burnpsy Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Issues to Fix: Weakness to D.D. Crow, Skill Drain, Oppression, GBs, Chimeratech Fortress Dragon, etc. Overall, the Side Deck is inadequate. [spoiler=Picture Form] Morphtronic OTK (40) Monsters (21) 2x Cyber Dragon3x Cyber Valley2x Morphtronic Boarden3x Morphtronic Boomboxen3x Morphtronic Celfon3x Morphtronic Radion3x Morphtronic Remoten2x Morphtronic Scopen Spells (14) 1x Brain Control1x Giant Trunade1x Heavy Storm1x Inferno Reckless Summon3x Junk Box1x Limiter Removal2x Machine Duplication2x Morphtronic Accelerator1x One for One1x Reasoning Traps (5) 2x Bottomless Trap Hole1x Mirror Force1x Return from the Different Dimension1x Torrential Tribute Extra Deck (15) 1x Ancient Fairy Dragon1x Ancient Sacred Wyvern1x Armory Arm1x Black Rose Dragon1x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon2x Chimeratech Overdragon1x Colossal Fighter1x Goyo Guardian1x Magical Android1x Power Tool Dragon2x Stardust Dragon1x Thought Ruler Archfiend1x XX-Saber Gottoms Side Deck (15) 2x Compulsory Evacuation Device1x Future Fusion1x Gorz the Emissary of Darkness3x Morphtronic Map1x Morphtronic Slingen1x My Body as a Shield1x Mystical Space Typhoon1x Overload Fusion2x Prohibition2x Royal Decree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Just for an interesting idea...I don't know about if you should main this, side would be better, but... Do you have 1 Honest you can use? You run enough lights to possibly do something, I mean, you don't need to, but it's just an idea. Card Trooper is another idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I don't own one right now, but I could always pick one up at my next locals. Should I use one? This deck mains 10 LIGHT monsters (though 7 won't ever battle), so it's a possiblity... One that I normally dismiss, but it may work against current threats now that I think about it. My locals doesn't carry promos that are still in circulation except in tins or cards in structure decks that are still being sold except with said structure decks. Since my baby bro just added our only Trooper, I can't, but it's not really necessary. Is Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror even worth siding for Infernities? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 The problem that I see is that space is extraordinarily tight. It is no frivolous compliment when I say that everything has a use in here. Therefore, it's extremely difficult to neg things when there's a good reason for each and every card. On top of that, it looks like you can side into anything on your listed threats (Compulsory for Chimeratech, Decree/MST for Drain/Oppression) but Crow and GBs. Maybe run Corridors of Agony over the Prohibitions in the Side Deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Well, if not just for infernities, but all the other dark decks out there o.0 Donno if its worth it, but with all that swarming power, United We Stand is scary. Just sayin. I'm sure boarden could always appreciate extra direct hit power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I remember using Light-imprisioning Mirror against LS. The guy had amazing experience with this. So he ran Mobius. :/ It seems too slow, the mirrors. Maybe, if you could get your hands on Starlight Road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Actually, a card that's worth checking out is Hero's Rule 2. It seems like a side specifically for Grave threats (Infernities, DAD, Crow) and thus could cover some "holes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Hero's Rule 2 doesn't stop DAD, but it DOES handle the other stuff. Note to self: look for some as well as Corridor of Agony. Also, kiss wallet goodbye before looking for Starlight Road or Honest. Where would I fit them in? Bringerofcake mentioned where to add the Corridors, but as for the rest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Hero's Rule 2 doesn't stop DAD' date=' but it DOES handle the other stuff.[/quote']Right. Costs don't target. Forgot that. Where would I fit them in? Bringerofcake mentioned where to add the Corridors' date=' but as for the rest...[/quote']Hmmmm...How often does that MBaaS come out?Because I'm thinking...-1 MBaaS-1 MST+2 Hero's Rule 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Solidarity? It can take the place of Radion in OTKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Where would I fit them in? Bringerofcake mentioned where to add the Corridors' date=' but as for the rest...[/quote']Hmmmm...How often does that MBaaS come out?Because I'm thinking...-1 MBaaS-1 MST+2 Hero's Rule 2? MBaaS comes out to counter nukes and SaDDAM. Seeing that I have Map and Gorz sided for all but SaDDAM means that I can afford the room, but this means that I have some issues with SaDDAM, which is why it's good that it's so obscure. I'll do that as soon as I can find some. Solidarity? It can take the place of Radion in OTKs. This post of yours means one of a few things' date=' please clarify which: You didn't know that Radion was Thunder.You expect me to replace the Radions.You expect me to mess around with the build to be able to control my grave enough through Remoten, revival and such that Radion and Synchros cease to be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 That would be 1.