Hartley Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I don't actually own any cards....but I do own the games! Here's my NEWST deck in the newst DS game, Reverse of Arcadia. It's like 7-0 so far. Chthonian Emporer Dragon x3Cyber Dragon x1Debris Dragon x3Sword Master x3Magna Drago x3Power Invader x3Search Striker x2Strong Wind Dragon x2The Tricky x2Tyrant Dragon x2 Mountain x2Silver Wing x2Stamping Destruction x2Swing of Memories x3Swords of Revealing Light x1Synchro Blast Wave x2 Ultimate Offering x2Urgent Tuning x2 Lightning Warrior x2Trident Dragon x2 What do you think? I'm kind of bored of it now, probably make another one soon. EDIT: Here's my justification for this deck. The basic strategy is Swing of Memories/ultimate offering> Chthonian> Summon Debris Dragon> Synchro Trident Dragon. (Or Synchro with Magna Drago+Tyrant Dragon) Or Special summon the Trickey/Cyber Dragon/Power Invader>Summon Magna Drago>Synchro Lightning Warrior. (Or Sword Master+ultimate offering+any Lvl 4 monster) Kinetic Soldier was a typo. Ignore that. The idea in this deck was to get quick synchros with monsters that could stand on their own if they needed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 This is really bad. Try a dragon build like disaster dragon or hopeless dragon. Will work much better. There just isn't any theme and it's very inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 @Rose, it's WC2010, probably doesn't have that good cards. *Notices the synchro choices* Or got them all/used AR =/ Yeah, horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 At least this isn't highlander format, with every card @1. And yeah, this is pretty bad... What do you want to do with your deck? What's your theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 @Rose' date=' it's WC2010, probably doesn't have that good cards.[/quote'] Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hartley Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 There is no "theme" per se, but I generally try to stay away from that. Playing just a dragon deck is boring. I build my deck around a few cards, in this case Trident Dragon, Chthonian Emp., and Lightning Warrior. The strategy is basically either special summon Tricky/Cyber Dragon and play magna Drago and Synchro Lightning Warrior, or use swing of memories when Chtho is in grave yard, summon Debris and synchro Trident. OR, just use ultimate offering on Chtho and go nuts with him. Also, if I want, I can tribute Trident or Chtho for Strong Wind Dragon and have a pretty tough guy. Worked so far. Oh yeah, I should also mention, I try not to use cards that are "signature cards" of the characters (yes I have AR on an emulator). I don't know why, but I just can't bring myself to use Stardust when I know he's somewhere out there in Yusei's deck. Thanks for the feedback, though. Maybe now you get what I'm going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 At least this isn't highlander format' date=' with every card @1.[/quote']Which is a 1st for YCM There is no "theme" per se' date=' but I generally try to stay away from that.[/quote']Then how can we help you? We cant exactly help you build twords what you want. Saying: "IT REVOLVZ ARUND DEES 3 SEENKROWZ!!!!!111" wont exactly get you the help you need. More specificly, each one of them tends to require there own build. Playing just a dragon deck is boring.Your right. Playing your "LOL DRAGON DECK" is boring.Thanks for agreeing. I should also mention' date=' I try not to use cards that are "signature cards" of the characters [/quote']Stardust is a Generic Synchro that can be used anywhere, and is also a good card in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartley Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Stardust is an awesome card, I know. So is Red Archfiend. And Thought Ruler. All good cards, but I don't want to use them because everyone else does, and I want to see how good of a deck I can make without "mainstream cards". Secondly,My deck isn't a "Lol dragon deck". It's not even a Dragon deck. I made a deck without a theme, and it works. Pretty good actually. I wouldn't mind you writing like a fith grader, usually, but nothing you've said offers any suggestions or constructivness. Thanks for nothing. Grow up ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord dmoc Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 This deck needs........... Wait for it...........WAIT FOR IT............ ~SHAPESNATCH~! Now to the point this deck = Bad, I should know a bad deck when I see it, so play GOOD extra, Hopless Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 l'm sorry to agree... by even casual standards, this is pretty... um....