Iron Chain Dragon /Assault Mode

[karldark]

this has probably been done before but let's see how my version goes

Edit: some OCG and need to make it level 8

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except with "Assault Mode Activate". You can remove from play "Iron Chain" monsters from your Graveyard to have this card gain 200 ATK for each card removed, When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, remove the top 5 cards of your opponent's Deck from play. When this card on the field is destroyed, you can Special Summon 1 "Iron Chain Dragon" from your Graveyard.

[Zextra]

200 ATK seems a bit low. Also, following the trend of assault modes, the ATK and DEF should be 3000 and 1800 respectively, as assault modes add on 500 points each to the original's ATK and DEF. Also, the level should be 8 as Iron Chain Dragon is Level 6, and Assault Mode Levels should be 2 levels higher than the original. The pic could be improved on, Render it, then stick it on another background. Overall, not a bad effect: kind of bland, but not a big deal. Fix these things and this would get an 8.5/10. Currently, I can only give you a 7/10...

[karldark]

200 ATK seems a bit low.

it's permanent unlike the original synchro monster.

Also' date=' following the trend of assault modes, the ATK and DEF should be 3000 and 1800 respectively, as assault modes add on 500 points each to the original's ATK and DEF. [/quote'] i lowered it slightly because of the ability to pump.

Also' date=' the level should be 8 as Iron Chain Dragon is Level 6, and Assault Mode Levels should be 2 levels higher than the original.[/quote'] sound reasonable

The pic could be improved on' date=' Render it, then stick it on another background. [/quote'] don't care so much about that.

Overall' date=' not a bad effect: kind of bland, but not a big deal. Fix these things and this would get an 8.5/10. Currently, I can only give you a 7/10...

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don't need your ratings as they mean nothing but thanks for the other comments

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Picture: No... Just no.

I won't give this a rating as an Assault Mode, seeing as it doesn't follow the rules. And unless this is gonna be played by Kaiba...

[karldark]

Picture: No... Just no.

I won't give this a rating as an Assault Mode' date=' seeing as it doesn't follow the rules. And unless this is gonna be played by Kaiba...

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useless comments aren't wanted

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Unrealistic cards aren't wanted.

 

It's decent, but still should just be a non-Synchro monster if you're going to change those things.

[Yang Xiao-Long]

The pic is terrible, but you already know that and you don't care.

OCG:

"remove the top 5 cards of your opponent's Deck from play.

What zmuzik said.

OPed; can mill through your opponent's Deck worse than Lightsworns.

 

I'd rate this, but you wouldn't care.

[karldark]

The pic is terrible' date=' but you already know that and you don't care.[/quote'] the pic is meant to be sarcastic and no i think card art can be wonderful but i'm a mechanics junky since it's the game that matters and not the pretty art on the cards.

OCG:

"remove the top 5 cards of your opponent's Deck from play.

thank you

OPed; can mill through your opponent's Deck worse than Lightsworns.

that'd be the point of iron chain monsters

[byak]

Should have ridiculous milling effect imo.

[karldark]

Should have ridiculous milling effect imo.

 

that's what i was thinking... i was gonna also give him piercing but i thought that'd be way too much text for one card and incredibly obnoxious

[Ｎｏ.３９ 希望皇ホープ]

If you are trying to make an Assault mode, you should seriously consider following the rules for Assault modes. Assault modes should be more powered compared to original, this card is just overpowered.

 

Seeing as how you don't care about the pic, don't want numerical ratings, and I haven't slept in 17 hours that's all I've got to say

[karldark]

If you are trying to make an Assault mode' date=' you should seriously consider following the rules for Assault modes. Assault modes should be more powered compared to original, this card is just overpowered.[/quote'] there are rules for specific card creation? Sorry i didn't know this. Could you maybe educate me a little?

Seeing as how you don't care about the pic' date=' don't want numerical ratings, and I haven't slept in 17 hours that's all I've got to say

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next time instead of typing that bit out don't waste your time and don't type it at all. since the "important" part of your post was already done... or at the very least be more snarky so i can laugh more.

[Ｎｏ.３９ 希望皇ホープ]

There aren't rules for creating assault modes bu there are precedents, that have yet to be broken. Unbroken precedents become de-facto rules after awhile.

