2 Dads, 5 Kids.

[LiAM]

[align=center]Saw a recent report of this on ITV- This Morning.

2 dads, Barrie and Tony Drewitt Barlow, used a Surrogate from America to have 5 kids over the last 10 years.

Huge debate about it with outrage, abuse and media attention.

Even now, in the 21st Century, people are being negative. "Gay isn't normal", "The kids would be bullied forever", "it's not a good environment to be in".
etc. etc.

For further reading:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/barrie-and-tony-drewittbarlow-they-put-on-blindfolds-said-those-two-are-poofters-and-that-was-that-608738.html

Quick video link from YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ7b67k5qHc
(Other vids in sidelink bar).

If you're going to say something-be sure not to flame or troll, give reason for your comments.

2 heavy view points, so don't bring this into personal abuse >_>''[/align]

[Cyber Altair]

Stupid people need something mainstream to whine about >.>

[KuroKibo]

Hot damn!

I mean, wow. A family with over 20 kids, and now a gay family with 5 kids? What next, a lesbian family with 7 kids??

Question is, couldn't they just send them to the adoption-center-or-whatever-you-call-it center?

[LiAM]

In the review they said they tried adoption, but they didn't wanna do it, wanted their own kids.

[Junk Raver]

I am not against Gay adoption or a gay couple raising children, but i do think a child should be raised with a mother & father.

[BehindTheMask]

Gays shouldn't allowed to adopt kids. Period.

[Brushfire]

I am not against Gay adoption or a gay couple raising children' date=' but i do think a child should be raised with a mother & father.

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And for the people that didn't know; he's gay. Though I'm confused, what would you do if you wanted kids? =/

 

Gays shouldn't allowed to adopt kids. Period.

 

Trolling?

[Womi]

*shrug-shrug*

I really can't find any problem.

[Aximil]

Nothing wrong with gay peoples or lesbians. Anyone that thinks that is a homophobe. Simple as that.

[Guest JoshIcy]

I am not against Gay adoption or a gay couple raising children' date=' but i do think a child should be raised with a mother & father.

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And for the people that didn't know; he's gay. Though I'm confused, what would you do if you wanted kids? =/

 

I'd think (just assuming here but it's reasonable), that he'd introduce a Female Figure in the childs life. Likely a close friend. If this is wrong Raver sorry... just a hunch .-. ...

 

Gays shouldn't allowed to adopt kids. Period.

 

Shut up. Gays or whatever the accepted/non-harassment term is these days, are just like us. No different, only different in their private life; which I'm quite sure we all are.

 

OT: I see no problem, they did the responsible thing imo. Since it is technically the father of one of the children at the least.

[Zexaeon]

This is just stupid. =/ Why the hell do people have to bltch and whine about everything? So what, these people would like to just take the kids away from their families, believing they're doing them good? Bullshit.

[Flexh]

Stupid people need something mainstream to whine about >.>

it is their choice what they do lol

[BehindTheMask]

It's not so much I have a problem with Gay Marriage(I don't believe in Marriage, so moot point) or Gay Rights(yet again, everyone should have the same rights, so I don't label it 'gay rights'). It is the abuse of said system.

 

Two pedophiles could, under gay marriage/adoption, get married and start adopting children to be abused.

[Zexaeon]

And 2 Straight people couldn't do the same thing? Being a Pedophile doesn't mean you're gay. -_-

[BehindTheMask]

And 2 Straight people couldn't do the same thing? Being a Pedophile doesn't mean you're gay. -_-

 

It would hard to find a straight partner who would willing you allow to rape your adopted child, however, two pedophiles could marry for the sake of rape. It's like YCM can't figure out that if A = B and B = C, then A must = C. D:

[Zexaeon]

Your point is invalid regardless. You can't bar homosexuals from adopting children under the assumption that pedophiles will get together to abuse the system, because straight people can, and DO do that every day.

 

Hell, parents sexually abuse their own children, not adopted ones, all the time. You hear about this stuff on the news. Like how a father rapes his 11-year-old daughter, or a mother does the same thing to her son.

 

This sort of thing can happen in any family setting, so claiming it as your reason to prevent gays from adopting is idiotic. You might as well ban adoption altogether if that's your angle.

[BehindTheMask]

Your point is invalid regardless. You can't bar homosexuals from adopting children under the assumption that pedophiles will get together to abuse the system' date=' because straight people can, and DO do that every day.

