Ghoulish Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 could be' date=' if u say it liek that, well ur opponent might not have a spell or trap card on the feild?would it be useful then? then you can have even Machine King Barbaros instant 3500 as well?bang... [b']Not worth it, right?[/b] That might be the smartest thing I've ever heard you say. ohhh i see first u get up at corezero in another thread for not giving any feedback and now u make a ocmment like that. hmmm hymn if u werent tapped int he head u may know that it was sarcasmmmmm. also... "Okay but at the end of the day if this is your deck's answer to a high attack monster then you deserve to lose anyway."...wow...enuff said.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raylen Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I love how well this works with Magic Cylinder to create a perfect self kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I don't want to waste my Fiends on this card. There's too many drawbacks. Way too many. This card isn't useful in the least. Lmao the card isn't bad its jus that like it dosent rlly matter if you play it bc it cant rlly do anything skill drain then it does do summfin. Are you both trolls? Raviel Turbo' date=' and trade the Necrofear for Skill Drain. Evil Hero Inferno Prodigy + Phantom Skyblaster, throw in some Fires of Doomsday for extra Measure. And Skill Drain, (again traded for Necrofear). This card is crazy easy to bring out and swing for 9000. You could even toss this in a Field Control Deck (where the monsters are forced to attack it), and deal out near maximum damage without using Skill Drain; (again using a varient of the Raviel Turbo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I don't want to waste my Fiends on this card. There's too many drawbacks. Way too many. This card isn't useful in the least. Lmao the card isn't bad its jus that like it dosent rlly matter if you play it bc it cant rlly do anything skill drain then it does do summfin. Are you both trolls? are u a gimp? was there any need for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 "Looks OP'ed" = "has 9000 ATK" "but read effect" = "loaded with god-awful drawbacks" So, the only way to make it semi-playable is with Skill Drain to get rid of all those annoying last effects. Oh wait, Normal Summon by tributing 4 Fiends and RFPing 2 from the Grave. 4 fiends? On my field? Double Fires of Doomsday? Maybe. I remember doing something like this. Making absurdly high ATK monsters and giving them drawbacks that didn't let Skill Drain make them become OP. This isn't anything close to OP. It's so burdened with drawbacks that it isn't worth bringing out at all. 3/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Raviel Turbo' date=' and trade the Necrofear for Skill Drain. Evil Hero Inferno Prodigy + Phantom Skyblaster, throw in some Fires of Doomsday for extra Measure. And Skill Drain, (again traded for Necrofear). This card is crazy easy to bring out and swing for 9000. You could even toss this in a Field Control Deck (where the monsters are forced to attack it), and deal out near maximum damage without using Skill Drain; (again using a varient of the Raviel Turbo). Are you willing to go through that combo to bring out a weak card with too many drawbacks? Monster Destruction S/Ts are still threats, and this card can't even inflict Battle Damage. are u a gimp? was there any need for that. What is a gimp? And yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raylen Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Icy this doesn't even deal Battle Damage. Not to mention the huge cost, which is only reduced by some specific cards, it's only serves as a beatstick and is easily stopped by most burn / anti metas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Raviel Turbo' date=' and trade the Necrofear for Skill Drain. Evil Hero Inferno Prodigy + Phantom Skyblaster, throw in some Fires of Doomsday for extra Measure. And Skill Drain, (again traded for Necrofear). This card is crazy easy to bring out and swing for 9000. You could even toss this in a Field Control Deck (where the monsters are forced to attack it), and deal out near maximum damage without using Skill Drain; (again using a varient of the Raviel Turbo). Are you willing to go through that combo to bring out a weak card with too many drawbacks? Monster Destruction S/Ts are still threats, and this card can't even inflict Battle Damage. Its actually really consistent in the deck o_O. And yeah, I understand it suffers from the whole Elecweakness (awesome cards just need way too much protection). The card can still inflict Battle Damage, when Skill Drain is active. This card does not have a part where it says that it absolutely cannot, it just words it as part of the effect. But yes, I understand that it's not an orthodox card; but it's far from Underpowered =/... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LourDeath Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 5000's the highest that makes that OP'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Raviel Turbo' date=' and trade the Necrofear for Skill Drain. Evil Hero Inferno Prodigy + Phantom Skyblaster, throw in some Fires of Doomsday for extra Measure. And Skill Drain, (again traded for Necrofear). This card is crazy easy to bring out and swing for 9000. You could even toss this in a Field Control Deck (where the monsters are forced to attack it), and deal out near maximum damage without using Skill Drain; (again using a varient of the Raviel Turbo). Are you willing to go through that combo to bring out a weak card with too many drawbacks? Monster Destruction S/Ts are still threats, and this card can't even inflict Battle Damage. are u a gimp? was there any need for that. What is a