 

assault modes add on 500 points each to the original's ATK and DEF...

Assault Mode Levels should be 2 levels higher than the original

which you didn't do

 

and its effect should include

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except with "Assault Mode Activate"... When this card on the field is destroyed' date=' you can Special Summon 1 "Iron Chain Dragon" from your Graveyard.

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which you did do correctly

 

and the whole thing about having a more powerful effect than the original, but less extreme than a Majestic or advanced Synchro would have, which you also did do correctly

[Toot]

the name made me think this card would be awesome

the pic sux, sry

4/10

[karldark]

There aren't rules for creating assault modes bu there are precedents' date=' that have yet to be broken. Unbroken precedents become de-facto rules after awhile.[/quote'] you'd allow such precedents to restrict your creativity that's pretty sad. Sorry but i will rebuke your de-facto rules in favor good design and/or creativity any day.

assault modes add on 500 points each to the original's ATK and DEF...

Assault Mode Levels should be 2 levels higher than the original

which you didn't do

level clearly doesn't matter in this case. If i need to explain that further i will but i feel it's pretty obvious. In favor of balance i only increased the original atk 300 points as he has a permanent force pump.

and its effect should include

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except with "Assault Mode Activate"... When this card on the field is destroyed' date=' you can Special Summon 1 "Iron Chain Dragon" from your Graveyard.

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which you did do correctly

 

and the whole thing about having a more powerful effect than the original, but less extreme than a Majestic or advanced Synchro would have, which you also did do correctly

you didn't have to tell me this i already knew...

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the name made me think this card would be awesome

the pic sux' date=' sry

4/10

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please refer to this: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-209143-post-4273997.html#pid4273997

[karldark]

well if u didnt expect useless comments maybe u shouldn't hv posted this

or maybe i shouldn't expect intelligence and knowledgeable designers from the majority of this board

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Or maybe you shouldn't be so stubborn and take what suggestions have been given to you, such as either making this follow Assault Mode rules or making it an basic effect monster that requires Tributing ICD. It doesn't matter how many big words I use to tell you the picture sucks. I could just go through the Oxford English Dictionary telling you how this doesn't follow the rules for the card type you are making. How intelligent the post looks doesn't matter if what its saying is still true and relevant to the card. So...

[Toot]

lol

[karldark]

Or maybe you shouldn't be so stubborn and take what suggestions have been given to you' date=' such as either making this follow Assault Mode rules or making it an basic effect monster that requires Tributing ICD. It doesn't matter how many big words I use to tell you the picture sucks. I could just go through the Oxford English Dictionary telling you how this doesn't follow the rules for the card type you are making. How intelligent the post looks doesn't matter if what its saying is still true and relevant to the card. So...

[/quote'] i did take the suggestions look at the first post. I just haven't changed the card yet as i've been dealing with considerably more important things. The only "rule" i'm "breaking" is the one you guys have made up and i've explained the reasoning behind that. If you can't except that card art doesn't matter when it comes to realistic cards or that some people like to discuss their card and don't just "take your word for it" maybe you shouldn't post.

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If you can't except that card art doesn't matter when it comes to realistic cards or that some people like to discuss their card and don't just "take your word for it" maybe you shouldn't post.

 

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I understand that people like to discuss their card, but when your card still doesn't truly apply to the others of its type in a realistic manner, there's no point in discussing it as a realistic card. That, and card art still matters, though it might not be as important as the actual playability of the card itself. The image still sucks. It doesn't matter how much you want to discuss your half-assed card if it's still just that. If you want to have a good discussion, make a good card. As far as me not posting, I can assure you that won't happen for a while, so while you go figure out who the hell you're trying to impress with this card, I'll be viewing other topics...

 

...Have a great day, though.

[karldark]

I understand that people like to discuss their card' date=' but when your card still doesn't truly apply to the others of its type in a realistic manner, there's no point in discussing it as a realistic card. [/quote'] the problem here is i don't think it isn't realistic. I plan to change it to level 8 and giving it 3000 atk isn't such a big deal either.