 

Hell, parents sexually abuse their own children, not adopted ones, all the time. You hear about this stuff on the news. Like how a father rapes his 11-year-old daughter, or a mother does the same thing to her son.

 

This sort of thing can happen in any family setting, so claiming it as your reason to prevent gays from adopting is idiotic. You might as well ban adoption altogether if that's your angle.

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I don't believe in Marriage

I don't believe in Marriage

 

Ergo, I don't believe in the rights granted by marriage, like adoption.

 

2ndly, You don't seem to understand the implications. Person A is a pedophile. Person B is married to person A. Person A cannot as easily harm children in the same house when person B lives there. There are more reasons, but this is neither the time nor place to discuss psychosexuality.

 

Person A and Person B are both gay married, and pedophiles. Person A and B do not have the complications to hide their urges.

[Zexaeon]

Weather or not you believe in marriage is completely irrelevant. It exists, weather you like it or not, and the principal is exactly the same.

 

And I understand that you're implying a homosexual couple is more likely to be comprised of two pedophiles than a straight one.

 

Person A is a pedophile. Person B is married to person A. Person A cannot as easily harm children in the same house when person B lives there.

 

Person A and Person B are both gay married' date=' and pedophiles. Person A and B do not have the complications to hide their urges.

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Case in point. You seem to think that there is very little chance that two heterosexuals in a couple are both pedophiles, but on the other hand, it's far more likely that two homosexuals in a couple are.

 

Please explain yourself.

[BehindTheMask]

POINT 1 Weather or not you believe in marriage is completely irrelevant. It exists' date=' weather you like it or not, and the principal is exactly the same.

 

And I understand that you're implying a homosexual couple is more likely to be comprised of two pedophiles than a straight one.

 

Person A is a pedophile. Person B is married to person A. Person A cannot as easily harm children in the same house when person B lives there.

 

Person A and Person B are both gay married, and pedophiles. Person A and B do not have the complications to hide their urges.

 

POINT 2 Case in point. You seem to think that there is very little chance that two heterosexuals in a couple are both pedophiles, but on the other hand, it's far more likely that two homosexuals in a couple are.

 

Please explain yourself.

 

1) Okay, so I can't bring my opinions, in a thread where it asks my opinion. LOLWUT.

 

2) A heterosexual couple is less likely, believe it or not, to be pedophiles, because guess what, their needs can be fulfilled with each other. IMAGINE THAT. Even if they were pedophiles, it just strengthens my argument as its more of a deterrent for marriage.

 

I am gonna go ahead and revoke your breathing privileges. You'll get them back in 5-10 years.

[Zexaeon]

1) The thread asks for your opinion on the case at hand, not on weather or not you believe in marriage.

 

2) So, what you're saying is that 2 Homosexuals canNOT fulfill each other's needs? And therefore are likely to be pedophiles. Uh-huh. Have fun with that.

 

Oh, no, look at me. I can't breath. This person on the internet clearly has all this power over me. What ever will I do.

[Womi]

Buttsecks?

Isn't that fulfilling whatever needs considering they chose to be gay?

[Sander]

Eh, gay rights are fine and all, but having gay people being your parents can funk up the kids life. Obviously bullying happens because of this matter and would probably grow up hating gay people himself.

[Zexaeon]

Eh' date=' gay rights are fine and all, but having gay people being your parents can f*** up the kids life. Obviously bullying happens because of this matter and would probably grow up hating gay people himself.

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See, now this is a decent opinion. I don't personally share it, but I can certainly see where it comes from.

 

 

Buttsecks?

Isn't that fulfilling whatever needs considering they chose to be gay?

 

People don't choose to be gay. The ones that seem like they do are just Bisexual with a stronger preference for the same gender. But let's not start this debate; my point in quoting you is to agree. If they're gay, one would assume they'd fulfill each other's needs just fine.

[Brushfire]

Eh' date=' gay rights are fine and all, but having gay people being your parents can f*** up the kids life. Obviously bullying happens because of this matter and would probably grow up hating gay people himself.

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See, now this is a decent opinion. I don't personally share it, but I can certainly see where it comes from.

 

... And mine wasn't a decent opinion?

[Zexaeon]

I never said that. I just didn't address yours at all because I was too wrapped up in Mask Person's idiocy.