Proto Blaze Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 its more focused on control abyss soldier x3penguin soldier x3aqua spirit x3mermaid knight x3amphibious bugroth mk-3 x2nightmare penguin x3warrior of atlantis x3 a legendary ocean x3heavy stormmystical space typhoonbook of moonbrain controlsalvage x2moray of greedterraforminggold sarcophagus x2 mirror forcecall of the hauntedbottomless trap hole x2dark bribe x2tornado wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 a lot of the choices are bad.try codalos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 and how would i go about the codalos method? and how are the choices bad? the penguins clear the field. the warriors have good attack and can be used to get legendary ocean. then i can remove it from play to swarm with aqua spirit, and with legendary ocean on the field mermaid knight can attack twice... in fact i brought a duelist on the field to 800 life on the second turn (my first) in a duel using a combo similar to what i listed. then next turn he was at 0. i was lucky to have a dark bribe to counter his mirror force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laviathan707 Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 try a 3Xcreature swap and 3X mother grizzly so u attack ur mother grizzly w/ a mother grizzly and get 2 monsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 You don't need a Terraforming with 3 WoA. The reason you run the monster searcher is so that you don't have to run Terraforming since you can run WoA in 3's and not worry about it being a dead draw. -3 Aqua Spirit+3 Blizzard Dragon (simply better) This deck needs Aegis of the Ocean Dragon Lord since ALO makes most of the levels 3 or lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 aqua spirit would be better dont you think? you special summon it so you can get 2 monsters out on the field instead of one..also what do you guys think about gravity bind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 and how are the choices bad? What he meant is that most of your choices are the worse of the options you had' date=' such as Aqua over Blizzard or not running Coderus. The deck can be made a lot faster and more consistent, resulting in a lot more 2TK or OTKs.[hr']No, I'd prefer the beatstick, especially since you can leave their monster in ATK and it still can't declare an attack, allowing for more set up for more dmg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 ok i took out the moray of greed and amphibious bugroth for 2 corderus. and sorry for acting noobish but i cant see how 3 blizzards are better than aqua... its confusing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 actually aqua spirit is a sweet card. i prefer aquas to blizzards.bugroth is mediocre though.and tornado wall is stupid.mermaid knight is meh.nightmare penguin is better.theres just better options.why are there no mother grizzlies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 whats a better option for tornado wall? and i feel as if my deck has no need for mother grizzlies btw tronta... i think your the dude i used to look for on help with empty jar decks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 probably. i'm the resident empty jar pro. alright..the following are not needed:mermaid knight x3amphibious bugroth mk-3 x2nightmare penguin x3 terraforminggold sarcophagus x2 tornado wall the following are needed:codalosgrizzlyskreechmore salvagemore moraywater hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laviathan707 Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 like i said 3 creature swaps and 3 mother grizzlies so u can attack ur mother grizzly on ur opponents side of field and get a monster from ur deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 its a good strategy but you want more targets than just grizzly. especially if youre only running 3-3. so skreech helps for that, as he's another viable target for creature swapping. i'd only run the swap at 2 though. it doesnt get too many huge plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 im at this right now... what would you modify? 2x Abyss soldier2x That Shark thing2x Mother Grizzly2x Penguin Soldier2x Snowman eater 3x Armed Sea hunter3x Codarus3x warrior of atlantis Spells:101x Brain control1x Heavy storm1x Mystical space typhoon2x Book of Moon2x Gold sarcophagus2x Salvage3x A legendary ocean Traps: 111x Call of the haunted1x Mirror force1x Torrential Tribute2x Bottomless trap hole2x Starlight Road2x Forgotten Temple of the Deep2x Aegis of the Ocean Dragon Lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 I think you need more ATK power. You could add 'United We Stand' or 'Soliditary'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3RA PROWL3R Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 ATK POWER-United We Stand-Soliditary-Axe of