Archaic Wrath - Brute Force Spellcaster's

[Superskull85]

My goal for this Spellcaster deck was to create a brute force offensive deck themed around Spellcasters. My focus is attacking my opponent hard, and countering some of their strategies as I do this. I do use spell counters a bit to give me an edge (Skilled Dark Magician, Breaker the Magical Warrior, Defender, The Magical Warrior, etc.), but I do not depend on sell counters to do my bidding.

 

There will be a lot of obvious weaknesses to this deck, but any suggestions for either my side deck or for my deck in general would be appreciated. I have tried to build the deck according to the advanced format of the official ban list (as of March 1, 2010), and I do intend to use this deck in tournaments.

 

My deck (19 monsters, 13 spells, 8 traps and 15 side deck):

 

Monsters - 19:

 

1x Sorcerer of Dark Magic

1x Endymion, The Master Magician

1x Dark Magician

1x Chaos Command Magician

1x Chaos Sorcerer

2x Skilled Dark Magician

2x Kycoo, The Ghost Destroyer

3x Breaker, The Magical Warrior

1x Royal Magical Library

1x Defender, The Magical Knight

2x Old Vindictive Magician

2x Apprentice Magician

1x Frequency Magician

 

Spells - 13:

 

3x Magical Dimension

1x United We Stand

1x Lightning Vortex

1x Heavy Storm

1x Mystical Space Typhoon

2x Nobleman of the Crossout

1x Brain Control

1x Swords of Revealing Light

2x Pot of Avarice

 

Traps - 8:

 

1x Call of the Haunted

1x Mirror Force

1x Magic Cylinder

1x Torrential Tribute

2x Trap Hole

2x Dust Tornado

 

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Side Deck:

 

Monsters - 4:

 

1x Dark Magician

1x Kycoo, The Ghost Destroyer

1x Sangan

1x Night Assailant

 

Traps - 3:

 

1x Trap Jammer

1x Raigeki Break

1x A Hero Emerges

 

Spells - 8:

 

1x Mage Power

1x Rush Recklessly

1x Double Summon

1x Mystic Box

1x Cold Wave

1x Diffusion Wave-Motion

1x Double Attack

1x Dark World Lightning

 

For the most part I think this deck is pretty good, and nearly complete. I would still like to get two copies of Magician's Circle and add them to the deck. This would allow me to summon more monsters when I start attacking. I would also like to get another Defender, The Magical Knight to replace my Royal Library.

 

Other than that the deck plays well for my standards, and I think it is pretty good deck to use. If there is anything minor you think I should tweak let me know. I don't really want to make a dramatic change unless I need to.

 

Tell me what you think. :)

[Superskull85]

This deck went 3-0 today in my local tournament. Countered a herald deck and a demolished a plant deck.

[PokemonCardGuy]

How do you win?!?

 

SoDM sucks, DM is horrible without a deck dedicated to him, RML is meh, United we Stand is randoms, NoC is side-deck only, and trap holes should be replaced with Bottomless. Did I miss anything?

[Superskull85]

How do you win?!?

 

SoDM sucks, DM is horrible without a deck dedicated to him, RML is meh, United we Stand is randoms, NoC is side-deck only, and trap holes should be replaced with Bottomless. Did I miss anything?

 

Thanks for the constructive post... :/ First of all Sorcerer of Dark Magic is not that bad, especially when he is pretty easy to summon in this deck. Dark Magician, although maybe not the best Spellcaster to choose, is easier to summon in this deck due to the Skilled Dark Magician's available. United We Stand can be a perfect combination if you intend to use Magician's Circle during the battle phase, instant 1600 if the summon goes through. And the extra 800 minimum attack helps gets through walls like Herald of Perfection.

 

Why would I side deck Nobleman of the Crossout? It will get rid of any defensive wall that was set and allow me to plow through my opponents life points. I would never side deck this card unless I needed to.

 

The only reason I have Royal Magical Library is because I don't have another Defender to replace it with (like I mention in my first post), and I didn't use a bottomless because I don't have enough right now to spread across my various decks, and because it can also get rid of weaker (possibly more threatening) monsters. The difference between 1000 and 1500 can be crucial depending on the deck you face.

 

I won those duels because I did not make amateur mistakes while I dueled. Noblemen was very useful in my duels, Dark Magician saved my but thanks to Skilled, United We Stand allowed me to get past Herald of Perfection a lot easier and, although I never used him in that duel, Sorcerer of Dark Magic would of helped a lot against the Herald deck I faced.

 

I appreciate any suggestions to make the deck better, but I do not like straight up dissing of my decks. If you have any suggestions for my deck, feel free to post them, but please do it using reasoning next time.

[WithTheWind]

Did I just see Rush Recklessly in the side deck?

 

And Magic Cylinder is horrendous.

[Superskull85]

Did I just see Rush Recklessly in the side deck?

 

And Magic Cylinder is horrendous.

