The Dark Knight Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 I need help on improving this deck without turning it into a generic "pro" deck. I really want to get rid of some monsters but I need help with which ones to get rid of. Thanks. Monsters (x21)x1 Luster Dragonx1 Guard of Flamvellx1 Kaiser Gliderx1 Dark Horusx1 Hardened Armed Dragonx1 Tyrant Dragonx1 White Horned Dragonx2 Masked Dragonx2 Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragonx1 Decoy Dragonx1 Darkblaze Dragonx1 Dark Armed Dragonx1 Hunter Dragonx1 Rancer Dragonutex1 Exploder Dragonx1 Totem Dragonx1 Spear Dragonx1 Mirage Dragonx1 Debris Dragon Spellsx1 Shrinkx1 Card Destructionx1 Mystical Space Typhoonx1 Monster Reincarnationx1 Soul Exchangex1 Future Fusionx1 Heavy Stormx1 Dimension Fusionx1 Dragon's Mirrorx1 Fires of Doomsdayx1 Pot of Greedx1 Raigekix1 Harpie's Feather Dusterx1 Graceful Charityx1 Change of Heartx1 Monster Reborn Trapsx1 Shadow Spellx1 Mirror Forcex1 Torrential Tributex1 Draining Shieldx2 Sakuretsu Armorx1 Magic Jammerx1 Seven Tools of the Banditx1 Scrap Iron Scarecrowx1 Defense Drawx1 Wabokux1 Ring of Destructionx1 Magic Cylinderx1 Ordeal of a Travelerx1 Call of the Haunted Extra Deckx1 Exploder Dragonwingx1 Five-Headed Dragonx1 Dark End Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 You have way too many cards. Cut it to 40. Then add more LV8 dragons, Trade-In, Darkness Metal, and Red-Eyes Wyvern. Just turn this into Hopeless. Trust me, that'll be the only way to make this decent. Or you could go Disaster Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 You have way too many cards. Cut it to 40. Then add more LV8 dragons, Trade-In, Darkness Metal, and Red-Eyes Wyvern. Just turn this into Hopeless. Trust me, that'll be the only way to make this decent. Or you could go Disaster Dragon. I've never actually understood why Red-Eyes Wyvern is so useful. And what's a Disaster Dragon deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 It's a deck that uses Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon to swarm the field with powerful dragons. Red-Eyes Wyvern makes it easy for you to summon REDMD from the graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 It's a deck that uses Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon to swarm the field with powerful dragons. Red-Eyes Wyvern makes it easy for you to summon REDMD from the graveyard. I thought that was what a Hopeless Dragon deck was. And I knew that much about REW, but its effect only works if you haven't summoned another monster that turn, and since it activates during the end phase it gives your opponent a full turn to kill REDMD. It just sounds risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 I thought that was what a Hopeless Dragon deck was. And I knew that much about REW, but its effect only works if you haven't summoned another monster that turn, and since it activates during the end phase it gives your opponent a full turn to kill REDMD. It just sounds risky. Hopeless focuses more on DARK-Attribute stuff, while Disaster has a variety. That's one of the main differences. With Wyvern, the main card is Future Fusion. Use FuFu with Five-Headed Dragon, dump 2 REDMD, 2 Wyvern, and 1 other dragon, remove the Wyverns and summon 2 Darkness Metals at the end phase. And Wyvern can also be a 1800 point Attacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Hopeless focuses more on DARK-Attribute stuff, while Disaster has a variety. That's one of the main differences. With Wyvern, the main card is Future Fusion. Use FuFu with Five-Headed Dragon, dump 2 REDMD, 2 Wyvern, and 1 other dragon, remove the Wyverns and summon 2 Darkness Metals at the end phase. And Wyvern can also be a 1800 point Attacker. Well I understand a little better now. Still, a card like Raigeki or Lightning Vortex could take out the REDMD's. Anyway, I still need help choosing which cards to get rid of, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Well I understand a little better now. Still, a card like Raigeki or Lightning Vortex could take out the REDMD's. Anyway, I still need help choosing which cards to get rid of, at least. Most people don't run many Vortex, and Raigeki is Banned in Advanced. A lot of decks main Starlight Road, so using Vortex, Raigeki, and so on practically gives your opponent a free Stardust Dragon. That's why many competative decks these days stick to