Dispair-Cthonian Alliance (You have a lot of the same monsters)-Big Bang Shot (Its piercing effect)-Banner of Courage (Can be really useful) Big Wave Small Wave is good, especially for getting out higher-level monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 ^^^ignore tera. please. the water knowledgable people you wish to speak to on this site are daedalus, myself, and someone i've forgotten. daedalus knows far more than me though, as he has a hardon for his namesake. i'll go fetch my most recent build of daed so you can get a good idea of how it should be run. 2 daed 3 codarus 2 skreech 2 warrior of atlantis3 aqua spirit 2 fishborg2 poc3 grizzly19 2 salvage3 alo 2 psuedo space1 terra1 trunade1 brain control3 moray of greed1 card dest1 poa2 water hazard17 2 aegis2 bth4 deck 40 now this is still experimental and it might come to light that forgotten underwater temple is a better choice than psuedospace, which means i dont need terra anymore, freeing up some space for other cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 i dont want to run a daedalus build... i want to run a deck with the abyss soldier/ penguin soldier method... Abyss Soldier and Penguin Soldier Method: This method uses Abyss Soldier and Penguin Soldier to send cards back to the opponents hand and then allowing you to attack directly. Abyss Soldier is a powerful monster on his own with 1800 attack while A Legendary Ocean is on the field. Combine this method with swarming tactics like Aqua Spirit's effect or Mermaid Knight's double attack effect to hit for massive damage in one turn while attempting to shut down any chance of your opponent getting out powerful monsters. thats why my original build focused more on these cards... i want a deck built around getting cards off the field with codarus, abyss soldier, and penguin soldier.... and big damaging cards like mermaid knight combined with united we stand and its effect... and i had aqua spirit to speed it up a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 alright, so lets take another look at my deck: 2 daed3 codarus2 skreech2 warrior of atlantis3 aqua spirit2 fishborg2 poc3 grizzly19 2 salvage3 alo2 psuedo space1 terra1 trunade1 brain control3 moray of greed1 card dest1 poa2 water hazard17 2 aegis2 bth4 deck 40 you dont want a daed build, so alo doesnt really help you enough to be worthwhile.drop all of that: 2 skreech3 aqua spirit3 grizzly8 2 salvage1 trunade1 brain control3 moray of greed1 card dest1 poa2 water hazard11 2 bth2 deck 21 so now, we want control: 3 abyss soldier3 penguin soldier2 nightmare penguin2 skreech3 aqua spirit3 grizzly16 2 salvage1 trunade1 brain control3 moray of greed1 card dest1 poa2 water hazard11 2 bth2 deck 29 lets get a little bit more speed in here and a few more staples. 3 abyss soldier3 penguin soldier2 nightmare penguin2 skreech3 aqua spirit3 grizzly1 morphing jar17 2 salvage1 trunade1 heavy1 brain control3 moray of greed2 hand dest1 card dest1 poa2 water hazard14 2 bth2 waboku4 deck 35 now lets try something interesting. lets add jar2 and a few books. 3 abyss soldier3 penguin soldier2 nightmare penguin2 skreech3 aqua spirit3 grizzly1 morphing jar2 mj219 2 salvage1 trunade1 heavy1 brain control3 moray of greed2 hand dest1 card dest1 poa2 water hazard3 book of moon17 2 bth2 waboku4 deck 40 now this looks interesting, but i'm not super fond of the numbers. let me mess with them and add tuners: 3 abyss soldier2 penguin soldier2 skreech3 aqua spirit3 grizzly1 morphing jar2 mj22 mist valley soldier1 plague19 3 salvage1 trunade1 heavy1 brain control1 mind control3 moray of greed2 hand dest1 card dest1 poa2 water hazard2 book of moon18 2 bth2 waboku4 deck 41 there. so i dont know how well this will actually play. but it seems interesting to say the least. i also eventually decided nightmare penguin wasnt worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 whats poa and poc? and i will try the last 2 builds and post how they run. also i thought codarus was supposed to be a staple in water decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 pot of avaricephantom of chaos codarus is only a staple in alo decks, which should be running daedalus anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 also why plague spreader zombie? and are the last two builds different decks or is the last deck the final build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 the last deck in that post is the final build i came up with. obviously testing will probably result in some major deck changes. and plaguespreader is like the divine tuner. you can stick him in any deck for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proto Blaze Posted April 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 but why tune if theres no synchros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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