 

Is anyone on this forum able to make a constructive post?... :/ Rush Recklessly was added for its instant attack boost without hogging a space on the field, which can be useful in certain situations such as when you field is full of trap cards that are needed to counter your opponent's moves. It can easily be swapped out for something else.

 

Also how is Magic Cylinder "horrendous?" Not only does it negate an attack, but at same time it deals damage to your opponents life points. I fail to see how something like that is horrible. Do you mind enlightening me?

[Legend Zero]

Constructive Post:

 

You need a theme, spellcasters is not a theme. There are various ways to use spellcasters; Spell counters, DM, Arcanite/Assault, Village. But your deck is i don't even. Sorcerer of Dark Magic IS a bad card, how can dropping 2 high level monsters a good thing? Magic Cylinder IS a bad card, whats the point of stopping an attack when the same thing has a chance of happening next turn. D-Prison does it better. Dark Magician is BAD outside its own deck and even then is just a fun deck, not competitive. Your stragety seems to be ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK! Which is wrong, overpowering isn't everything. Do not fret I myself was/maybe still is like you, but this forum REALLY knows what they are talking about and TRY to help. If you argue or fight back then it shows you have no desire to better yourself (cause that is what we do, learn from each other).

 

Please read this, it is very helpful.

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/182674-basic-deckbuilding-faq/

 

 

Off-Topic: If you won at your locals they must be very bad players, even a well built Spellcaster deck isn't a top teir.

[Superskull85]

Constructive Post:

 

You need a theme, spellcasters is not a theme. There are various ways to use spellcasters; Spell counters, DM, Arcanite/Assault, Village. But your deck is i don't even. Sorcerer of Dark Magic IS a bad card, how can dropping 2 high level monsters a good thing? Magic Cylinder IS a bad card, whats the point of stopping an attack when the same thing has a chance of happening next turn. D-Prison does it better. Dark Magician is BAD outside its own deck and even then is just a fun deck, not competitive. Your stragety seems to be ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK! Which is wrong, overpowering isn't everything. Do not fret I myself was/maybe still is like you, but this forum REALLY knows what they are talking about and TRY to help. If you argue or fight back then it shows you have no desire to better yourself (cause that is what we do, learn from each other).

 

Please read this, it is very helpful.

http://forum.yugiohc...ckbuilding-faq/

 

 

Off-Topic: If you won at your locals they must be very bad players, even a well built Spellcaster deck isn't a top teir.

 

Saying that my cards are bad and that I should not use them without suggesting anything to replace them is not going to help me in the slightest. I argued back to show how they can be good cards. Neither post told me what I could add to replace those cards all they said that they were "bad." There is a different between helping and dissing. If you want to suggest to take out a certain card you should also suggest a card to replace it with.

 

Just because a deck doesn't have a "theme" doesn't mean it is not "good." It all depends what you are up against. At my locals I needed brute force so I choose to use this deck. I am capable of creating "themed" decks as opposed to brute force.

 

I appreciate any suggestions people want to make, but simply saying that I shouldn't use a card without a reason, or without a replacement is not very helpful at all.

 

Now I have debated whether I should scrap Sorcerer but if I summon him successfully, he does help a lot. I have no problem taking him out if I really need to. Dark Magician may be a bad choice for a Spellcaster, but it is easier to summon using Skilled. I could replace him with a more useful card, and I have been considering it.

 

Dimensional Prison is a good card, but I find that Magic Cylinder is useful for this deck as a) it negates the attack and inflicts damage, and B) because I can usually overpower or destroy the monster on the next turn anyways. Thank you for the suggestion for replacing it with Dimensional Prison though; it would help.

 

I don't want to scrap this deck, but any changes to the deck as it is helpful. I am able to create other decks (I already posted two others). I want to keep this deck in case I do need/want to use it.

[PokemonCardGuy]

Take 3 Spellcaster' Commands and take the good stuff to make a decent bugdet deck. Or use legend zero's ideas. Then it will be better then this.

[Harima_Kenji]

i would personally add as many magical citidal endymions to that deck, in addition insert stardust, tempest magician, arcanite magician and as well include arcanite apprentice and assault mode activae with the 2 assault formes of the synchros. i had a deck that looked similar to that and i was amazing.... there are a few cards that arent needed in that deck such as a second pot of avarice (its just not needed)

 

for traps i suggest adding 1 sakaretsu armor and negate attack at least, not enough trap defense in that deck

[Legend Zero]

Saying that my cards are bad and that I should not use them without suggesting anything to replace them is not going to help me in the slightest. I argued back to show how they can be good cards. Neither post told me what I could add to replace those cards all they said that they were "bad." There is a different between helping and dissing. If you want to suggest to take out a certain card you should also suggest a card to replace it with. Nobody will tell you what to replace cards with cause they don't know you're THEME!

 

Just because a deck doesn't have a "theme" doesn't mean it is not "good." Yes it does.

