~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Basically spamming Monarchs, returning and backrow destruction, and smacking hard, with Plasma Techs for this combo: I also want to shut down the opponent really quickly. Imperial Iron Wall (Maybe) + FuFu with CyDra + Random Tuner = Quillbolt Spam for Plasma negating? |Monsters|24|1 Plaguespreader Zombie3 Caius the Shadow Monarch2 Dandylion2 Quickdraw Synchron2 Cyber Dragon3 Quillbolt Hedgehog1 Krebons2 Mobius2 Destiny Hero - Plasma1 A Cat of Ill Omen1 Tragoedia1 Debris1 Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind2 Level Eater |Spells|10|1 Foolish Burial1 Brain Control1 Mind Control3 Mass Driver1 Enemy Controller2 Gold Sarcophagus1 Future Fusion |Traps|6|3x Imperial Iron Wall1x Reckless Greed1x Ultimate Offering1x Mirror Force I like the way this has tested. First time I dueled with this I did it on WC10 against Judgement Dragon, (suicide d00d.) And it turned out pretty well. I first used FuFu, sending CyDra and 3 Quillbolts to the Grave, and then discarded Dandylion to summon Quickdraw, getting 2 Fluff Tokens, setting Mirror Force, Ultimate Offering, and Imperial Iron Wall. On his turn I flipped up Iron Wall, and sent back his monsters with Mirror Force. Then, discarding a CyDra, I summoned another Quickdraw, and Synchro'd with Fluffz for Nitro Warrior. Then, I activated the effect of the three Quillbolts, summoning them up, summoned Plasma, summoned Quillbolts again due to Imperial Iron Wall, and activated Ultimate Offering for Mobius, which eliminated his backrow, and attacked for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Reckless Greed is a 3/0 card because 2 or more offsets the negative advantage of each card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Eh, I needed a filler.Any suggestions on its removal? And do you think the Deck would be slightly competitive?Because on the Test Duel it was godly fast, I could barely fit any more monsters on the field. Chucked Mass Driver in with some changes for a last resort finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 -1 Reckless Greed+1 Ultimate Offering Is the first thing I see. Ultimate Offering is semi'd and allows you to summon Monarchs during their Battle Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 -1 Reckless Greed+1 Ultimate Offering Is the first thing I see. Ultimate Offering is semi'd and allows you to summon Monarchs during their Battle Phase. That is really exactly what I was thinking' date=' I was building this on YVD, ditched the Reckless for Ultimate, and then saw your comment. xD How do you think this'll run?It was a pretty random thought I had and it was incredibly fun to swarm the field with 5 cards on the second turn. ;D I'm getting a bit cautious of Starlight Road.Maybe -1 Mobius, +1 Raiza? And I just had an awesome finisher of a duel - he activated JD's nuke effect, I chained with Ultimate Offering, got out Caius when he had 800 left, and removed Caius to take the crucial 1000. :[b'][/b]D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 And I just had an awesome finisher of a duel - he activated JD's nuke effect' date=' I chained with Ultimate Offering, got out Caius when he had 800 left, and removed Caius to take the crucial 1000. :[b'][/b]D That wouldn't work since Ultimate Offering can only activate during your Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase as stated on the card. However, you can use it to summon a Monarch during a chain if it's in your main phase or opponent's Battle Phase. -2 Mobius+2 Raiza I didn't see the Mobius when I looked through before, otherwise I would have said that. I can't give much help, I'm not familiar in either Monarchs or Quickdraw varients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzy™ Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Nice deck.Maybe take out A Cat of Ill Omen and a Mobius and +2 Raiza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Yeah, I don't like Cat of Ill Omen, but IIW is needed to really let the deck shine. You may want some negation to protect IIW, it helps a lot of decks to be on the field, but they may decide it's better to remove it than let it stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 And I just had an awesome finisher of a duel - he activated JD's nuke effect' date=' I chained with Ultimate Offering, got out Caius when he had 800 left, and removed Caius to take the crucial 1000. :[b'][/b]D That wouldn't work since Ultimate Offering can only activate during your Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase as stated on the card. However, you can use it to summon a Monarch during a chain if it's in your main phase or opponent's Battle Phase. -2 Mobius+2 Raiza I didn't see the Mobius when I looked through before, otherwise I would have said that. I can't give much help, I'm not familiar in either Monarchs or Quickdraw varients. It's not really a Quickdraw Variant, but an overall Monarch build, with a definete Win Condition, and insta Monarch Swarm which takes out the field, with Quillbolts. This really is a Quillbolt Monarch Deck. :l Thanks for the comment. ^^ @Fayaz:Ehh, not really.Because I have enough Tributes to come as it is, and A Cat of Ill Omen is my searcher for Imperial Iron Wall, and if I have that, possibly Ultimate Offering.And, I like the way Cat runs here, getting my Trap Buddies out. It actually saved me once getting a 2nd Imperial because the next turn Imperial was destroyed. But really if I have Imperial, a Tuner, and Future Fusion, and maybe Mass Driver, it's game over. But I can easily get Monarchs out for elimination here.Yeah' date=' I don't like Cat of Ill Omen, but IIW is needed to really let the deck shine. You may want some negation to protect IIW, it helps a lot of decks to be on the field, but they may decide it's better to remove it than let it stay.