Cutting - [Serious Disc Only]

[Cin]

Being a serious discussion. Half the people have said people who cut themselves are attention whores... Wow. A mod can lock this thread now.

 

And that makes it true? At the end of the day the only one's who really know the truth are the self harmers of which cutting isn't the only method.

[Cyber Altair]

I get it but I wouldn't really do it.

 

Well maybe I would, who knows?

[CinnamonStar]

I hate how it has become a cliché about "emos" or attention-whoring teens who have nothing to do.

Not all emos cut themselves, far from it, and not everyone who cuts himself is an emo. People should learn the difference between music genres/clichés that get pushed in the media and personalities.

 

Cutting IS a serious issue, personally I don't really understand anymore what could be the motives behind it, but the same way I don't understand what could be the reason for someone to become anorexic because I eat way too much. But I think one reason is self-guilt, something horrible happened like a rape and you think it's all because of you. Or any other reason that makes you think you need to be punished and deserve no better.

And other people have serious self-control issues and might cut or harm themselves, or tear their hair out, I think it could be related.

[Amethyst Phoenix]

Now' date=' when someone who cuts themselves initially cuts themselves, they can feel the serotonin being released(I know, I've done this before). They realize, [b']"oh snap, this helps me feel better"[/b] and thus, continue to do it.

 

 

B) They're insane masochists.

 

 

So Yeah.

[WTF]

Now' date=' when someone who cuts themselves initially cuts themselves, they can feel the serotonin being released(I know, I've done this before). They realize, [b']"oh snap, this helps me feel better"[/b] and thus, continue to do it.

 

 

B) They're insane masochists.

 

 

So Yeah.

 

so is that it?

[EHN.]

As soon as I saw that Yankee posted I knew it couldn't be a serious disc. lol.

[GraveHorizon]

I tried using a knife to see if it could easily pierce my skin so I could bleed out and die, but it didn't work, since the knife wasn't sharp enough and I don't like pain. That was back in my suicide days. I didn't do it for attention, I don't tell people I know about it, and I wasn't high, on drugs or insane. Suicide isn't the answer, but sometimes... doesn't feel that way. The only thing keeping me going these days is laziness (killing myself is too much work) and I don't want to miss what's on TV.

[Yankee]

@ Neos: >_>

[Smear]

My friends friends put a razorblade in their mouth. and cut, 'DIE' into her wrist.

 

I was like, D00D WTF?

[BehindTheMask]

Now' date=' when someone who cuts themselves initially cuts themselves, they can feel the serotonin being released(I know, I've done this before). They realize, [b']"oh snap, this helps me feel better"[/b] and thus, continue to do it.

 

 

B) They're insane masochists.

 

 

So Yeah.

 

Touche' date=' I see your point now. It is just so much clearer now that I see how much research and personal experience you've put into it, and not just personal bias. It's like you chose so research and have a valid opinion, rather than an object moral argument.

 

Oh wait, I was reading [b']my[/b] argument. Silly me.

[Amethyst Phoenix]

Now' date=' when someone who cuts themselves initially cuts themselves, they can feel the serotonin being released(I know, I've done this before). They realize, [b']"oh snap, this helps me feel better"[/b] and thus, continue to do it.

 

 

B) They're insane masochists.

 

 

So Yeah.

 

Touche' date=' I see your point now. It is just so much clearer now that I see how much research and personal experience you've put into it, and not just personal bias. It's like you chose so research and have a valid opinion, rather than an object moral argument.

 

Oh wait, I was reading [b']my[/b] argument. Silly me.

 

Might I direct your attention to the following:

 

 

Yet self-harm is different from taking drugs. Anybody can take drugs and feel good. With self-injury, if it works for you, that's an indication that an underlying issue needs be dealt with -- possibly significant psychiatric issues. If you're a healthy person, you might try it, but you won't continue.

 

 

 

Oh hey look, other people can do research too Mr High Horse!

 

 

And your "Personal Experience" adds bias to everything you say as well. In fact, bias influences everything anyone ever said in the history of the universe, to some degree.

