that give you a 20/20 Flying Token.

 

My post edit above disproved you.

 

Indestructable too. >___>

 

Okay, yeah. You can do this if your starting hand has 2 Black Lotus, 1 Burst of Speed, 1 Vampire Hexmage, and 1 Dark Depths. This combo is impossible, because Black Lotus is restricted in Vintage format and banned in all other formats.

 

There's a card that exiles itself from your hand to add mana. I don't remember the name but there is one.

 

Most go for the turn 2 variant though, more consistent.

 

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement, and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tachic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

 

That takes more than 1 turn.

[burnpsy]

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement' date=' and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tachic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

[/quote']

 

All 3 major cards games have their charms. That's what makes all 3 of them popular, and why I play all 3. :P

 

Anyways, since this is a discussion on MtG, what do you people think of this, could help me get a better deck than the bad deck I currently run:

 

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p274860.html

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p288359.html

[werewolfjedi]

There we go.

 

My bad' date=' it was a 20/20 Flying Token that comes from a land.

 

Pair with Burst of Speed (I guess?).

[/quote']

 

There are no cards that give you a 20/20 Flying Token.

 

My post edit above disproved you.

 

Indestructable too. >___>

 

Okay, yeah. You can do this if your starting hand has 2 Black Lotus, 1 Burst of Speed, 1 Vampire Hexmage, and 1 Dark Depths. This combo is impossible, because Black Lotus is restricted in Vintage format and banned in all other formats.

 

There's a card that exiles itself from your hand to add mana. I don't remember the name but there is one.

 

Most go for the turn 2 variant though, more consistent.

 

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement, and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tachic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

 

That takes more than 1 turn.

 

no it doesn't.

nothing in magic takes more than 1 turn if you make your deck a certain way, of course, that way is different for each case.

 

and besides, that token has summoning sickness, I have at least enough time to play fog bank, which will stop that 20/20.

[burnpsy]

and besides' date=' that token has summoning sickness, I have at least enough time to play fog bank, which will stop that 20/20.

[/quote']

 

Burst of Speed. All creatures become Red and gain Haste for 1 mana.

[werewolfjedi]

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement' date=' and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tachic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

[/quote']

 

All 3 major cards games have their charms. That's what makes all 3 of them popular, and why I play all 3. :P

 

Anyways, since this is a discussion on MtG, what do you people think of this, could help me get a better deck than the bad deck I currently run:

 

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p274860.html

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p288359.html

 

29 pounds of cards in boxes seems a bit far fetched, and I'm betting most cards in there are not as useful as the 100 set, which also seems more plasable.

[burnpsy]

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement' date=' and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tachic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

[/quote']

 

All 3 major cards games have their charms. That's what makes all 3 of them popular, and why I play all 3. :P

 

Anyways, since this is a discussion on MtG, what do you people think of this, could help me get a better deck than the bad deck I currently run:

 

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p274860.html

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p288359.html

 

29 pounds of cards in boxes seems a bit far fetched, and I'm betting most cards in there are not as useful as the 100 set, which also seems more plasable.

 

So you're saying that the 100 is a smarter buy?

[werewolfjedi]

and besides' date=' that token has summoning sickness, I have at least enough time to play fog bank, which will stop that 20/20.

[/quote']

 

Burst of Speed. All creatures become Red and gain Haste for 1 mana.

there are mana-less counterspells, so I could just nip this in the bud on that black creature.

but if I went first, and wasn't playing a very cheep deck like that, (you meanine.)

tidal bore, I return an island to my hand, and tap it before it attacks.

 

I can buy time until I can get what I need to stop you, or kill you, or steal that token like the mean blue/red player I am.

---

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement' date=' and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tachic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

[/quote']

 

All 3 major cards games have their charms. That's what makes all 3 of them popular, and why I play all 3. :P

 

Anyways, since this is a discussion on MtG, what do you people think of this, could help me get a better deck than the bad deck I currently run:

 

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p274860.html

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p288359.html

 

29 pounds of cards in boxes seems a bit far fetched, and I'm betting most cards in there are not as useful as the 100 set, which also seems more plasable.

