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Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier.


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0 or 3.

 

It's not disadvantaged by only having 1.

2 Goyos can steal 2 monsters in the same turn.

But 2 Brionacs is pointless.

Should be at 0.

 

There IS a disadvantage to only having 1. It's the same disadvantage that Rose has at 1.

 

You can only Synchro Summon it once per duel. Unless you use CotH or some other method of revival that can bring back Synchros, then after 1 use it's gone.

 

This is something that so many of you tend to overlook as nothing, but it actually has an impact on longer games.

 

Not saying anything about its list position, but seriously people. :/

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0 or 3.

 

It's not disadvantaged by only having 1.

2 Goyos can steal 2 monsters in the same turn.

But 2 Brionacs is pointless.

Should be at 0.

 

There IS a disadvantage to only having 1. It's the same disadvantage that Rose has at 1.

 

You can only Synchro Summon it once per duel. Unless you use CotH or some other method of revival that can bring back Synchros' date=' then after 1 use it's gone.

 

This is something that so many of you tend to overlook as nothing, but it actually has an impact on longer games.

 

Not saying anything about its list position, but seriously people. :/

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Yeah, I heard OTKing once per duel isn't as good as doing it twice or thrice.

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0 or 3.

 

It's not disadvantaged by only having 1.

2 Goyos can steal 2 monsters in the same turn.

But 2 Brionacs is pointless.

Should be at 0.

 

There IS a disadvantage to only having 1. It's the same disadvantage that Rose has at 1.

 

You can only Synchro Summon it once per duel. Unless you use CotH or some other method of revival that can bring back Synchros' date=' then after 1 use it's gone.

 

This is something that so many of you tend to overlook as nothing, but it actually has an impact on longer games.

 

Not saying anything about its list position, but seriously people. :/

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Yeah, I heard OTKing once per duel isn't as good as doing it twice or thrice.

 

I was attacking the logic of limiting things like this in general. Just throwing one line like that to a much longer post makes you sound stupid.

 

Regardless, something I should note is that this doesn't actually cause the OTKs. Other cards do, and those are more banworthy than this.

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0 or 3.

 

It's not disadvantaged by only having 1.

2 Goyos can steal 2 monsters in the same turn.

But 2 Brionacs is pointless.

Should be at 0.

 

There IS a disadvantage to only having 1. It's the same disadvantage that Rose has at 1.

 

You can only Synchro Summon it once per duel. Unless you use CotH or some other method of revival that can bring back Synchros' date=' then after 1 use it's gone.

 

This is something that so many of you tend to overlook as nothing, but it actually has an impact on longer games.

 

Not saying anything about its list position, but seriously people. :/

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Yeah, I heard OTKing once per duel isn't as good as doing it twice or thrice.

 

I was attacking the logic of limiting things like this in general. Just throwing one line like that to a much longer post makes you sound stupid.

 

Regardless, something I should note is that this doesn't actually cause the OTKs. Other cards do, and those are more banworthy than this.

 

I know it doesn't cause OTKs which is why in my OP I say it should be at 3 if Konami won't ban it. This still needs to be banned though, limiting doesn't hurt it.

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Yeah' date=' I heard OTKing once per duel isn't as good as doing it twice or thrice.

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If I bottomless your brionac you can't summon another one and OTK.

 

Monster Removal existing gives a point to limiting synchros and fusions.

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I big deal with it at one :/.

 

We have Heavy Storm. No cost, complete backrow removal.

We have MST. Like Brionac's effect, except the card is destroyed and there is no cost.

We have Fissure and Smashing Ground. Destroy a face up monster (Card choses selection).

We have Lightning Vortex. Discard a card to destroy all face up monsters your opponent controls.

We have Mist Wurm. Return 3 cards for free.

We have Black Rose Dragon. Field nuke.

We have Torrential Tribute. After summon, destroy all cards.

We have Penguin Solider. Return 2 cards after FLIP. BoM + BoT anyone?

 

This is a 3 or 0 card.

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Should be banned. Having it at 1 does help, but the OTKs are still too easy with this. Although many of them will end up resorting to mist wurm... Won't be banned, but should be...

 

Player 1: Sweet! I have facedown Starlight road and Heraklinos on the Field!!! I'm in pretty good shape!

 

Player 2: I summon brionac!

 

Player 1: FUUUUUU

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Should be banned. Having it at 1 does help' date=' but the OTKs are still too easy with this. Although many of them will end up resorting to mist wurm... Won't be banned, but should be...

 

Player 1: Sweet! I have facedown Starlight road, facedown Bottomless Trap Hole and Heraklinos on the Field!!! I'm in pretty good shape!

 

Player 2: I summon brionac!

 

Player 1: Bottomless Trap Hole.

 

Player 2: FFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

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That would be the smart thing to do.

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