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Banned :

 

Dark Armed Dragon

Brionac Of The Ice Boundary

Magical Explosion

 

 

Limited :

 

Infernity Necromancer

Goblin Zombie

Judgment Dragon

Tsukuyomi

Necroface

Mezuki

Burial From Another Dimension

Charge Of The Light Brigade

Allure Of Darkness

Crush Card Virus

 

Semi-Limited :

 

Honest

Card Trooper

Gladiator Beast Bestiari

Black Whirlwind

Solar Recharge

Solemn Judgement

Gravity Bind

 

Unlimited :

 

Chaos Sorcerer

Mind Master

Mind Crush

Dewloren

Ultimate Offering

Magical Stone Excavation

 

Link : http://ms-s.net/00/49/yugioh/u1/images/182485/4b6f0327a8a49.jpg

 

Oh and Dale Bellido said all the pros wanted CCV back so we don't see decks running infinite boss monsters again.

 

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...huh

I like the unlimits...

Just not... most of the rest of this.

TBH, I feel Lightsworn got hit too hard and in the wrong places. I'd rather they lost Wulf than Charge. Charge made them reasonably consistent. Wulf makes them lucksacky and just more annoying to lose against.

Tsuki is nice to see back.

Card Trooper @2 is fun for my Ratbox, I guess?

YAY triple M-Master

YAY triple Ultimate for my 4th Gadgets 8D

 

 

And WHY oh WHY did my Necroface RFG Zombies have to have EVERY KEY CARD LIMITED except Shutendoji

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If this is true' date=' Lightsworns and Blackwings are severely weakened, Zombies are dead, and Gladiator Beasts get to use another Solemn Judgment and another Bestiari. Looks like a Gladiator format to me.

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Don't some people say "Glad Format" at the first sight of the list EVERY FORMAT? I swear...

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If this is true' date=' Lightsworns and Blackwings are severely weakened, Zombies are dead, and Gladiator Beasts get to use another Solemn Judgment and another Bestiari. Looks like a Gladiator format to me.

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I say Chaos Control decks will rule this meta. They have triple rai oh triple doomcaliber triple sorcerer and royal oppression. Plus CCV, GB will never get around that.

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Oh ho ho... oh ho ho ho...

 

My two best decks are GBs and Blackwings' date=' coincidentally the two decks hit the least. I'm very satisfied here. Meanwhile LS finally can lay dead.

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Same here. It's lucky my best decks aren't affected much. My Synchro Cat deck won't change except to lose DAD and add another Solemn. Not so bad.

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The "people run all-boss decks" explanation doesn't make sense. First of all, exactly which decks would those be? Most of the Lightlords are in the 1600-2100 range, but I wouldn't call most of them bosses. See similar explanations for Zombies, Gladiator Beasts, Blackwings, and pretty much anything else that anyone has ever run. Second of all, assuming for argument's sake that such decks actually existed, exactly which of those decks can't plop down bosses even while CCV is active? Lightlords have Beckoning Light, Zombies have Mezuki, Gladiator Beasts have Gyzarus, and everyone has low-ATK Tuners that transform into bosses. And, of course, the argument "unban broken stuff to fight more broken stuff and hope it balances out somehow" is fundamentally awful anyhow; it's a classic case of cleaning up a trainwreck by shooting more trains at it.

 

As usual, the bans and some of the unlimits are good, and the rest is terrible.

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If this is true' date=' Lightsworns and Blackwings are severely weakened, Zombies are dead, and Gladiator Beasts get to use another Solemn Judgment and another Bestiari. Looks like a Gladiator format to me.

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I say Chaos Control decks will rule this meta. They have triple rai oh triple doomcaliber triple sorcerer and royal oppression. Plus CCV, GB will never get around that.

 

Isn't Chaos Control a move that Shadow the Hedgehog uses in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle? Don't ask me how I know this.

 

Anyways, that's also very possible, except the triple Doomcaliber part. I don't even know anyone who has one.

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If this is true' date=' Lightsworns and Blackwings are severely weakened, Zombies are dead, and Gladiator Beasts get to use another Solemn Judgment and another Bestiari. Looks like a Gladiator format to me.

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I say Chaos Control decks will rule this meta. They have triple rai oh triple doomcaliber triple sorcerer and royal oppression. Plus CCV, GB will never get around that.

 

Yeah, because people totally weren't using CCV back in GB format right? Oh wait, they were and GBs were winning anyway.


Also, limited Allure pisses me off.

