Guide to OCG Fixes

[Parting Shot]

It shouldn't be on a printed card' date=' yes, but for reviewing and such - all that needs to happen in RC - it is superior because it communicates the exact same message - nothing more or less - in much fewer words, making the card more visually appealing by not being wordy for no reason.

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"Visually appealing" is completely relative. Relative statements do not make a good basis for argument. What might be beautiful to one person could be utterly gross to someone else.

 

Also, being wordy is, basically, the nature of YGO, so changing that makes your card worse not better as it no longer fits in the status quo.

[-Griffin]

"Visually appealing" is completely relative. Relative statements do not make a good basis for argument. What might be beautiful to one person could be utterly gross to someone else.

 

Also' date=' being wordy is, basically, the nature of YGO, so changing that makes your card worse not better as it no longer fits in the status quo.

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Right, so I'll make sure all my statements are redundant, instead of, 'destroy and remove from play the targeted card', 'destroy the targeted card and remove it from play instead of sending it to the Graveyard' - not 100% shorthand is fine, but redundancy isn't needed =/

 

EDIT: Josh told me this seems to come across as to hostile. Sorry if it does, didn't mean to offend anyone, I'm just enjoying a friendly debate to see if we can come to a reasoned conclusion on a superior form of wording.

[MarshyK-XS]

brillliant guide and help book that I would recomend to be stickied for all new members to see and patchup on their OCG

 

~MK

[ComingSoonNOT123]

nice thread for newbies, but i doubt they'll use...

i still believe it's better for them to learn OCG through trial and error, it'll allow them to experience and explore different aspects that are significant to ycm

[PenguinZ]

great guide.

[Yankee]

Uh...

Griffin, you're wrong ^_\\\

 

As you said yourself, it should be on a real card.

This is realistic cards. Realistic = real.

[/win]?

 

No.

 

Just because people know what something means, doesn't mean it's correct. You should know that.

Piercing damage was the term given to the effect by people that played with it, and eventually, the show. The correct term is the longer, more "wordy" version.

 

I'd post more, but I'm too lazy, and I think I have said what had to be said.

[-Griffin]

IMO, keeping the 'correct' wording is a mistake on Konami's part and I see no reason to conform to an entirely misguided idea. It seems that you people are preaching, "do the official thing - because it's official!" I don't get that. The short term seems sensible and, with only a line or two definition in future rule books, simply better.

 

It's a form of hypocrisy, "you can't be better than Konami." Yet, with that logic, our cards are no more useful that Larvae Moth or balanced than Cyber Jar. The "official" wording is anything but static - changing to update to newer, clearer and more streamlined versions fairly often. Surely, there's no solid reason to say we can't be better than Konami on wording.

 

If we acted as though "Realistic" was an unbreakable law of every aspect of card making, why not ban any image of anything related to a franchise, or copyrighted? How many of you would say that there was something definitely wrong with Sephiroth's card here:

 

just because the image is from an anime and it couldn't be printed? It's clearly not pop-culture.

 

For all it's worth, OCG needs to be no more than understandable. It can be a creative art as much as the effect itself, any end to achieve the means of communicating what the card does while keeping it interesting by keeping it no longer than it need be, rather than ramble with filler words.

 

Honestly, I disagree with this guide as a whole. It's possible to find old cards that haven't been errata'd and still have old OCG. In the same light, a card released in the latest pack might not be correct OCG 2 packs from now. No matter how much you cite Konami's work, your OCG won't be perfect from it. If you can word something clearer than Konami, even if 'real' cards use it differently, then you might be using the OCG that appears 2 packs from now. Fitting into Konami's OCG seems like a fruitless and pointless exercise that can be surpassed sometimes by sense. Konami's cards are usually worded better than what people make up - that's because they have worked on it through the entire life of Yugioh - but that doesn't mean their word should be God's on every effect. They aren't perfect, and I believe that the 'piercing' situation is one of those aspects in which they have yet to reach the pinacle of good wording - there's nothing wrong with us getting there first.

 

And again, not trying to sound rude or mean, this is just my thoughts and I'm happy to discuss with people. Please, by all means, state your own case, I'd be glad to listen, this is as much about learning as anything!

^-^

[usetheforcehan]

I 90% agree with Griffin. Card's lore must be simple, short and contain no more than 5 sentences. A card that have more than 5 sentences is unfriendly to the eyes and annoying. I agree a card's lore must have detail in explanation so that the reader doesn't get confused. But is it wrong if we make the card's lore more simple? more shorter?

[♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥]

Looks like Josh finally gave in to the hordes of people begging for the OCG thread.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Looks like Josh finally gave in to the hordes of people begging for the OCG thread.

 

I swear I read it as Joshy xD.

And not really... Well sorta... I wanted a version that was Kid Friendly, without being so elitist and forceful. This thread was the solution.

[EHN.]

Great guide, definitely help some members including me xD

[WTF]

Thank You.

[Master White]

I was just wondering, it deals with OCG. People keep asking what Release/Releasing, Advance Summon/Summoned. But you have it in the OCG THREAD as Master Rule OCG. I was wondering if you could announce that or soemthing so I and others don't have to keep posting that in our thread.

 

OCG Thread link is in my sig.

[Tunerwizard]

Great Guide, I knew most of it though.

I'm looking for specific OCG corrections, such as; punctuation, what should be capped, spacing, and other things.

[Parting Shot]

I was just wondering' date=' it deals with OCG. People keep asking what Release/Releasing, Advance Summon/Summoned. But you have it in the OCG THREAD as Master Rule OCG. I was wondering if you could announce that or soemthing so I and others don't have to keep posting that in our thread.

 

OCG Thread link is in my sig.

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Release and Advance Summon are used in the Japanese version of the TCG (also called the OCG (Original Card Game), but not to be confused with the OCG that means Official Card Grammar). Since this site is based on the English version of the game, Release and Advance Summon are not correct grammar. If you're one of the people that makes their cards in Japanese and simply posts the translation in English, then by all means feel free to use Japanese OCG to your heart's content.

 

Also, you shouldn't link people to the OCG thread anymore. It was unstuck because it is outdated and somewhat incorrect and, as such, not the best place to reference. Hopefully there will be an updated version soon (if I ever get around to writing it :P). But, as always, the very best place to check for OCG is on the TCG cards themselves.

[jeal1995]

this is a good guide it really helped me in some cards thanks keep on the good work

[cleair]

Hi friends :lol:

Thanks for information