mythcaptor Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 As it enters tier 1, Id just like to trow my Machina Gadgets deck into the mix. please rate/fix *update* using all your great advise, I have done a lot of fixes on my deck, and now I've completed v.2. If I didnt thank you personally then thanks for the great fixes, everyone. Every single one helped me [spoiler=v.1]2 Green Gadget1 Machina Fortress3 Machina Gearframe3 Machina Sniper2 Red Gadget2 Scrap Recycler1 Snipe Hunter1 Tragoedia2 Yellow Gadget 3 Book of Moon1 Brain Control2 Creature Swap1 Fissure1 Mystical Space Typhoon2 Pot of Avarice3 Smashing Ground 2 Bottomless Trap Hole2 Raigeki Break2 Royal Oppression1 Solemn Judgment3 Dimensional Prison 40 cards v.22 Green Gadget3 Machina Fortress3 Machina Gearframe1 Machina Peacekeeper2 Machina Force2 Red Gadget2 Scrap Recycler1 Tragoedia2 Yellow Gadget 2 Book of Moon2 Creature Swap1 Fissure1 Mystical Space Typhoon2 Pot of Avarice3 Smashing Ground1 Limiter Removal1 Heavy Storm 2 Bottomless Trap Hole1 Raigeki Break2 Royal Oppression1 Solemn Judgment3 Dimensional Prison1 Torrential Tribute41 cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 -3 Machina Snipe-1 Snipe Hunter+2 Machina Fortress+1 Machina Peacekeeper -1 Creature Swap-1 Brain Control-2 Pot of Avarice+2 Fissure+1 Heavy Storm+1 Limiter Removal -2 Raigeki Break+1 Starlight Road+1 Torrential also Dimensional Prison is a trap :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 -2 Scrap Recycler-1 Tragoedia-1 Creature Swap/Mystical Space Typhoon+1 Foolish Burial+2 Machina Force+1 Starlight Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythcaptor Posted April 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 -3 Machina Snipe-1 Snipe Hunter+2 Machina Fortress+1 Machina Peacekeeper -1 Creature Swap-1 Brain Control-2 Pot of Avarice+2 Fissure+1 Heavy Storm+1 Limiter Removal -2 Raigeki Break+1 Starlight Road+1 Torrential also Dimensional Prison is a trap :Dmachina sniper is what i pull out as a beatstick, if i allready have oppression on the field this deck revolves around having a large hand, because of all the free pulls, so cards like ragaki break and Snipe hunter are important. Peacekeeper has low utility and sycronisity with the rest of the deck later in the game, but its hand early on, so I might run 1 because of how many cheap monsters this deck runs, having cards like creature swap and brain control is invaluable When running gadgets, Avarice is one of the most important cards. It not only recycles your machines, but it also gives you a larger hand Limiter and torrential, seem like like a good idea. I might run them. anyways thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 -3 Machina Snipe-1 Snipe Hunter+2 Machina Fortress+1 Machina Peacekeeper -1 Creature Swap-1 Brain Control-2 Pot of Avarice+2 Fissure+1 Heavy Storm+1 Limiter Removal -2 Raigeki Break+1 Starlight Road+1 Torrential also Dimensional Prison is a trap :Dmachina sniper is what i pull out as a beatstick' date=' if i allready have oppression on the field.[b']Machina Fortress makes for a better beatstick and you will not always have Oppression on the field. Plus with the removal, beatsticks arent needed, your gadgets should do the job.[/b] this deck revolves around having a large hand, because of all the free pulls, so cards like ragaki break and Snipe hunter are important. I know that. I've played Gadgets. you have enough 1 for 1 removal, so you dont need unnecessary cards like Raigeki Break or Snipe. Peacekeeper has low utility and sycronisity with the rest of the deck later in the game, but its hand early on, so I might run 1 It's a Sangan that searches Gearframe, its worth running at least 1 because of how many cheap monsters this deck runs, having cards like creature swap and brain control is invaluable I dont argue with that remark, Swap works best at 1....Brain is iffy....its not needed, but ill leave it up to you. When running gadgets, Avarice is one of the most important cards. It not only recycles your machines, but it also gives you a larger hand Recycler does that same job and doesnt require so many monsters to be in Grave. If you go through monsters that quickly, your not running Gadgets correctly Limiter and torrential, seem like like a good idea. I might run them. Glad you agree anyways thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 You definitely need more than 1 Fortress, and you should run at least 1 Machina Force so Fortress becomes a break-even summon if he's in the grave. So here's what I suggest:+2 Fortress+1 Force+1 Heavy Storm+1 Limiter Removal-3 Machina Sniper (Machina Fortress is just better in every possible way)-1 Sniper Hunter (I feel like this is space better used on something else, like a Limiter Removal)-1 Book of Moon? (Is 3 really necessary? I dunno, I feel like it's overkill) I dunno what to take out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 You definitely need more than 1 Fortress' date=' and you should run at least 1 Machina Force so Fortress becomes a break-even summon if he's in the grave. So here's what I suggest:+2 Fortress+1 Force+1 Heavy Storm+1 Limiter Removal-3 Machina Sniper (Machina Fortress is just better in every possible way)-1 Sniper Hunter (I feel like this is space better used on something else, like a Limiter Removal)-1 Book of Moon? (Is 3 really necessary? I dunno, I feel like it's overkill) I dunno what to take out though.