 

So you're saying that the 100 is a smarter buy?

 

I'd say yeah, at least with the knowledge I have about such things.

[burnpsy]

and besides' date=' that token has summoning sickness, I have at least enough time to play fog bank, which will stop that 20/20.

[/quote']

 

Burst of Speed. All creatures become Red and gain Haste for 1 mana.

there are mana-less counterspells, so I could just nip this in the bud on that black creature.

but if I went first, and wasn't playing a very cheep deck like that, (you meanine.)

tidal bore, I return an island to my hand, and tap it before it attacks.

 

I can buy time until I can get what I need to stop you, or kill you, or steal that token like the mean blue/red player I am.

---

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement' date=' and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tachic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

[/quote']

 

All 3 major cards games have their charms. That's what makes all 3 of them popular, and why I play all 3. :P

 

Anyways, since this is a discussion on MtG, what do you people think of this, could help me get a better deck than the bad deck I currently run:

 

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p274860.html

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p288359.html

 

29 pounds of cards in boxes seems a bit far fetched, and I'm betting most cards in there are not as useful as the 100 set, which also seems more plasable.

 

So you're saying that the 100 is a smarter buy?

 

I'd say yeah, at least with the knowledge I have about such things.

 

I don't play that deck. Do I honestly need to tell you what I DO play? >____>

 

OK then on the set of cards.

[werewolfjedi]

and besides' date=' that token has summoning sickness, I have at least enough time to play fog bank, which will stop that 20/20.

[/quote']

 

Burst of Speed. All creatures become Red and gain Haste for 1 mana.

there are mana-less counterspells, so I could just nip this in the bud on that black creature.

but if I went first, and wasn't playing a very cheep deck like that, (you meanine.)

tidal bore, I return an island to my hand, and tap it before it attacks.

 

I can buy time until I can get what I need to stop you, or kill you, or steal that token like the mean blue/red player I am.

---

and my response to that 20/20 is fog bank.

 

gotta love fog bank.

 

I enchant it with entangement' date=' and now no monster without trample or landwalk can even touch me.

 

impressive tachic, but just like mine countered your 20/20, mine can be beat just as easily.

 

that's what makes magic fun.

[/quote']

 

All 3 major cards games have their charms. That's what makes all 3 of them popular, and why I play all 3. :P

 

Anyways, since this is a discussion on MtG, what do you people think of this, could help me get a better deck than the bad deck I currently run:

 

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p274860.html

http://www.trollandtoad.com/p288359.html

 

29 pounds of cards in boxes seems a bit far fetched, and I'm betting most cards in there are not as useful as the 100 set, which also seems more plasable.

 

So you're saying that the 100 is a smarter buy?

 

I'd say yeah, at least with the knowledge I have about such things.

 

I don't play that deck. Do I honestly need to tell you what I DO play? >____>

 

OK then on the set of cards.

 

honestly, no, you don't, but I don't actually know what you do play.

 

p.s. my friends want my dragon arch cards really badly. it does summon any multicolor monster for 2 mana, so I can see why, but I don't want to have to face it <.< >.>, what?

[burnpsy]

honestly' date=' no, you don't, but I don't actually know what you do play.

 

p.s. my friends want my dragon arch cards really badly. it does summon any multicolor monster for 2 mana, so I can see why, but I don't want to have to face it <.< >.>, what?

[/quote']

 

I'll just say it. It's a bad -1/-1 counter manipulating deck. Taking control of some cards, stopping the others from attacking or blocking. As their creatures die, they take burn damage and one particular creature keeps getting stronger (ATM, the strongest I got it to was 19/19 First Strike). It's Black/Red and uses primarily Elementals.

 

Also, LOL at that situation. xP

[werewolfjedi]

honestly' date=' no, you don't, but I don't actually know what you do play.

 

p.s. my friends want my dragon arch cards really badly. it does summon any multicolor monster for 2 mana, so I can see why, but I don't want to have to face it <.< >.>, what?

[/quote']

 

I'll just say it. It's a bad -1/-1 counter manipulating deck. Taking control of some cards, stopping the others from attacking or blocking. As their creatures die, they take burn damage and one particular creature keeps getting stronger (ATM, the strongest I got it to was 19/19 First Strike). It's Black/Red and uses primarily Elementals.

