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[Flame Dragon]

I'd like to get some feedback (or advice) on a deck I've been working on for a while. It's essentially a blue/black mill deck.

 

CREATURES (16)

 

4x Hedron Crab

4x Halimar Excavator

4x Jwari Shapeshifter

4x Umara Raptor

 

INSTANT/SORCERY (24)

 

4x Tome Scour

4x Spell Pierce

4x Memory Sluice

4x Mind Funeral

4x Counterspell

4x Glimpse the Unthinkable

 

LAND (20)

 

4x Watery Grave

4x Drowned Catacomb

2x Halimar Depths

2x Jwar Island Refuge

8x Island

 

Right now' date=' I have an idea to take out the [b']Umara Raptor[/b] for Agadeem Occultists - so I can take things out of their graveyard to add to my limited defenses. Also, I'm considering putting in Leyline of the Void in there to counteract the new Eldrazi monsters that shuffle the graveyard back into the library (and to make sure my opponent cannot recycle their resources).

 

Whatcha think?

 

The deck looks good. I'd say try to work Agadeem Occultist in with out taking out all the Umara Raptor since that work work as a good beatstick should you need one.

 

A lot of the Eldrazi monsters that return the grave to the deck cost A LOT to summon. And even then if they are summoned odds are they'll beat you before you get them to deck out since they have REALLY high attack. Also they only return the grave when they are destroyed.

[AlucardTheOld]

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Original:

 

Artifacts:

Obelisk of Naya

Coalition Relic

 

Lands:

Graypelt Refuge

Sejiri Refuge

Swamp x6

Forest x6

Mountain x6

Island x6

Plains x5

Terramorphic Expanse

Shivan Oasis

 

Sorcerys:

Slave of Bolas

Brain Bite

 

Enchantments:

Crystallization

 

Instants:

Branching Bolt

Fire // Ice x2

Offering to Asha

Hindering Light

Darigaaz's Charm

Rith's Charm

Treva's Charm

Rest for the Weary

Breath of Malfegor

Gerrard's Command

 

Creatures:

Singe-Mind Orge

Valley Rannet

Kederekt Creeper

Retaliator Griffin

Winged Coatl

Jhessian Zombies

Pale Recluse

Igneous Pouncer

Treva, the Renewer

Rith, the Awakener

Darigaaz, the Igniter

 

Side Board:

Beastmaster Ascension

Telepathy

Sangrite Backlash

Rip-Clan Crasher

Bant Sureblade

Grixis Grimblade

Armadillo Cloak x2

Grixis Sojourners

Reborn Hope

Jund Sojourners

Mistvein Borderpost

Sangrite Surge

Sewn-Eye Drake

Carrion Thrash

 

So what do you think

[Flame Dragon]

I'm not sure what to say about the new deck, but I just thought about it, and Jace would be really helpful in your mill deck.

 

I also got 2 Kazandu Tuskcallers for $5 so I'm happy

[Saturn of Elemia]

Well, I got to play my deck today - and it won all 3 games (even one against an Eldrazi deck). I put in the one Leyline of the Void I own in there. It came in handy. The guy was PISSED when he saw it hit the field. He could no longer hide behind his large Eldrazi. What made the guy frustrated further was when I robbed his graveyard of the lower Eldrazi with the Agadeem Occultist.

 

Just trying to figure out if I should try and use the Bloodchief Ascension tactic for this Deck for a secondary kill condition - in case I cannot get the Leyline out on the field. The ony thing I am having troube with is inflicting damage to activate the Ascension's effect. I could put in Countersquall or some kind of cheap damage spell - as the deck isn't meant to attack. Any suggestions?

[MarbleZone]

I have a mill deck of my own and I don't take the Ally approach; I rely on Traumatize + Haunting Echoes and Nemesis of Reason.

I'll post my deck in case you want to take some ideas, but keep in mind I don't purchase singles so I used what I got from boosters - it's not optimal, but it wins.

 

Lands:

1x Drowned Catacomb

2x Halimar Depths

2x Jwar Island Refuge

11x Island

8x Swamp

 

Creatures:

4x Hedron Crab

3x Kraken Hatchling

1x Drowner Initiate

2x Extractor Demon

2x Nemesis of Reason

 

Other Spells:

1x Jace Beleren

2x Sanity Grinding

2x Broken Ambitions

1x Dream Fracture

2x Twincast

4x Sign in Blood

1x Telemin Performance

1x Archive Trap

1x Mind Funeral

4x Tome Scour

1x Haunting Echoes

2x Traumatize

2x Sadistic Sacrament

 

Yes, it's a mess and ideally I'd have more than one copy of some cards (Mind Funeral, for one). It's another approach at milling, and it lacks counterspells, but admittedly, that's because I have around 40 budget decks and my few copies are all scattered around.

Also, don't worry too much about the Eldrazi if you're not playing Limited. I don't think they'll be terribly widespread, but don't quote me on this.

[Saturn of Elemia]

It's an interesting deck. I like how you use Nemesis of Reason and Haunting Echoes (Both of which I have in my sideboard). Good use of Drowner Initiate as well. Have you considered using Allies for milling - like the Jwari Shapeshifter and Halimar Excavator? They are relatively inexpensive and work surprisingly well.

 

You have a few too many lands, I believe. I keep hearing from the guys at the local card shop that 22 lands should be more than enough. I would suggest more split lands.

[MarbleZone]

Like I said, never tried the Ally approach, but I might if I find a few. ;)

I tend to keep my lands at 24 when I have no mana abilities elsewhere, it's how I was taught, but if I start mana flooding I'll fix it. M10duals are out of my budget, and the uncommon ones usually don't compensate coming in tapped with their second effect, so I don't use them that often.

What I do think I need is fewer 1-of's, more Mind Funerals and Haunting Echoes, but they're high in demand at my card shop so I can't get them...

[Saturn of Elemia]

You can always order them online. I know a site that has just about any card you're looking for - and some are rather inexpensive.

 

I know there is an artifact that makes sure that permanents that you play come out untapped - which helps for permanents that come out tapped (like the dual and special lands)