[/quote'] Normally I get IIW, then followed by Cat, so I get a second most of the time so it kind of is backup. :D This runs better than I thought, actually. o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 I'm still not familiar with Monarch decks, but I do know Raiza and Caius are usually prefered over other Monarchs, Caius for removal and Raiza for spinning, forcing them to have a dead draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Dead draws for the opponents are fun. :D This Deck is repeatedly winning games, just simply sending Quills to the Grave is useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Yeah, the deck doesn't need IIW to be fast and effective, but to abuse Mass Driver it does. You may want to try a varient where it attempts to work without IIW and Mass Driver, simply for proof of concept, so that you can make this deck less dependent on IIW. I don't think it is, but it wouldn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Yeah' date=' the deck doesn't need IIW to be fast and effective, but to abuse Mass Driver it does. You may want to try a varient where it attempts to work without IIW and Mass Driver, simply for proof of concept, so that you can make this deck less dependent on IIW. I don't think it is, but it wouldn't hurt.[/quote'] It's not that dependant, but hell it's fun. Even without IIW and Mass Driver it runs effectively 'cos it can still get 3 Monarchs out with the Quillbolts and Ultimate. Eh, I have loads of control cards for Monarch Abuse, and hell this Deck is fun. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 The idea behind this is good and all, but there are just too many monsters here :/ I would scratch the Monarch idea from here, possibly keep 2 Caius, the Plasmas etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Yeah' date=' the deck doesn't need IIW to be fast and effective, but to abuse Mass Driver it does. You may want to try a varient where it attempts to work without IIW and Mass Driver, simply for proof of concept, so that you can make this deck less dependent on IIW. I don't think it is, but it wouldn't hurt.[/quote'] It's not that dependant, but hell it's fun. Even without IIW and Mass Driver it runs effectively 'cos it can still get 3 Monarchs out with the Quillbolts and Ultimate. Eh, I have loads of control cards for Monarch Abuse, and hell this Deck is fun. :D Maybe take out 1-2 Mass Driver to make room for other stuff? You could make Creature Swap work with Quillbolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 @Xander: I agree about it's heavy on monsters, but it works well.Any suggestions on how for to improve that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Oh, yah. If you're going to run IIW, Caius is going to be a problem here. As DAZ said, try this deck without IIW. I would try something like this out: Monsters: 20 2 Caius the Shadow Monarch2 Raiza the Storm Monarch2 Quickdraw Synchron2 Cyber Dragon1 Tragoedia1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness 3 Quillbolt Hedgehog2 Debris Dragon2 Dandylion1 Krebons1 Plaguespreader Zombie1 Sangan Spells: 11 2 Book of Moon2 Pot of Avarice2 Gold Sarcophagus1 Foolish Burial1 Brain Control1 Mind Control1 Heavy Storm1 Giant Trunade Traps: 9 2 Bottomless Trap Hole2 Dimensional Prison2 Ultimate Offering1 Starlight Road1 Mirror Force1 Torrential Tribute *Generic Extra Deck with lolYusei Synchros teched* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Kay, so, removing that for what..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 *facepalm* How didn't I see the Caius/IIW conflict, I feel stupid now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 *facepalm* How didn't I see the Caius/IIW conflict' date=' I feel stupid now...[/quote'] *Just realises*Oshi- @Xander:Just saw your edit.I like it, but really overall I wanted a Quillbolt OTK with Mass Driver, probably too much to reach for. :/ I'll see how yours runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzy™ Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 *facepalm* How didn't I see the Caius/IIW conflict' date=' I feel stupid now...[/quote'] *Just realises*Oshi- @Xander:Just saw your edit.I like it, but really overall I wanted a Quillbolt OTK with Mass Driver, probably too much to reach for. :/ I'll see how yours runs. If your running the IIW build, just replace Caius with Raiza to avoid the conflict maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 @Fayaz:I replaced Mobius with Raiza. Sure, I'll go run 5 Raiza then. /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 @Fayaz:I replaced Mobius with Raiza. Sure' date=' I'll go run 5 Raiza then. /sarcasm[/quote'] First post still has Mobius @ 2. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Oleon~ Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 I'll update soon. I'll get Yankee to edit it because I'm too lazy. D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzy™ Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 @Fayaz:I replaced Mobius with Raiza. Sure' date=' I'll go run 5 Raiza then. /sarcasm[/quote'] Keep Mobius. Use Raiza instead of Caius since it doesn't get an effect when IIW is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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