 

Also, LOL at that situation. xP

 

yeah, one wants to put it in his godsire deck, and the other is building a dragon deck.

 

and I only have 3 arches, so they both want them all.

 

and on the ele front, what kind of elementals? flamekin, or just an "elemental" zoo of monsters to kick ass with?

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh in real life anymore because no one plays it at my college. But guess what? They play Magic! So I play Magic now. Just putting this out there so you can know that I'm talking from experience.

 

Magic, at least Type 2, is a hell of a lot less expensive than Yu-Gi-Oh Advanced. Let's count up how much the standard Extra Deck costs in YGO, shall we?

 

Stardust Dragon = ~$5

Red Dragon Archfiend = ~$5

Black Rose Dragon = ~$7

Goyo Guardian = ~$10

Brionac = ~$25

Catastor = ~$20

Mist Wurm = ~$18

 

And this isn't counting specialty cards, like the Blackwing Synchros, which still cost a bundle. Now multiply a few of those by 2, maybe 3 in the case of Brionac, and you're looking at the Extra Deck costing over $100, and that's not even the cards you play with!

 

Now, let's look at my Vampire Deck, fully made, without Fetch Lands (because I'm a cheap bastard and won't stoop to buying them off of eBay):

 

Commons and Uncommons: ~$15 total

Vampire Nocturnus x4: ~$12 each

Kalastria Highborn X3: ~$5 each

Malakir Bloodwitch x2: ~$2 each

 

If I were to add my Fetch Lands, that would be an additional ~$80 or so. Now, for less or not a whole lot more, you can have a complete competitive deck in Magic where in YGO you would only have an Extra Deck.

[werewolfjedi]

I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh in real life anymore because no one plays it at my college. But guess what? They play Magic! So I play Magic now. Just putting this out there so you can know that I'm talking from experience.

 

Magic' date=' at least Type 2, is a hell of a lot less expensive than Yu-Gi-Oh Advanced. Let's count up how much the standard Extra Deck costs in YGO, shall we?

 

Stardust Dragon = ~$5

Red Dragon Archfiend = ~$5

Black Rose Dragon = ~$7

Goyo Guardian = ~$10

Brionac = ~$25

Catastor = ~$20

Mist Wurm = ~$18

 

And this isn't counting specialty cards, like the Blackwing Synchros, which still cost a bundle. Now multiply a few of those by 2, maybe 3 in the case of Brionac, and you're looking at the Extra Deck costing over $100, and that's not even the cards you play with!

 

Now, let's look at my Vampire Deck, fully made, without Fetch Lands (because I'm a cheap bastard and won't stoop to buying them off of eBay):

 

Commons and Uncommons: ~$15 total

Vampire Nocturnus x4: ~$12 each

Kalastria Highborn X3: ~$5 each

Malakir Bloodwitch x2: ~$2 each

 

If I were to add my Fetch Lands, that would be an additional ~$80 or so. Now, for less or not a whole lot more, you can have a complete competitive deck in Magic where in YGO you would only have an Extra Deck.

[/quote']

 

it gets pretty silly doesn't it?

 

yeah, personaly, I don't like all those stupid " I don't actually make mana" lands, they are just stupid.

[burnpsy]

@ChaosPudding: Only Aximil was complaining about MtG's prices. As for me, I'm well aware of the price difference. PKMN doesn't cost a lot unless you're going for top meta. Even then, they'll just get reprinted as Promos for free at Leagues after a while. As for YGO, One can just chop off their Extra Deck or a portion of it, and not get unnecessary luxuries.

 

honestly' date=' no, you don't, but I don't actually know what you do play.

 

p.s. my friends want my dragon arch cards really badly. it does summon any multicolor monster for 2 mana, so I can see why, but I don't want to have to face it <.< >.>, what?

[/quote']

 

I'll just say it. It's a bad -1/-1 counter manipulating deck. Taking control of some cards, stopping the others from attacking or blocking. As their creatures die, they take burn damage and one particular creature keeps getting stronger (ATM, the strongest I got it to was 19/19 First Strike). It's Black/Red and uses primarily Elementals.