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I LOL @ how Infernities get hit as soon as they become even a potential threat <_<

 

Unlimited Chaos Sorcerer is stupid...very stupid. LOL @ Semi Gravity Bind, Stall has been dead for so long that this helps how?

 

All in all, I think this is probably real...it's ridiculous enough to be believable.

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CCV hits all the boss monsters.

 

It destroys DAD, JD, Gorz, Bestiari (because he makes gyzarus), Laquari, Celestia, Krystia, Chaos Sorcerer, Monarchs, Big Synchros (except Stardust Dragon), Shura & Sirroco to stop whirlwind. It's hard to stop zombies because they sychro summon using the graveyard. But you get to kill Il Blud who was the boss for Zombies a couple years ago and you get to kill Zombie Master.

 

I know it's banworthy but the fact we have 3 ddv, 3 eev and 0 ccv is stupid. Plus there's so many other problematic cards right now, I don't care if we get this back to keep them in check, as long as they all get banned at the same time. You have decks like gadget and pacman using nothing but small monsters that are very strong, so if you don't like CCV you have an alternative.

 

All I see is players jabroniing when we have good cards for control and when they get banned/limited everybody wonders why dumb aggro boss heavy deck wins, even those piloted by unskilled players.

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Dumb aggro boss heavy decks won WHILE CCV was legal' date=' have you forgotten? CCV changes nothing.

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LS has been the only deck like this to ever be meta.

 

Rescue cat? No. Everything in the deck was small plus this was more of an OTK you try to set up. Bad players can't set up big plays.

Tele-DAD? Only 2 DAD so no. And playing CCV ensured it wouldn't win by destroying grepher. If we had like 3 ccv and 3 dustshoot this deck would have never been able to do anything.

GB? No. This is control.

LaDD? No, another control deck.

Monarchs and Zombies? No.

Troop dupe Scoop? retarded deck CCV can't stop anything here.

 

And before that we didn't have CCV.

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Dumb aggro boss heavy decks won WHILE CCV was legal' date=' have you forgotten? CCV changes nothing.

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LS has been the only deck like this to ever be meta.

 

Rescue cat? No. Everything in the deck was small plus this was more of an OTK you try to set up. Bad players can't set up big plays.

Tele-DAD? Only 2 DAD so no. And playing CCV ensured it wouldn't win by destroying grepher. If we had like 3 ccv and 3 dustshoot this deck would have never been able to do anything.

GB? No. This is control.

LaDD? No, another control deck.

Monarchs and Zombies? No.

Troop dupe Scoop? retarded deck CCV can't stop anything here.

 

And before that we didn't have CCV.

 

LS is a "boss heavy deck" because it runs 2 JD, while Teledad isn't because it runs "Only" 2 DAD? This is nonsense. On top of that, this is the stuff you claimed counted as "boss monsters" earlier:

 

CCV hits all the boss monsters.

 

It destroys DAD' date=' JD, Gorz, Bestiari (because he makes gyzarus), Laquari, Celestia, Krystia, Chaos Sorcerer, Monarchs, Big Synchros (except Stardust Dragon), Shura & Sirroco to stop whirlwind.

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Here's something of interest... under those criteria, EVERY DECK YOU JUST LISTED is "boss heavy". Either you admit "I want CCV unbanned because it hurts LS", or abandon this preposterous "stops boss heavy decks" (which your are now claiming only includes LS to begin with).

 

You spent a whole post talking about all the decks CCV can destroy, but now you claim it only destroys LS... your arguments are completely inconsistent.

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People, compare the picture to the list that OP gave. There are 2 semi'd cards and 1 unlimited card on the Japanese list that OP didn't give in English.

 

Apparently, the list has something named 闘獣 sword tank semi'd and Gold Sarcofag unlimited. Last semi'd card is unknown.

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Well last time I checked top LS decks are running a lineup like: 2-3 Celestia, 2 JD, 1 DAD, 2 Sorcerer, 1 Gorz, 1-2 Kristya. That's like 1/4 of the deck.

 

There hasn't been any other deck like LS winning in the past because any deck like it couldn't possibly win in an environnement where control is strong. There has been decks like it in the past that were unsuccessful and ome even topped in a small amount. There was that Darkworld deck with injection fairy lily and cyber dragon. The dark deck running all the big dark monsters of PTDN with allures and trade ins. They couldn't win because a well timed solemn, a CCV or trap dustshoot would cripple them so much they couldn't recover. They were too unstable.

 

Now the only thing we have is a single solemn and 1 trap dustshoot as control options. No wonder LS decks win, there's nothing to stop them from winning.

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