gimp? And yes. basically someone out of place and wierd' date=' so yea u basically... ok there was a need for that? no worries, =)[hr']Raviel Turbo' date=' and trade the Necrofear for Skill Drain. Evil Hero Inferno Prodigy + Phantom Skyblaster, throw in some Fires of Doomsday for extra Measure. And Skill Drain, (again traded for Necrofear). This card is crazy easy to bring out and swing for 9000. You could even toss this in a Field Control Deck (where the monsters are forced to attack it), and deal out near maximum damage without using Skill Drain; (again using a varient of the Raviel Turbo). Are you willing to go through that combo to bring out a weak card with too many drawbacks? Monster Destruction S/Ts are still threats, and this card can't even inflict Battle Damage. Its actually really consistent in the deck o_O. And yeah, I understand it suffers from the whole Elecweakness (awesome cards just need way too much protection). The card can still inflict Battle Damage, when Skill Drain is active. This card does not have a part where it says that it absolutely cannot, it just words it as part of the effect. But yes, I understand that it's not an orthodox card; but it's far from Underpowered =/... thats exactly what i rekon, partnered with specific cards it can be a strong asset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Its actually really consistent in the deck o_O. And yeah' date=' I understand it suffers from the whole Elecweakness (awesome cards just need way too much protection). The card can still inflict Battle Damage, when Skill Drain is active. This card does not have a part where it says that it absolutely cannot, it just words it as part of the effect. But yes, I understand that it's not an orthodox card; but it's far from Underpowered =/...[/quote'] Ahhh, I guess I'll have my views and you'll have yours. <3 5000's the highest that makes that OP'd Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 skill drain says hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 skill drain says hi thankyou so much (seriously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Overload Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 OK how about 3 fiends and none from Grave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark-Azkrin666 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 one last thing i'd to say about this card. Change it to were it looses ATK points for Spell and Traps on your opponents side of the field(Note this is not the correct OCG). This way it can at least do something...with out the use of Skill Drain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Gah, this is so hard. If you take out even a few drawbacks it becomes a consistent OTKer, but as it is it's completely useless even in Skill Drain, although the Raviel Turbo deck sounds like it might work. The only challenge this monster seems to address is an Obelisk summoned with Hardened Armed as Tribute. "Okay but at the end of the day if this is your deck's answer to a high attack monster then you deserve to lose anyway."...wow...enuff said.. Think about this: 1-2 Bottomless Trap Hole, 1 Torrential Tribute, 1 Solemn Judgment, 1 Mirror Force, 0-3 Dimensional Prison, 1-3 Smashing Ground would be the general line-up of S/T replies to high ATK. 99% of decks also have access to the field-nuker Black Rose Dragon. Lightsworns sweep the field clear with Judgment Dragon or Celestia. Quickdraw Plants are guarded with an infinite wall of Fluff Tokens coupled with Drill Warrior. Blackwings tap into Armor Master or Dark Armed Dragon. Further, a Skill Drain deck is rarely going to have the field presence - or the Fiends - to summon this (again, this Raviel Turbo sounds like it might be different) in the first place. Do you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Overload Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 It cant be Spell and Trap cards (X on Skill Drain) And this ins't meant to be Godly status, It should be able to be killed by a simple Man-eater bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ughman44 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 still with the effect its at 4000!ATK for gods sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahugani Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 based on what i read i say scrap the card and rethink it gaia. there are just too many variables to consider in terms of getting the creature out on the field with out giving up much and how to deal with its overwhelming atk power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark assassin and Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 not good but okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Overload Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Well, there are cards out there that ARE 4000/4000 incase you haven't noticed with better effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xzMasteRzx Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Pretty nice but still is alittle strong. Score: 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuerta6 Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 i see the problem, its the fact that on the card it says it inflicts no battle damage while on the lore it says nothing on battle damage. the card is extremely OP if it inflicts battle damage, its UP if it doesnt. big monsters like these would never hit the field unless you know you will get something out of it like battle damage. sure people play lots of removal cards and destruction cards, but that doesnt change the fact that a well built deck that has lots of fiend tribute fodder can smash you in one turn (asuming it inflicts battle damage). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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