aussj4link Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm having hell fighting against synchros. Sychros are basically hacks for yugioh and I'm losing to them bad, no matter what I do to make my own monsters easy to summon, the damn synchros prove to be 10 times easier to summon and they come with almost unstoppable effects. last night I played on YVD and the guy I played several duels with - in one turn brought a psychic synchro (cant remember the name), Stardust Dragon, and Dark Armed Dragon to the field , then proceeded to remove dark monsters to clear my field and attack directly for game... I need to improve my deck to compete with them, so I was hoping the people here could help me. My deck is an attempt to make it easy to bring power to the field fast and wipe my opponents field while I'm at it, I know there is several monarchs in this deck but they are not the main focus. Deck: 40 Monsters: 17 Caius The Shadow Monarch ............x2Kuraz The Light Monarch .................x1Mobius The Frost Monarch ...............x1Marshmallon ....................................x1Spirit Reaper ...................................x1Cyber Valley ....................................x2Goblin Attack Force ..........................x2Jinzo ................................................x1Exploder Dragon ..............................x1Vanity's Fiend ..................................x3Metal Shooter ..................................x1White Horned Dragon ......................x1 Traps: 11 Zoma the Spirit ................................x1Metal Reflect Slime ...........................x1Bottomless Trap Hole .......................x2Dark Bribe ........................................x2Solemn Wishes ................................x2Draining Shield .................................x1Call of the Haunted ..........................x1Torrential Tribute ..............................x1 Spells: 12 Mausoleum of the Emperor ..............x3Mage Power .....................................x1United We Stand ..............................x1Soul Exchange ..................................x3Lightning Vortex ...............................x1Mystical Space Typhoon ....................x1Heavy Storm .....................................x1Brain Control .....................................x1 A few notes about why I put certain cards in: - The Solemn Wishes is an attempt to help with my payment from Mausoleum, if there is a better way or if you guys think I just shouldn't worry about my health please tell me. - Most of the low level monsters including Zoma and Reflect Slime are meant to be tributed or to stall. - Metal Shooter and White Horned Dragon are like test subjects lol, dunno if I want to use them or not. Metal shooter I thought was interesting because you would have to destroy it 3 times with effects to kill it, if I were to equip it with a Mage Power or United We Stand it would be quite a formidable card IMO. As for White Horned Dragon I noticed that if your opponent has 5 spells in his/her graveyard this card is a 1 tribute 3700 attack which is insane, put it in for its sheer power, though unfortunately it can't protect itself hardly. - The Cyber Valleys I've found many uses for but they are not any main support for this deck, they stall, make me draw, and get cards back from the grave. I like to normally like to say I have a way to do whatever I need, however its only if I actually have the cards needed at that moment, I think this is one of the things that's causing my losses. - Vanity's Fiend has so far been the only thing helping me with those blasted synchros but that is of course only if I can get him fast and protect him long enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Wow... This has no synergy at all... Choose a theme, then we can help. P.S. Well built decks have no problem with synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Your deck is pretty random, with various monsters that don't do well with each other. If you want a monarch deck, you can find it somewhere on this site. You'll pretty much need 3 Caius, 3 Raiza, 2 Cyber Dragons, 2 Treeborn frogs, and 2 Dandylions. What's amazing about Monarch decks is that they have Royal Oppression, which will stop Synchros and Dark Armed Dragon, which sound like a real problem for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Your deck is pretty random' date=' with various monsters that don't do well with each other. If you want a monarch deck, you can find it somewhere on this site. You'll pretty much need 3 Caius, 3 Raiza, 2 Cyber Dragons, 2 Treeborn frogs, and 2 Dandylions. What's amazing about Monarch decks is that they have Royal Oppression, which will stop Synchros and Dark Armed Dragon, which sound like a real problem for you.[/quote'] Only 2 Raiza and 1 treeborn are needed... Seriously people, get it right already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Only 2 Raiza and 1 treeborn are needed... Seriously people' date=' get it right already...[/quote'] i'm not good with monarchs obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Both of the above posters have it right. Pure beatdown decks don't work if you just grabbed a bunch of high attack monsters and put them in a 40 card stack. Synergy is what makes decks good, and this has none. I suggest you look over some of the themes posted on this site. But if you want something close to what you have here, a Monarch deck would be closest. You can find builds for that very easily. But yes, it's pretty much what they said. If you don't want a Monarch deck there are plenty of other decks to choose from. A very cheap and very good deck that's popular now is Machinas. Which is just 3 Starter Decks with a few cards added in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted April 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 I was looking for cards that don't just help each other and are only good if you have like 4 specific cards, I'm looking for cards that can hold their own. One thing I've found in the past, if you need 4 cards to make one good effect work, don't even bother because the trouble you will go through to get them will not be worth it, not to mention people will most likely stop you at every turn while your trying to get those cards. Most of my cards I chose because they can do well by themselves, they don't need me to have 2 more specific cards just to hold up. I honestly figured this was a theme, fast power to the field while simultaneously wiping out my opponents field ya know. I summon this thing with ease and your stuff dies lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Trust me, If the cards work well with each other, and if you have 1 solid strategy, you can do well. Don assume a Goblin Attack Force is good enough to do well by itself.But what's funny about synchros and DAD is that they are great card by themselves; they are also very easy to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted April 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Alright you win, but I refuse to use synchros. Can anyone recommend a good starter monarch deck? I wouldn't quite know where to start other than to get a bunch of monarchs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Alright you win' date=' but I refuse to use synchros.