[Raylen]

I hate how it has become a cliché about "emos" or attention-whoring teens who have nothing to do.

Not all emos cut themselves' date=' far from it, and not everyone who cuts himself is an emo. People should learn the difference between music genres/clichés that get pushed in the media and personalities.

 

Cutting IS a serious issue, personally I don't really understand anymore what could be the motives behind it, but the same way I don't understand what could be the reason for someone to become anorexic because I eat way too much. But I think one reason is self-guilt, something horrible happened like a rape and you think it's all because of you. Or any other reason that makes you think you need to be punished and deserve no better.

And other people have serious self-control issues and might cut or harm themselves, or tear their hair out, I think it could be related.

[/quote']

 

Summed up my point. I ask for a serious discussion and people say emo people are attention whores. Some heartless people.

 

They are people that need help.

[Amethyst Phoenix]

I hate how it has become a cliché about "emos" or attention-whoring teens who have nothing to do.

Not all emos cut themselves' date=' far from it, and not everyone who cuts himself is an emo. People should learn the difference between music genres/clichés that get pushed in the media and personalities.

 

Cutting IS a serious issue, personally I don't really understand anymore what could be the motives behind it, but the same way I don't understand what could be the reason for someone to become anorexic because I eat way too much. But I think one reason is self-guilt, something horrible happened like a rape and you think it's all because of you. Or any other reason that makes you think you need to be punished and deserve no better.

And other people have serious self-control issues and might cut or harm themselves, or tear their hair out, I think it could be related.

[/quote']

 

Summed up my point. I ask for a serious discussion and people say emo people are attention whores. Some heartless people.

 

They are people that need help.

 

They do need help.

 

People that do it for the attention are messed up in the head.

 

And I know people that do it for the attention, and openly boast about how cool they are for it. Not everyone has gigantic problems in their life. Some people are just stupid warped individuals.

[Raylen]

Fair enough. There are people who are warped individuals, but can you generalize like that? If I am Russian (which I am) and I am Communist (which I am not), does it mean all Russians are Communists?

[CinnamonStar]

Yeah I think people who just do it for attention are histrionics and that's a mental issue too.

But people who just do it to be "cool" or yeah, because they're warped individuals are usually posers, however they're rare.

 

You can usually notice the difference when people wear long sleeves and try to hide it, compared to when people show it off like idiots. That's where the seriousness starts for me.

[Tkill93]

Because when you cut yourself, your brain relases enforphins that relieve pain and a sense of well being. Thus relieving psychological pain. The same thing happens when you exercise though, so there really is no point in cutting yourself. Unless you're a 16 year old girl living with a middle class family with a nice house and a nice car looking for attention.

[WTF]

Because when you cut yourself' date=' your brain relases enforphins that relieve pain and a sense of well being. Thus relieving psychological pain. The same thing happens when you exercise though, so there really is no point in cutting yourself. Unless you're a 16 year old girl living with a middle class family with a nice house and a nice car looking for attention.

[/quote']

 

Cutting is indeed a psychological problem. The cut themselves so they can fell there emotional pain through physical pain.

[Amethyst Phoenix]

Fair enough. There are people who are warped individuals' date=' but can you generalize like that? If I am Russian (which I am) and I am Communist (which I am not), does it mean all Russians are Communists?

[/quote']

 

Hence the other options.

 

The one you seem to think encompasses the majority would be....

 

D) They're stupid depressed people that think wounding yourself with sharp objects fixes your problems.

 

 

 

I say stupid because.......well seriously, how does it make any sense whatsoever that inflicting bodily harm upon yourself will fix anything?

[Taion]

Because they think can bleed out their "pain"

[Amethyst Phoenix]

Because they think can bleed out their "pain"

 

Which is insane.

 

It's impossible to bleed pain out, considering it's an impulse across nerves. It has nothing to do with blood.

 

Emotional pain logically would be located in the brain. Maybe they should just lobotomize themselves >_>

[Yankee]

Yeah I think people who just do it for attention are histrionics and that's a mental issue too.

