El Majishan Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 We all know them, some of us love them, other hate them. But what are they really? A good archtype with good support or just broken and over powered? What can be done to balance them (if they need to be) and what are their pros and cons. Go YCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Whirlwind is the problem card otherwise they are a good archtype. Vayu is possibly a problem. Not in the same league as whirlwind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 The fact Vayu gets under oppression for no reason at all is a problem imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 There's only those two that are the issues with balance in Blackwings. Vayu gets random +1s out of thin air, and Whirlwind makes them all Gadgets... If Vayu had an added cost, and Whirlwind was similar to Machina Armored Unit, then neither would be very broken, and the whole archetype would be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 What about Kalut? Should there be a ruling you can use only one per damage step? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Kalut is fine, it's good support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I've never seen Vayuwings in action, but its random +1s seem more like random occasional +1s eating up useful Extra Deck cards. The main problem cards are/were Gale and Whirlwind. Whirlwind might need to be Limited, but other than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted April 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 Vayu goes like this. I use Icarus Attack with Vayu to clear your field Vayu + Sircco = Armed WingVayu + Elphin = Armor Master If I have Burial I can end up with 4 synchros on the field with out losing any real card advantage and you couldn't Oppression any of them. I win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Flame Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 My main problem with them is that they don't take much skill to use (the basic variety, not vayusworns or the other variations) and there are way too many crow wannabe newbs using them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Whirlwind at 3 was crazy.Vayu is not really a problem, but Whirlwind makes a summon a +1/2 Fun to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 @Obv iHop: What are you talking about? VayuSworn takes the least skill, Standard takes the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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