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I ran into a problem involving this card...

 

I had this on the field' date=' and the opponent had Prime Material Dragon.

I also had Nurse of the field, so..meh

 

In any case...what happens?

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Depending on the order of which they were activated (basically as long as PMD wasn't the last one to hit the field) PMD and Simochi/Nurse would cancel each other out and then the other one (Simochi/Nurse) would cause the burn to go through as normal. If PMD were last, I think it would just cancel everything, I think, unless Simochi and Nurse stack, in that case, the burn alwasy go through on a 1-4-1 basis, it wouldn't double.

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I ran into a problem involving this card...

 

I had this on the field' date=' and the opponent had Prime Material Dragon.

I also had Nurse of the field, so..meh

 

In any case...what happens?

[/quote']

 

Depending on the order of which they were activated (basically as long as PMD wasn't the last one to hit the field) PMD and Simochi/Nurse would cancel each other out and then the other one (Simochi/Nurse) would cause the burn to go through as normal. If PMD were last, I think it would just cancel everything, I think, unless Simochi and Nurse stack, in that case, the burn alwasy go through on a 1-4-1 basis, it wouldn't double.

 

Ignore the above.

Each effect happens once.

 

Burn tries to happen with PMD and Simo out:

PMD changes it. Simo changes it. Nothing happens again, it stays as burn.

 

Heal tries in same situation:

Simo changes it. PMD changes it. Nothing else happens, it stays as heal.

 

Heal with PMD and 2x Simo:

Simo changes. PMD changes. Other Simo changes. It turns to burn.

 

Ect, ect, ect.

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Discuss how easily this card can work in several decks.

 

Several? Uhh... Simochi/Reficule Burn and... what other kind of deck?

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Discuss how easily this card can work in several decks.

 

Several? Uhh... Simochi/Reficule Burn and... what other kind of deck?

 

Well several luck decks that use cards with either gain or lose lifepoint cards along with Des wombat would work well.

 

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Psychics

 

This does nothing vs. Psychics' date=' even if they ran PMD, all Simochi would do is cause it to negate what ever LP they gain.

 

Upstart Goblin is awesome with this.

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Any psychic deck will run a ton of cards that make them lose lifepoints. They would eventually not want to due to not being able to gain it back through various ways.

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Discuss how easily this card can work in several decks.

 

Several? Uhh... Simochi/Reficule Burn and... what other kind of deck?

 

Well several luck decks that use cards with either gain or lose lifepoint cards along with Des wombat would work well.

 

That just sounds like an awful version of Simochi/Reficule Burn.

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Discuss how easily this card can work in several decks.

 

Several? Uhh... Simochi/Reficule Burn and... what other kind of deck?

 

Well several luck decks that use cards with either gain or lose lifepoint cards along with Des wombat would work well.

 

That just sounds like an awful version of Simochi/Reficule Burn.

 

I can make a worse version. Its basically a perfect build, but without Reficule and Simochi.

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I ran into a problem involving this card...

 

I had this on the field' date=' and the opponent had Prime Material Dragon.

I also had Nurse of the field, so..meh

 

In any case...what happens?

[/quote']

 

Depending on the order of which they were activated (basically as long as PMD wasn't the last one to hit the field) PMD and Simochi/Nurse would cancel each other out and then the other one (Simochi/Nurse) would cause the burn to go through as normal. If PMD were last, I think it would just cancel everything, I think, unless Simochi and Nurse stack, in that case, the burn alwasy go through on a 1-4-1 basis, it wouldn't double.

 

Ignore the above.

Each effect happens once.

 

Burn tries to happen with PMD and Simo out:

PMD changes it. Simo changes it. Nothing happens again, it stays as burn.

 

Heal tries in same situation:

Simo changes it. PMD changes it. Nothing else happens, it stays as heal.

 

Heal with PMD and 2x Simo:

Simo changes. PMD changes. Other Simo changes. It turns to burn.

 

Ect, ect, ect.

 

That's what I always thought (until someone insisted severly that I was wrong and then I couldn't really figure it out), each acting as a filter for the damage. Glad that's cleared up.

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I ran into a problem involving this card...

 

I had this on the field' date=' and the opponent had Prime Material Dragon.

I also had Nurse of the field, so..meh

 

In any case...what happens?

[/quote']

 

Depending on the order of which they were activated (basically as long as PMD wasn't the last one to hit the field) PMD and Simochi/Nurse would cancel each other out and then the other one (Simochi/Nurse) would cause the burn to go through as normal. If PMD were last, I think it would just cancel everything, I think, unless Simochi and Nurse stack, in that case, the burn alwasy go through on a 1-4-1 basis, it wouldn't double.

 

Ignore the above.

Each effect happens once.

 

Burn tries to happen with PMD and Simo out:

PMD changes it. Simo changes it. Nothing happens again, it stays as burn.

 

Heal tries in same situation:

Simo changes it. PMD changes it. Nothing else happens, it stays as heal.

 

Heal with PMD and 2x Simo:

Simo changes. PMD changes. Other Simo changes. It turns to burn.

 

Ect, ect, ect.

 

That's what I always thought (until someone insisted severly that I was wrong and then I couldn't really figure it out), each acting as a filter for the damage. Glad that's cleared up.

 

What about situations with multiple simochi and primes on the field?

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I ran into a problem involving this card...

 

I had this on the field' date=' and the opponent had Prime Material Dragon.

I also had Nurse of the field, so..meh

 

In any case...what happens?

[/quote']

 

Depending on the order of which they were activated (basically as long as PMD wasn't the last one to hit the field) PMD and Simochi/Nurse would cancel each other out and then the other one (Simochi/Nurse) would cause the burn to go through as normal. If PMD were last, I think it would just cancel everything, I think, unless Simochi and Nurse stack, in that case, the burn alwasy go through on a 1-4-1 basis, it wouldn't double.

 

Ignore the above.

Each effect happens once.

 

Burn tries to happen with PMD and Simo out:

PMD changes it. Simo changes it. Nothing happens again, it stays as burn.

 

Heal tries in same situation:

Simo changes it. PMD changes it. Nothing else happens, it stays as heal.

 

Heal with PMD and 2x Simo:

Simo changes. PMD changes. Other Simo changes. It turns to burn.

 

Ect, ect, ect.

 

That's what I always thought (until someone insisted severly that I was wrong and then I couldn't really figure it out), each acting as a filter for the damage. Glad that's cleared up.

 

What about situations with multiple simochi and primes on the field?

 

Depends on the order that they are played in I suppose.

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