(+Rep if someone gives me a good word that isn't mean but gets my point across) You need a theme... that's like forgetting the foundation on a building. Or the eggs in a cake. Or the lumina in lightsworn. Everything falls apart. No synergy will develop and you will find it harder to bail yourself out when your options are receding...So... l think you need a theme... l csn help then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 refusing to build a mainstream deck is acceptable. refusing to use all cards that can be considered mainstream (subjective, btw), is just up-your-own-ass stupid. get over yourself. there's a lot of space between meta and absolute sheet, and you dont seem to grasp that. we get it: you're different, you're unique, and you get schooled by expensive, meta decks so out of spite you try to rise above that by not being like them in any way, shape or form. it's cute, and a lot of people do it. the problem is that you're so elitist that you refuse to use any card that might be considered "good", limiting your card pool to this mess. i'm sure if you came across someone who used a good debris dragon-based deck, you'd quit running that too because it's too "mainstream". synchros are mainstream. all of them. if you really want to be different, try improving an under-used archetype, or try out an alternate win condition deck. if it's boring, make a few different decks that rely on different play styles so it doesn't get stale. if it's still boring, make this sheet and play a children's card game alone and against computers in a video game like the loser you are. and if it's still boring, maybe yugioh isn't for you. maybe life isn't for you. in summation, this deck is terrible. my advice is to start over after lurking here for a while and seeing some good decks. there is a lot of creativity and fun to be had without being "mainstream", and if you look around you'll see quite a few interesting and feasible decks. what you won't see doing any good is lol-look-at-my-favorite-cards-aren't-they-cool? decks. like this. actually, scratch that, you will see those doing well as long as they don't run a lot of different, random strategies that either ignore or hurt each other. seriously, that last point is important. if you just wanted to make a trident dragon deck, we could help you. and by the end of the week you could be sporting the sexiest trident dragon deck ever to be digitally shuffled by a computer. instead you come on with this mess trying to show off or something, looking for approval and then lashing back when you don't get it. once more, it's something that everyone does; however, that doesn't excuse you. funk, i've seen decks without theme be pretty good before. usually they're control based and somewhat anti-meta in nature, full of one-for-ones and beaters, but this is just some random half-baked strategies duct-taped together with all the skill of the default plaguespreader i staple to any and every deck i build. so now, do you want to try asking ycm for help building a deck with some strategy, theme or generally consistent win condition? or do you want to yell at me and storm off like a child? while you think it over, have a greenman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartley Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Wow, way to make an assumption Tronta. And way to wrong. I don't play this game except on DS first of all. So all of this "meta" and "Hopless dragon" means absoultly nothing to me. I'VE LOST ONCE SINCE I PLAYED THIS DECK, which is about 15-20 duels now. And everyone in the game plays an Archetype deck or type deck. And calling ME a loser? Really? If the video game is for childern, what does that make the cards? Equally as childish, if not more. Sorry my hobby isn't card collecting, I just happen to have better things to spend my time and money on.If you want to resort to name calling over a virtual deck, then fine. I wasn't seeking approval, I was seeking opions. Granted, I didn't get any that I wanted, but I didn't lash out untill bastards started making personal attacks on me. Like you. Do I think it's perfect? No. Do I think it's good? Yes. If you don't get the deck that's fine. I thought the deck was doing good and I wanted to see what people had to say about it. It's worked so far, and when it doesn't, I'll change it. I came here to get some opionions and I did (thank you to all who didn't tell me to kill myself). But don't think for a second that you know anything about me. I put a lot of thought into this deck. Every monster and spell has a purpose. All of their levels add up perfectly for the synchros and their effects work well together. Everyone has told me this deck sucks, but no one has said why. So why? Because it doen't have a theme? Who gives a funk. So a couple of things: Grow up, stop caring so much about this game, and try adding constructive critisim instead of being so funking childish. (EDIT: If I offended anyone else, my appologies. I do respect your opinions. I just got pissed off)I edited and added a justification for all the cards. Damn...Now I feel like a jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Take a look at this link before going any further. This link will help. Read it all. When you post here, we are supposed to make it as good as possible depending on the banlist and meta. If you can't understand that a theme is the only way we can fix it without spending hours and hours on it, we can't help you. When you say 7-0 wins, is this in game or online? Alot in game duelists are really bad, so it wouldn't be a suprised anyone could beat people with this deck. If it's online, it's pretty dumb luck. Once you understand and choose theme, then we can get somewhere. If you want a cheap deck in real life, buy 3 machiners mayhem structure decks, trust me, it's worth it and it's actally a pretty dam good to to have with all you really need to do after is get some staple spells and traps. Only £24 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 So a couple of things: Grow up' date=' stop caring so much about this game, and try adding constructive critisim instead of being so f***ing childish.[/quote'] the only thing worth responding to was this.first, you're on a forum for the card game, and youre going to tell me to stop caring so much about the game. a lot of people here put a lot of time, money and sweat into it, and you're going to tell me to stop caring? please. moving on.i did add constructive criticism, you need to read closer. if you really want to be different' date=' try improving an under-used archetype, or try out an alternate win condition deck. if it's boring, make a few different decks that rely on different play styles so it doesn't get stale.[/quote'] in summation' date=' this deck is terrible. my advice is to start over after lurking here for a while and seeing some good decks. there is a lot of creativity and fun to be had without being "mainstream", and if you look around you'll see quite a few interesting and feasible decks. what you won't see doing any good is lol-look-at-my-favorite-cards-aren't-they-cool? decks. like this. actually, scratch that, you will see those doing well as long as they don't run a lot of different, random strategies that either ignore or hurt each other. seriously, that last point is important. if you just wanted to make a trident dragon deck, we could help you. and by the end of the week you could be sporting the sexiest trident dragon deck ever to be digitally shuffled by a computer. [/quote'] f***' date=' i've seen decks without theme be pretty good before. usually they're control based and somewhat anti-meta in nature, full of one-for-ones and beaters[/quote'] so now' date=' do you want to try asking ycm for help building a deck with some strategy, theme or generally consistent win condition?[/quote'] also, a video game based on a card game is like a movie based on a book. it's always worse, but at least it's flashy. it's also in a lower circle of nerd. the only way you get worse is if you wrote a fanfic based on the video game based on the card game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartley Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Look, I really don't want to keep this going. What I meant when I said stop caring so much is, I cant believe how much hostility I recieved from you, and how much you assumed about me based on a set of 40 cards. Like they somehow reflect any part of me, or my intelligence. I now I over reacted, or even acted like a child myself. But I was caught of gaurd by your 6 paragraph insult. With the only suggestions peppered with sarcasim and more insults. If you wanted to help, great. Write away. I was perfectly fine with people just saying, "this is bad", or "start over". But if not, then dont. The point is, I would never post something like you did (to a newer member especially) on a thread disigned to help people. No matter how bad I thought the deck was. This deck was an experiment. Its not my main deck (which is Light based). I can build a deck with a theme. And the "circle of nerd" is all subjective. You see it as more nerdy, I see it as less. I don't have to put in any time or money my way, so I don't have to invest as much into it I guess. I play the game for fun. Not only that, I don't know anyone who plays the game. So even if I wanted to start collecting, I'd have no one to play against. What's the point of that. Lastly, I edited my first post and included the strategy I use with this deck. As you can see, no card is throw in randomly or just because it is a "lol-look-at-my-favorite-cards-aren't-they-cool? deck". Critisize that strategy. Suggest better cards than those. And no, I've never written a fanfic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 petty arguments aside, the deck is still "meh" at best. but i'll humor you. Chthonian Emporer Dragon x3 - outside of geminis this guy is sub par. Cyber Dragon x1 - stapleDebris Dragon x3 - pretty good card' date=' but needs proper support.Sword Master