[/quote'] You don't get it. Oh, and either I am missing something or this is a carbon copy of http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?id=2436 . Anyway, the concept isn't bad, but some card choices are bad. For example, Scrap Recycler, Snipe Hunter and Raigeki Break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 You definitely need more than 1 Fortress' date=' and you should run at least 1 Machina Force so Fortress becomes a break-even summon if he's in the grave. So here's what I suggest:+2 Fortress+1 Force+1 Heavy Storm+1 Limiter Removal-3 Machina Sniper (Machina Fortress is just better in every possible way)-1 Sniper Hunter (I feel like this is space better used on something else, like a Limiter Removal)-1 Book of Moon? (Is 3 really necessary? I dunno, I feel like it's overkill) I dunno what to take out though.[/quote'] You don't get it. Oh, and either I am missing something or this is a carbon copy of http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?id=2436 . Anyway, the concept isn't bad, but some card choices are bad. For example, Scrap Recycler, Snipe Hunter and Raigeki Break.What exactly don't I get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 That this is not the standard machina build. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Sorry I assumed he wanted the best Machina deck? I like how you call me out too, as opposed to the two other people making the same mistake. Eh, I stand by my advice, I don't see Machina's being built any other way and have them be as competitive as Machina Fortress funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Ok, next time I am going to spam the page by quoting 3 people instead of just one and the TC already replied to the other 2, but you decided to give similar "fixes". There are at least 5-6 different builds that are consistently topping regionals so I doubt that you know which one is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Ok' date=' next time I am going to spam the page by quoting 3 people instead of just one. There are at least 5-6 different builds that are consistently topping regionals so I doubt that you know which one is the best.[/quote'] Why do you doubt that exactly? Cuz I don't spend my life posting on this forum every day? Check my join date, I've been on this forum for nearly a YEAR longer than you have. Just cuz I'm not internet famous on this website, doesn't mean I'm an idiot. But this is a pointless argument because the people of this website are tools and will side with you blindly just because you have more posts than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 First 5 words of this topic are bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 *facepalm* Maybe because NO ONE knows what the best variant is. I don't think that you are different from everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Well, I'll admit bad word choice. From what I've played of the Machina's, the build my friend has seems to be the most consistent, and I gave those changes based on his build of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielpark22 Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 my build isnt perfect but i suggest u try it. its beaten Blackwings, lightsworns, winged beasts and mirror match.Monsters-171-snipe hunter2 machina soldier3 Fortress2 scrap recylcer 2 sets of traffic lights2 gear frames1 Machina force Spells - 113 book of moon3 smashing ground1 limiterheavymstm conb con traps- 11-12dustshoot (side if want)2 d-prison1 mirror force2 opressions1 starlightcoth2 bthsolemntorrential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythcaptor Posted April 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 I really dont see why people are saying to run force. It has near impossible summoning conditions, for a less than great card. Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 It's a level 10 star machine-type monster searchable by Gearframe. In other words, it's a walking monster reborn for Fortress.>.>I also love how you ignore my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythcaptor Posted April 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 sorry about ignoring your post :Panyways thanks, that makes sensedeck updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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