cards like Smashing Ground and Fissure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted August 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Most people don't run many Vortex, and Raigeki is Banned in Advanced. A lot of decks main Starlight Road, so using Vortex, Raigeki, and so on practically gives your opponent a free Stardust Dragon. That's why many competative decks these days stick to cards like Smashing Ground and Fissure. Alright, so what cards should I get rid of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Alright, so what cards should I get rid of? First off, do you want a basic Hopeless Dragons deck? Or do you want to go Disaster Dragon? And do you want to make it legal for Advanced Format Tournaments, or stick with Traditional? Keep in mind there are very few Traditional Tournaments. I assume Traditional, since that's the secotion you posted in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted August 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 First off, do you want a basic Hopeless Dragons deck? Or do you want to go Disaster Dragon? And do you want to make it legal for Advanced Format Tournaments, or stick with Traditional? Keep in mind there are very few Traditional Tournaments. I assume Traditional, since that's the secotion you posted in. Well, I guess Disaster Dragon. And yes, Traditional Format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted August 16, 2010 Report Share Posted August 16, 2010 Well, I guess Disaster Dragon. And yes, Traditional Format. Alright, well instead of telling you which cards to keep/get rid of, I'll give you a deck list to use as a reference. Monsters: 21 [3] Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon[2] Koaki Meiru Drago[2] Masked Dragon[2] Red-Eyes Wyvern[2] Light and Darkness Dragon[2] Magna Drago[2] Exploder Dragon[2] Debris Dragon[1] White Night Dragon[1] Prime Material Dragon[1] Witch of the Black Forest[1] Magician of Faith Spells: 14 [1] Future Fusion[1] Harpie’s Feather Duster[1] Change of Heart[1] Monster Reborn[1] Premature Burial[1] Dragon's Mirror [1] Dimension Fusion[1] Painful Choice[1] Dark Hole[1] Delinquent Duo[1] Raigeki[1] Pot of Greed[1] Graceful Charity[1] Card of Safe Return Traps: 5 [1] Mirror Force[1] Torrential Tribute[1] Ring of Destruction[1] Solemn Judgment[1] Starlight Road Extra: 15 [1] Ally of Justice-Catastor[1] Ancient Fairy Dragon[2] Stardust Dragon[1] Goyo Guardian[1] Red Dragon Archfiend[1] Black Rose Dragon[1] Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier[2] Exploder Dragonwing[1] Trident Dragion[1] Colossal Fighter[1] Dark Strike Fighter[2] Five-Headed Dragon This seems to be pretty standard for Disaster Dragon. I'm not too sure, though. My specialty is Hopeless. I haven't ventured too much into Disaster Dragon to be experienced with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.x.l.t. Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think a Snatch Steal and a Brain Control instead of Dark Hole and Dimension Fusion in Jabber's version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think a Snatch Steal and a Brain Control instead of Dark Hole and Dimension Fusion in Jabber's version. ...no. I already have Change of Heart and that's better than both B-Con and Snatch. Dark Hole is generic monster removal, and Dimension Fusion is for after you use Dragon's Mirror. Although it can be used for other purposes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.x.l.t. Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 But isn't 3 better than 1? Raigeki is monster removal enough, and running Dark Hole in a swarm (basically) deck... Running only Change of Heart is like saying I already have MST so I won't run Dust Tornado as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted August 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 Well at any rate, I edited my deck to a good point using your suggestions. Thanks for the help! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUE EYES KING 8 Posted August 18, 2010 Report Share Posted August 18, 2010 jabber how did you get duel spirit into your profile picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAEGING D0GKING Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Too many cards and look in other peoples decks to get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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