 

Also, LOL at that situation. xP

 

yeah, one wants to put it in his godsire deck, and the other is building a dragon deck.

 

and I only have 3 arches, so they both want them all.

 

and on the ele front, what kind of elementals? flamekin, or just an "elemental" zoo of monsters to kick ass with?

 

My creature layout is:

 

4 Dregscape Zombie

4 Flamekin Harbinger

4 Hissing Iguanar

2 Kulrath Knight

1 Necroskitter

2 Rockslide Elemental

2 Soul Snuffers

3 Thunder-Thrash Elder

[Guest PikaPerson01]

I don't think I could ever play Magic for the same reason I could never see myself watching Naruto. I mean, sure it may have deeper themes and more compelling plots compared to what I'm typically used to, however it's just so tear-inducing-ly slow it could never make up for the mindless drivel of the activities I actually do enjoy...

[werewolfjedi]

@ChaosPudding: Only Aximil was complaining about MtG's prices. As for me' date=' I'm well aware of the price difference. PKMN doesn't cost a lot unless you're going for top meta. Even then, they'll just get reprinted as Promos for free at Leagues after a while. As for YGO, One can just chop off their Extra Deck or a portion of it, and not get unnecessary luxuries.

 

honestly' date=' no, you don't, but I don't actually know what you do play.

 

p.s. my friends want my dragon arch cards really badly. it does summon any multicolor monster for 2 mana, so I can see why, but I don't want to have to face it <.< >.>, what?

[/quote']

 

I'll just say it. It's a bad -1/-1 counter manipulating deck. Taking control of some cards, stopping the others from attacking or blocking. As their creatures die, they take burn damage and one particular creature keeps getting stronger (ATM, the strongest I got it to was 19/19 First Strike). It's Black/Red and uses primarily Elementals.

 

Also, LOL at that situation. xP

 

yeah, one wants to put it in his godsire deck, and the other is building a dragon deck.

 

and I only have 3 arches, so they both want them all.

 

and on the ele front, what kind of elementals? flamekin, or just an "elemental" zoo of monsters to kick ass with?

 

My creature layout is:

 

4 Dregscape Zombie

4 Flamekin Harbinger

4 Hissing Iguanar

2 Kulrath Knight

1 Necroskitter

2 Rockslide Elemental

2 Soul Snuffers

3 Thunder-Thrash Elder

 

smokebraider

---

I don't think I could ever play Magic for the same reason I could never see myself watching Naruto. I mean' date=' sure it may have deeper themes and more compelling plots compared to what I'm typically used to, however it's just so tear-inducing-ly slow it could never make up for the mindless drivel of the activities I actually do enjoy...

[/quote']

 

and honestly, fast-paced magic is not fun.

I enjoy magic when it isn't being taken seriously, otherwise it's just not enjoyable.

[burnpsy]

@ChaosPudding: Only Aximil was complaining about MtG's prices. As for me' date=' I'm well aware of the price difference. PKMN doesn't cost a lot unless you're going for top meta. Even then, they'll just get reprinted as Promos for free at Leagues after a while. As for YGO, One can just chop off their Extra Deck or a portion of it, and not get unnecessary luxuries.

 

honestly' date=' no, you don't, but I don't actually know what you do play.

 

p.s. my friends want my dragon arch cards really badly. it does summon any multicolor monster for 2 mana, so I can see why, but I don't want to have to face it <.< >.>, what?

[/quote']

 

I'll just say it. It's a bad -1/-1 counter manipulating deck. Taking control of some cards, stopping the others from attacking or blocking. As their creatures die, they take burn damage and one particular creature keeps getting stronger (ATM, the strongest I got it to was 19/19 First Strike). It's Black/Red and uses primarily Elementals.

 

Also, LOL at that situation. xP

 

yeah, one wants to put it in his godsire deck, and the other is building a dragon deck.

 

and I only have 3 arches, so they both want them all.

 

and on the ele front, what kind of elementals? flamekin, or just an "elemental" zoo of monsters to kick ass with?

