Schrodinger's Cat

[Yankee]

Oh' date=' Schrödinger, one of the most underrated Physicists of all time. I love this "paradox."

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As do I, Ice. It's a shame most of the people who posted here don't understand quantum theory. If they did, they wouldn't have posted such third rate responses.

 

Schrodinger is explaining that unless you can see the cat, you must assume that the cat is both alive and dead, but if you can see the cat, you can determine whether the cat is either alive or dead.

 

 

However, simple logic says nothing can be alive and dead at the same time.

Sad day?

[Felix Culpa]

Oh' date=' Schrödinger, one of the most underrated Physicists of all time. I love this "paradox."

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As do I, Ice. It's a shame most of the people who posted here don't understand quantum theory. If they did, they wouldn't have posted such third rate responses.

 

Schrodinger is explaining that unless you can see the cat, you must assume that the cat is both alive and dead, but if you can see the cat, you can determine whether the cat is either alive or dead.

 

However, simple logic says nothing can be alive and dead at the same time.

Sad day?

 

Unfortunately, to understand an theory in physics, you need to be able to grasp the fact the unknown is everything and nothing, until it becomes known.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Schrodinger's cat walked into a bar.

 

And it didn't.

[Eury]

what kinda person puts a cat in a box and randomly sets a poisonous gas timer?

 

Obviously physicists named Erwin Schrodinger. :/

[Felix Culpa]

You people do not comprehend the simple, so of course, the complex would be impossible to explain to you. -.-

 

It is not that he put a cat in the box to test this. He simply came up with the idea. It is a simple problem really. That which you cannot observe is unknown.

[-Berserker-]

I understand... But I want to know if steel cases had glass windows...

[Dark]

Without opening the box, you cannot know whether the cat is alive or dead, and therefore, until you open the chamber, the cat is considered both alive and dead at the same time.

 

I don't know about the last part, but this is true. If the poison is released at a random time, you are unsure of when the cat died. You could wait years, and assuming the cat does not die of lack of food, it could be alive because the poison did not activate. Likewise, you could wait a few seconds and the poison would activate, killing the cat.

 

If you waited an infinite amount of time...

[Felix Culpa]

Dark, you understand the physical, but not the mental.

 

Because the cat could be dead, and it could be alive, it is both. It is the same as the ability to create a new dimension with every choice you make, such as multiverse theory dictates. The cat, while in the box, exists in a state between two dimensions, in one where it is living, and in the other where it is dead.

[Black★Star]

Its dead...

if you put a cat, in a steel box, with no air source... its gonna die...

[Felix Culpa]

Its dead...

if you put a cat' date=' in a steel box, with no air source... its gonna die...

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You have no grasp that this is theory, not practice, do you?

[Twig]

Its dead...

if you put a cat' date=' in a steel box, with no air source... its gonna die...

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Good point, but cat still has three minutes or so...

 

The paradox is still there.

[Dark]

Because the cat could be dead, and it could be alive, it is both. It is the same as the ability to create a new dimension with every choice you make, such as multiverse theory dictates. The cat, while in the box, exists in a state between two dimensions, in one where it is living, and in the other where it is dead.

 

Gah, I need to stop using logic for this.

 

My logic is that at any given time, the cat will either be dead or alive. It doesn't matter that you don't know which is correct, but it still holds true that it will be dead OR alive, not and. If you were to put a glass window in the steel box, and see the cat, it would be in one universe at any given time. The living one, the poison opens, and then the dead one. How does taking away "sight" create a split in universes?

[Aesirson]

It was 75 years ago. I suppose the cat's dead by now.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

People didn't understand my Schrodinger's cat joke.

 

 

And people didn't understand my Schrodinger's cat joke.

[Raylen]

You don't' date=' thinking of the technology they had then.

Until it's proven dead, it's alive.

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You're arguing a lost cause. Take a different example, I could be in where I say I am, Anchorage, Alaska, or somewhere completely different, e.g. Honolulu, Hawaii, you have no way of knowing.

[tommers2008]

Cat would be dead, no oxygen, food, water cat is f***ed

[Godot]

Cat would be dead' date=' no oxygen, food, water cat is f***ed

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The Cat could survive for at least 5 minutes. So, pretend that this paradox only lasted for those 5 minutes. Did the poison go off? Or is the cat still alive?

[Felix Culpa]

*sigh* You people still don't grasp the concept. Let's just say the cat has a re-breather. Now, it has unlimited oxygen. Then, let's say it has a food supply and water. It would still be both alive AND dead, unless you could see it.

[Godot]

*sigh* You people still don't grasp the concept. Let's just say the cat has a re-breather. Now' date=' it has unlimited oxygen. Then, let's say it has a food supply and water. It would still be both alive AND dead, unless you could see it.

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Was that directed to me? Because I fully understand it.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

I've known this for awhile, and it's bad logic to follow. It isn't both of the two, it COULD BE both of the two.

[Dark]

*sigh* You people still don't grasp the concept. Let's just say the cat has a re-breather. Now' date=' it has unlimited oxygen. Then, let's say it has a food supply and water. It would still be both alive AND dead, unless you could see it.

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You still haven't answered my question. If there was a glass window, you can plainly see whether it is dead or alive. But once you take away "sight", it randomly becomes both? It's the same scenario for the cat, only you cannot see what's happening. Atlas summed it up well with his previous post.

[Smear]

Get a see-through box. :D

[Amethyst Phoenix]

I think the douchebag that did this to cats should be skinned alive and set on fire.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

I think the douchebag that did this to cats should be skinned alive and set on fire.

 

But until we find the man's corpse he is BOTH skinned alive and set on fire and a deranged cat murderer that took his secret to the grave. :S

[Godot]

I think the douchebag that did this to cats should be skinned alive and set on fire.

 

He didn't do it, I believe.

 

I think it was just a theory.