But people who just do it to be "cool" or yeah' date=' because they're warped individuals are usually posers, however they're rare.

 

You can usually notice the difference when people wear long sleeves and try to hide it, compared to when people show it off like idiots. That's where the seriousness starts for me.

[/quote']

 

 

Yea, every day for me. I'm lucky my parents somehow haven't noticed.

 

 

Because when you cut yourself' date=' your brain relases enforphins that relieve pain and a sense of well being. Thus relieving psychological pain. The same thing happens when you exercise though, so there really is no point in cutting yourself. Unless you're a 16 year old girl living with a middle class family with a nice house and a nice car looking for attention.

[/quote']

 

Exercise is usually a public thing. When a person is in such a complete low to even think about cutting, being in public is not an option. Also, from experience, being in public, and forcing yourself to act actually hurts more.

 

 

Fair enough. There are people who are warped individuals' date=' but can you generalize like that? If I am Russian (which I am) and I am Communist (which I am not), does it mean all Russians are Communists?

[/quote']

 

Hence the other options.

 

The one you seem to think encompasses the majority would be....

 

D) They're stupid depressed people that think wounding yourself with sharp objects fixes your problems.

 

 

 

I say stupid because.......well seriously, how does it make any sense whatsoever that inflicting bodily harm upon yourself will fix anything?

 

You're an idiot.

[Amethyst Phoenix]

Fair enough. There are people who are warped individuals' date=' but can you generalize like that? If I am Russian (which I am) and I am Communist (which I am not), does it mean all Russians are Communists?

[/quote']

 

Hence the other options.

 

The one you seem to think encompasses the majority would be....

 

D) They're stupid depressed people that think wounding yourself with sharp objects fixes your problems.

 

 

 

I say stupid because.......well seriously, how does it make any sense whatsoever that inflicting bodily harm upon yourself will fix anything?

 

You're an idiot.

 

Well excuse me for not automatically being able to fathom whatever twisted logic goes into that.

 

I suppose that means I don't understand you. That's a reason people cut themselves right? Because nobody understands them?

 

Here, you can even borrow my pocket knife.

 

*hands knife*

 

Just make sure you clean it before you give it back.

 

 

 

The bottom line is this:

 

No matter what reasons you have for it, you're cutting yourself with a knife to solve your problems. You are screwed up in the head. It won't solve your problems, and you need psychological help. Maybe, just maybe, you can turn your funked up life around. You're the one being an idiot. Pitiful really.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Cutting is a MODERN psychological problem.

[/fixed]

 

Get off the high horse. Something's obviously causing you to do it' date=' and such behavior is hysterically new in the Human World. Nor is it something thats well... yeah.

 

I'm pretty sure one day someone said; [i']"Instead of pulling my hair, I'll cut myself to relieve the pain because well you know... people will notice and get concerned. Which is kinda why I freak out anyway, to let others know I'm going through tough times. But instead of doing it publicly like a normal panic attack, I'll do it in private so I can be all defensive. yeah yeah!"[/i]

 

*sigh* Humanity, you never cease to make me frown upon your failure. (And no I'm not saying this applies to everyone as it'd be impossible to do so, but a good chunk of you... yes).

[Cin]

As someone who was diagnosed with depression last year, the last thing I want to be classed as a stupid depressed person. RA I find some of your comments very upsetting, and it shows you have no sense to even bother to be sensitve about such a painfully raw issue for some people. You can't just call someone screwed it up in the head, they know there's something wrong, but its so hard to want to do something about it.

 

I used to use a sweat band to cover my wrist when I self harmed, and at other times when it became its worse, I managed sure not to cut below the length of my short sleeved top. Where I've scarred now, so I'm never happy to go swimming anymore.

[Theseus]

Well, when you get hurt, endorphins are released. They are the body's natural anesthetics, and they make you feel happier, so people with deep emotional problem, like my ex-girlfriend for example, will cut themselves to make them feel happy for the short time the endorphins work.