 

My creature layout is:

 

4 Dregscape Zombie

4 Flamekin Harbinger

4 Hissing Iguanar

2 Kulrath Knight

1 Necroskitter

2 Rockslide Elemental

2 Soul Snuffers

3 Thunder-Thrash Elder

 

smokebraider

 

I know about him. I literally got my current MtG deck for $15 CAD AFTER shipping and conversion to USD. I could barely get decent stuff. At least my creatures have some sort of coherent connection, right? More than what I can say for many noobs like me at MtG. xD

[werewolfjedi]

@ChaosPudding: Only Aximil was complaining about MtG's prices. As for me' date=' I'm well aware of the price difference. PKMN doesn't cost a lot unless you're going for top meta. Even then, they'll just get reprinted as Promos for free at Leagues after a while. As for YGO, One can just chop off their Extra Deck or a portion of it, and not get unnecessary luxuries.

 

honestly' date=' no, you don't, but I don't actually know what you do play.

 

p.s. my friends want my dragon arch cards really badly. it does summon any multicolor monster for 2 mana, so I can see why, but I don't want to have to face it <.< >.>, what?

[/quote']

 

I'll just say it. It's a bad -1/-1 counter manipulating deck. Taking control of some cards, stopping the others from attacking or blocking. As their creatures die, they take burn damage and one particular creature keeps getting stronger (ATM, the strongest I got it to was 19/19 First Strike). It's Black/Red and uses primarily Elementals.

 

Also, LOL at that situation. xP

 

yeah, one wants to put it in his godsire deck, and the other is building a dragon deck.

 

and I only have 3 arches, so they both want them all.

 

and on the ele front, what kind of elementals? flamekin, or just an "elemental" zoo of monsters to kick ass with?

 

My creature layout is:

 

4 Dregscape Zombie

4 Flamekin Harbinger

4 Hissing Iguanar

2 Kulrath Knight

1 Necroskitter

2 Rockslide Elemental

2 Soul Snuffers

3 Thunder-Thrash Elder

 

smokebraider

 

I know about him. I literally got my current MtG deck for $15 CAD AFTER shipping and conversion to USD. I could barely get decent stuff. At least my creatures have some sort of coherent connection, right? More than what I can say for many noobs like me at MtG. xD

yeah, they work together pretty well, which is more than I can say for some decks.

[Guest Chaos Pudding]

I don't think I could ever play Magic for the same reason I could never see myself watching Naruto. I mean' date=' sure it may have deeper themes and more compelling plots compared to what I'm typically used to, however it's just so tear-inducing-ly slow it could never make up for the mindless drivel of the activities I actually do enjoy...

[/quote']

 

Seriously, Magic isn't (usually) any slower than Yu-Gi-Oh is (on average). Sure, you'll run into your long game every once in a while, but you'll also hit your games where it's over turn 5. I don't get how people think that Magic is slower than Yu-Gi-Oh.

[Psycho Shocker Android]

Yugioh is more popular than magic (fact we got a guiness record to prove it).

 

Magic is now as expensive as yugioh just look at: the new jace, the baneslayer angel, that new demon, the fetch lands, etc. and that's just standard. Legacy will cost you a crap load of money your deck can cost you around 500-1500$ and Extended will still require a lot of investment. Let's forget vintage because you can use proxies. And you run 40 cards in YGO vs 60 in MTG, so that usually covers the 15 cards in your extra deck.

 

If you want something competitive you'll need at least 200$ for your deck.

 

Now, for Yugioh, sure if you want to play LS it will cost you around 350$. Zombies are even cheaper. But you're forgetting the fact that you can still get GB for around 75$ and it's as competitive as your Vampires.

 

Go play vs mono blue in legacy or grixis in standard it's a pain rounds are 50 min and you'll most likely have to go into overtime. The only thing I like in Magic is that you win money at big events but it's a lot harder to get there (for pro tour at least).

 

As for pokemon, the video games are very popular but I'm not so sure about the TCG.

[RyanAtlus]

As far as I know; it's hard to get into MTG because it's already been around for so long.

Also; link to Guiness about YGO being more popular?