That' date=' and card art still matters, though it might not be as important as the actual playability of the card itself. The image still sucks.[/quote'] it is in fact so unimportant i'd rather not discuss it at all. The image isn't meant seriously. It's meant for a laugh. I can't draw to save my life. All i gave is a google image search if i can find a reasonable pic i'll post itif not i look for something to give people a laugh. What i can help is the lack of a sense of humor.

It doesn't matter how much you want to discuss your half-assed card if it's still just that. If you want to have a good discussion' date=' make a good card. As far as me not posting, I can assure you that won't happen for a while, so while you go figure out who the hell you're trying to impress with this card, I'll be viewing other topics...

 

...Have a great day, though.

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so what makes it a half-assed card is that i didn't follow what you think is are convention for designing an assault mode. I'll be sure to remember that your opinion is the only one that matters when designing my cards from now on.

[Yang Xiao-Long]

I understand that people like to discuss their card' date=' but when your card still doesn't truly apply to the others of its type in a realistic manner, there's no point in discussing it as a realistic card. [/quote'] the problem here is i don't think it isn't realistic. I plan to change it to level 8 and giving it 3000 atk isn't such a big deal either.

That' date=' and card art still matters, though it might not be as important as the actual playability of the card itself. The image still sucks.[/quote'] it is in fact so unimportant i'd rather not discuss it at all. The image isn't meant seriously. It's meant for a laugh. I can't draw to save my life. All i gave is a google image search if i can find a reasonable pic i'll post itif not i look for something to give people a laugh. What i can help is the lack of a sense of humor.

It doesn't matter how much you want to discuss your half-assed card if it's still just that. If you want to have a good discussion' date=' make a good card. As far as me not posting, I can assure you that won't happen for a while, so while you go figure out who the hell you're trying to impress with this card, I'll be viewing other topics...

 

...Have a great day, though.

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so what makes it a half-assed card is that i didn't follow what you think is are convention for designing an assault mode. I'll be sure to remember that your opinion is the only one that matters when designing my cards from now on.

 

If you can't draw to save your life, go to Showcase and look at the image archives. Realistic Cards is a Forum for just that, realistic cards. The picture on the card lets others know you actually TRIED on the card. Besides, you can always ask for help finding an image.

If you're gonna make an Assault Mode monster, follow the guidelines. They are strict guidelines. 2 Levels higher with 500 higher ATK and DEF, along with an improved effect. These are the Assault Mode standards. If you can't follow them, don't bother making Assault Modes.

We'll continue placing rates on cards no matter if you care about them or not. They let you know if you gave an effort.

You may be a mechanics junky, but at least give a thought to card images and card standards. Cards with difficult effects have amazing images too, and that is usually what impresses most mechanics junkies.

[karldark]

If you can't draw to save your life' date=' go to Showcase and look at the image archives. Realistic Cards is a Forum for just that, realistic cards. The picture on the card lets others know you actually TRIED on the card. Besides, you can always ask for help finding an image. [/quote'] i find that notion ridiculous. I try on every card otherwise i would post them here.

If you're gonna make an Assault Mode monster' date=' follow the guidelines. They are strict guidelines. 2 Levels higher with 500 higher ATK and DEF, along with an improved effect. These are the Assault Mode standards. If you can't follow them, don't bother making Assault Modes.[/quote'] the level doesn't matter but it's just as easy to adhere to that convention so i'm not gonna fight you on that. Stat wise i think matters more but at this level and extra 200 isn't that big a deal either.

We'll continue placing rates on cards no matter if you care about them or not. They let you know if you gave an effort.

that's even more ridiculous. No one thinks about ratings the same way. That's what you think they signify. The next person might rate solely based on how much he likes the card... which means he might hate mill decks and everything that looks like them. Maybe someone rates based on how likely it is that your card would be printed. Ratings are arbitrary and they have no meaning because there is no standards by which to judge them. They're only purpose is to make people feel better about themselves. I don't need that as my ego is healthy enough to support it's own weight.

You may be a mechanics junky' date=' but at least give a thought to card images and card standards. Cards with difficult effects have amazing images too, and that is usually what impresses most mechanics junkies.

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standards can i deal with if they are important to the card design. Clearly i thought they were important as i added the effect lines that rest of them have. You're fooling yourself if you think mechanics junkies are more impressed with pretty art then the mechanics.