x3 - i actually had to look this up. this guy is... bad. first he encourages you to kill one of your own warriors, or use a waboku, risk attacking (they could mirror, dprison, etc) and /then/ summon it. effectively it's a -1 anyway you look at it, and when synching it will become a -2, which isnt terrific. especially since it's very situational.Magna Drago x3 - i see far too many tuners here, but magna at 3 might be alright with proper support.Power Invader x3 - not bad, but there are better, less situational options.Search Striker x2 - this card could only be used in decks that promote forcing your opponent into face-down. most skilled players play very few cards face down, and run even fewer that benefit from it (i.e. flip effects are seldom used. too slow)Strong Wind Dragon x2 - i like this guy. he's like a psuedo-maju. once more, proper support needed.The Tricky x2 - not bad, but the -1 is painful.Tyrant Dragon x2 - ehhhhhh no. its not bad, its just not amazing. Mountain x2 - lolno. stop it. 1 card is not worth 200 attack.Silver Wing x2 - another card i had to look up. its not.. worth it really. your applicable targets are stardust, which is redundant, red dragon, which, well, is barely used anyway, and trident dragon. tridents.. alright. but this is a situational card to run with very few targets (you run two, and odds are will only have one out ever, and the game will almost immediately end afterward because he's an otk machine.)Stamping Destruction x2 - with the number of dragons, this is acceptable, but i better see mst in here.Swing of Memories x3 - 3 swings with 3 targets? bad numbers, bad usage.Swords of Revealing Light x1 - not an amazing card. its a stall tactic for poor decks, really.Synchro Blast Wave x2 - so many cards outclass this. situational and not worth running. Ultimate Offering x2 - not bad, but i'll explain why you shouldnt be running this in a bit.Urgent Tuning x2 - ehhhh. the only use this has is synching after attacking with the materials to get an additional hit in. not amazing, and slow.[/quote'] so here's the real problem with this deck.many decks have a problem where the cards dont like each other. many good decks have the quality of the cards liking each other a lot. in your deck, the cards arent aware of each others' existence. so many of your cards are standalone that there's no real synergy here at all. and the cthonian thing is right out of left field, it doesnt even fit with the psuedo-theme of summoning fat people fast. which brings me to my next point. because of this strategy, you're going to get pretty hard where it hurts the most. your hand. i see no draw cards in here, and so many -1's and worse. you have no way to generate advantage, and you spend advantage pretty damn fast. with something like ultimate offering you could end up throwing your whole hand out on the field in a turn, which doesnt sound bad, but if they mirror force you, or roar/thendosomethingelse, you're funked. this deck promotes a very aggressive, reckless playstyle, and it isnt good. the deck needs more synergy as well, so cards actually work together, rather than being separate elements unaware of each other. synergy improves consistency and raises your chances of getting what you need, when you need it. also, AI's are terrible duelists. not a good measuring stick. does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartley Posted March 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Yes very helpfull actually, and thank you. The main way i get Chthonian out fast is dump him with the Trickey's effect, then use swing of memories. Your right with the hand destruction, that's the main problem I run into with this deck. I agree that almost all of AI is bad. Every so often though, you run into a lightsworn or black wing. And it's the only measuring stick I have. I'll post one of my other decks, one with a theme. I'll see if doing that wrong or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 also' date=' AI's are terrible duelists. not a good measuring stick.[/quote']But it beats Wi-Fi, with people who use either:Random 80 card decksStacked Lightsworn abuse. Fixed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 thanks, i've been looking for that. but i like the face one too :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Tronta explained everything that needed to be said. My only advice is to start over, and if you need help, ask for it. Most of us are willing to take the time to help someone in need, but will get very frustrated when we see a deck full of scrap-irons and kuribohs (Examples), because this shows that you have absolutely no knowledge of meta or even casual decks, and to act like you do would be arrogant on your end. Not saying you did.You should take time and choose ONE method of winning for your deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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