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 OK. It happens to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Drain, Oppression: Dust TornadoChimertech: I honestly don't know =/. Maybe Ryko?GBs: Smashing Ground?DD Crow: Doomcaliber? Seems risky though. Maybe BfaDD? Thats what I got from your Issues to Fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 3 Accel is dead for me. This deck needs a lot and that clears things a bit. i would add IRS, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Drain' date=' Oppression: Dust TornadoChimertech: I honestly don't know =/. Maybe Ryko?GBs: Smashing Ground?DD Crow: Doomcaliber? Seems risky though. Maybe BfaDD? Thats what I got from your Issues to Fix.[/quote'] I dunno. GBs sorta kill me with destruction effects more than anything. 3 Accel is dead for me. This deck needs a lot and that clears things a bit. i would add IRS' date=' though[/quote'] Use Remoten more. It's not dead with Remoten adding ammo to your hand. Also, Radion makes too many Morphs invalid targets for IRS, and IRS is pointless without Radion out. From what I gathered from your PM, you weren't aware that IRS + Attack Mode Radion was an illegal move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I was aware, sort of... I just wasn't 100% sure on it. But you could put a Radion in defense and special summon 2 more.... It's an OTK if you have a Boomboxen or a Celfon and a Scopen out or something like that. EDIT: IRS is pointless without Radion OR Boarden out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I was aware' date=' sort of... I just wasn't 100% sure on it. But you could put a Radion in defense and special summon 2 more.... It's an OTK if you have a Boomboxen or a Celfon and a Scopen out or something like that. EDIT: IRS is pointless without Radion OR Boarden out.[/quote'] Without Radion, your offensive power is too weak to do anything regardless. Anyways, I may test one or two, but I have no room in here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 BUMP I tested a single copy of IRS, as running more than that poses way too many risks. While it looks excellent on paper, the requirement of a face-up opposing monster is annoying. However, Chair is right about it causing some funny OTKs, like Junk Box on Boomboxen + IRS, Normal Summon Radion. Especially funny when their monster is a Nomi/Semi-Nomi, or is Limited. I'm keeping one over an Accelerator. I'll move the third Accelerator to the side somehow, any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 BUMP I tested a single copy of IRS' date=' as running more than that poses way too many risks. While it looks excellent on paper, the requirement of a face-up opposing monster is annoying. However, Chair is right about it causing some funny OTKs, like Junk Box on Boomboxen + IRS, Normal Summon Radion. Especially funny when their monster is a Nomi/Semi-Nomi, or is Limited [b']or is Doomcaliber Knight[/b]. I'm keeping one over an Accelerator. I'll move the third Accelerator to the side somehow, any ideas?2 has been testing dead for me... I'm gonna neg one for a Dust Tornado or a Starlight or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 OK then, then it seems I was smart there. Anyways, do you see any space in the side in which I can fit the 3rd Accelerator? I'm thinking Slingen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 -1 TT-1 Mirror Force(Starlight Road) +1 Solemn (stops most of your threats)+1 Dust Tornado Or just neg 1 of the 2 cards and add Solemn. Off Topic: I edited the Morphtronic OTK part of the lolwiki Morphtronic Deck page. It was really misleading. @SIDE: MBaaS.... What's wrong with Slingen? Just curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 -1 TT-1 Mirror Force(Starlight Road) +1 Solemn (stops most of your threats)+1 Dust Tornado Or just neg 1 of the 2 cards and add Solemn. Off Topic: I edited the Morphtronic OTK part of the lolwiki Morphtronic Deck page. It was really misleading. @SIDE: MBaaS.... What's wrong with Slingen? Just curious... I don't have any Solemns. That's the only reason why I don't run it. In most cases where I would main Dust Tornado, I would remove it and replace it with MST. The Morphtronic Deck page is stupid. I'm more concerned about the Archetype page for it. I was thinking Slingen because I need to have a Morphtronic out to activate its effect. Typically, having expendable Morphs means that I've won already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Well then add a MST. Starlight Road would hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Well then add a MST. Starlight Road would hurt. I have 6 cards that can trigger Starlight Road: Black Rose DragonHeavy StormBottomless Trap HoleBottomless Trap HoleMirror ForceTorrential Tribute A few of these will rarely trigger starlight Road, leaving it at: Black Rose DragonHeavy StormMirror ForceTorrential Tribute I run one card specifically to stop Starlight Road, and I main a few other cards to handle Starlight Road regardless, along with a few sided things: Giant TrunadeMorphtronic AcceleratorMorphtronic AcceleratorBottomless Trap HoleBottomless Trap HoleStardust DragonStardust Dragon Mystical Space TyphoonRoyal DecreeRoyal DecreeCompulsory Evacuation DeviceCompulsory Evacuation DeviceProhibitionProhibitionMy Body as a Shield Starlight doesn't seem as big of a threat to me as you're making it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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