[/quote']Then just run Anti-Meta. Problem = solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Alright you win' date=' but I refuse to use synchros.[/quote']Then just run Anti-Meta. Problem = solvedOr Lightsworns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuclear beast Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Try some beast cards like monsterous animals or something thats my theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord dmoc Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Alright you win' date=' but I refuse to use synchros.[/quote']Then just run Anti-Meta. Problem = solvedOr Lightsworns. Thats a great idea, that's what I'm playing this format. Try some beast cards like monsterous animals or something thats my theme No, Beasts don't have the best way of beating the meta at the moment, if anything Beast it should be Gladiator Beasts. But, you should add Mirror Force and DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted April 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 After looking at a lot of monarch decks and their cards I decided to try to make one, its been working pretty well in YVD but I need some feedback. Deck: 40 Monsters: 20 Raiza the Storm Monarch ......................x2Caius the Shadow Monarch...................x3Mobius the Frost Monarch..................... x2Kuraz the Light Monarch........................x1Dark Armed Dragon...............................x1Jinzo......................................................x1Vanity's Fiend........................................x1 Battle Fader..........................................x2Treeborn Frog.......................................x2Danylion................................................x2Spirit Reaper.........................................x1Gravekeeper's Spy................................x2 Spells: 10 Brain Control.........................................x1Heavy Storm.........................................x1Mystical Space Typhoon........................x1Pot of Avarice.......................................x1Swords of Revealing Light....................x1Soul Exchange......................................x2Lightning Vortex...................................x1Allure of Darkness................................x1Gold Sarcophagus................................x1 Traps: 10 Bottomless Trap Hole...........................x2Torrential Tribute..................................x1Mirror Force...........................................x1Call of the Haunted...............................x1Raigeki Break........................................x2Royal Oppression..................................x2Metal Reflect Slime................................x1 From what I've noticed so far has been that Jinzo has been kinda hurting me the past few games with this deck. I have a Royal Oppression down and when my opponent goes to synchro I can't stop it because I have Jinzo out lol, its horrible I don't know whether or not to take him out. He helps and hurts at the same time there has been times when I had 3 monarchs and Jinzo out and my opponent has a mirror force down. Then there was time when I had Jinzo and my opponent summoned 2 synchros and took back the game. Several people kept saying my Swords was a bad card, but I kept winning because of it lol, whats your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 After looking at a lot of monarch decks and their cards I decided to try to make one' date=' its been working pretty well in YVD but I need some feedback. Deck: 40 Monsters: 20 Raiza the Storm Monarch ......................x2Caius the Shadow Monarch...................x3Mobius the Frost Monarch..................... x2 RemoveKuraz the Light Monarch........................x1 removeDark Armed Dragon...............................x1Jinzo......................................................x1 removeVanity's Fiend........................................x1 remove Battle Fader..........................................x2Treeborn Frog.......................................x2 take out 1Danylion................................................x2Spirit Reaper.........................................x1Gravekeeper's Spy................................x2 need another target Spells: 10 Brain Control.........................................x1Heavy Storm.........................................x1Mystical Space Typhoon........................x1Pot of Avarice.......................................x1 noSwords of Revealing Light....................x1 noSoul Exchange......................................x2 only 1Lightning Vortex...................................x1Allure of Darkness................................x1Gold Sarcophagus................................x1 Traps: 10 Bottomless Trap Hole...........................x2Torrential Tribute..................................x1Mirror Force...........................................x1Call of the Haunted...............................x1Raigeki Break........................................x2 remove for E-ConsRoyal Oppression..................................x2Metal Reflect Slime................................x1 no From what I've noticed so far has been that Jinzo has been kinda hurting me the past few games with this deck. I have a Royal Oppression down and when my opponent goes to synchro I can't stop it because I have Jinzo out lol, its horrible I don't know whether or not to take him out. He helps and hurts at the same time there has been times when I had 3 monarchs and Jinzo out and my opponent has a mirror force down. Then there was time when I had Jinzo and my opponent summoned 2 synchros and took back the game. Several people kept saying my Swords was a bad card, but I kept winning because of it lol, whats your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussj4link Posted April 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 What should I replace all these removes with? What do you mean by need another target on the Gravekeepers Spys? Are you sure Pot of Avarice is bad? It helps when I draw DAD and I have too many darks in my grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I will just give you a build... it will be much easier. 211 Gorz1 DAD3 Caius2 Raiza1 Chaos Sorcerer2 Cyber Dragon2 Thunder king2 Battle Fader2 Dandylion1 Treeborn Frog1 Sangan1 PSZ2 Krebons 121 Allure1 Soul Exchange1 E-Tele3 E-Con1 Brain Control1 Heavy Storm1 MST3 Smashing Ground 82 BTH1 TT1 Mirror1 CotH2 Oppression1 Solemn Judgment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Try some beast cards like monsterous animals or something thats my theme????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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