 

I appreciate any suggestions people want to make, but simply saying that I shouldn't use a card without a reason, or without a replacement is not very helpful at all. The reason is its a bad card, seriously use the link I posted.

Honestly, read this please.

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/182674-basic-deckbuilding-faq/

 

If you do you'll understand the reasons behind why people call some of your card choices bad, along with understanding why a THEME is important.

[Dr. Cakey]

'Scuse me, I'm going to test your deck against my Spell Counter Spellcasters in WC10. To make it fair, I'll use your deck, and the CPU will use my deck. I'll try two matches. Be back soon!

 

EDIT/NOTE: I replaced your Library with a second Defender, since that's what you wanted. I also two Magical Dimensions with Magician Circle, partially because you wanted the Circles, partially because Dimension isn't a very good card, but mostly because I only have 1 Magical Dimension in WC10.

 

EDIT:

Archaic Wrath vs. Grasping Power

Game 1

Winner: Archaic Wrath

 

Game 2

Winner: Archaic Wrath

 

I was surprised, so I reversed roles.

 

Grasping Power vs. Archaic Wrath

Game1

Winner: Archaic Wrath

 

Game 2

Winner: Archaic Wrath

 

Now I was annoyed, so I tried again. I mean, really, how could a deck as awful as this lose to my Spellcasters? I mean, sure, I don't really know what I'm doing with 'Casters, either, but really.

 

Grasping Power vs. Archaic Wrath

Game 1

Winner: Grasping Power

 

Game 2

Winner: Grasping Power

 

Bonus Game 3: Grasping Power

 

Final Score:

Archaic Wrath: 4

Grasping Power: 3

 

I really don't know what to conclude. It's a bad deck, but it's doing so incredibly well. Why? Why!? I mean, I was expecting the CPU to 2-0 me in our first duel, and at the very least 2-0 the CPU in the second. The WC10 CPU is so awful, I've crushed Glads with my deck. So how did things turn out so badly for me?

[Superskull85]

@Legend Zero:

 

I've already read that thread, and I know how to create a themed deck if I wanted to. This deck may not have a "theme" (only attacking CAN be effective in specific situation, such as what I needed at my locals), but it works for what I need. If you don't want to make any suggestions than please don't post in this thread.

 

@PokemonCardGuy:

 

I already have other decks based around those cards that I have not posted. Thanks anyways.

 

@Harimo_Kenji:

 

Thank you for suggesting something useful.

 

If you don't want to make a useful suggestion like Harimo did, or suggest cards that can be replaced with other cards than please do not post in this thread. Thank you.

[Harima_Kenji]

oh yah and possibly the explosive magician can be added (dont really know his effect, u should look it up)

 

in addition all those saying this deck isnt to good or sucks, i definitally dont agree, its maybe not the #1 awesome deck of course, but it doesnt suck either (Dr. Cakey tested that) evenstill this deck has great potential, id actually like to continue seeing how this deck progresses in the future

[Dr. Cakey]

Alright, this was bugging me, so I decided to put the deck through my standard WC10 test gauntlet: Koa'ki Meiru Valafar, Flamvell Fiend, Great Shogun Shien, Cosmic Fortress Gol'gar. Here are the results (I am using Archaic Wrath, if you didn't realize):

 

Duel 1: Archaic Wrath vs. Discarded Lives

Winner: Discarded Lives

Turn Count: 20

Conclusion: Unlucky draw

 

Duel 2: Archaic Wrath vs. Untouchable Flamvell

Winner: Archaic Wrath

Turn Count: 14

Conclusion: Decks are equally bad, CPU fail decides game

 

Duel 3: Archaic Wrath vs. Court of the Shogun

Winner: Archaic Wrath

Turn Count: 11

Conclusion: Unlucky draw on Shien's part. No Grandmaster

 

Duel 4: Archaic Wrath vs. Impregnable Fortress

Winner: Archaic Wrath

Turn Count: 13

Conclusion: Awful draw by Gol'gar

 

I was furious at this point, so I vindictively set this up in a duel against Judgment Dragon

 

Duel 5: Archaic Wrath vs. Righteous Justice

Winner: Righteous Justice

Turn Count: 8

Conclusion: Hell, bad draws by Judgment Dragon in this duel, too

 

So I've come to my conclusion at last. This deck is not good. However, it manipulates your opponent's luck so that it does unspeakably well, even when it finally loses. Obviously, you use some sort of black magic, Mr. Superskull. How horrifying.

[Tronta]

i hate when boonie decks win.

[PokemonCardGuy]

i hate when boonie decks win.

Agreed.

[Arcane Kuriboh]

This one sounds good exemplar and tuners might help.

[Superskull85]

This one sounds good exemplar and tuners might help.

 

Thanks, but keep in mind that the deck doesn't have a theme or a unique win condition. I personally like using the deck and I win a lot with it against my local duelists, but it would all depend on your local duelists.