Skarlet Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 [img]http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1133/43938.jpg[/img] Note: The perminant reduction in level is to prevent re-use of the monster's effect, limiting to one revival per copy.If the monster's returned to your hand or deck, it's level resets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 So a 1700 ATK tuner that can keep special summoning itself? That doesn't seem good. Even if it's only once (would the level still be 2 when it goes into the grave?) it's still a free 1700 beatstick. Make it so it loss ATK and DEF when it's Special Summoned. Also, if it can keep being summoned, you should fix that. ATM, it's over powered, but some simple fixes should fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1282201295' post='4541709'] So a 1700 ATK tuner that can keep special summoning itself? That doesn't seem good. Even if it's only once (would the level still be 2 when it goes into the grave?) it's still a free 1700 beatstick. Make it so it loss ATK and DEF when it's Special Summoned. Also, if it can keep being summoned, you should fix that. ATM, it's over powered, but some simple fixes should fix that. [/quote] ... Are you serious? I saw you'd commented, hoping it'd sum this up well, but apparently not =s This is a level 4 tuner that can summon a level 2 tuner from the Graveyard at any time while it's there. It's like a PSZ without a cost and a level 4 on normal summons - oh, but then it's also not RFG'd, so it can have other uses. This card is far, far, too powerful. How you fix that is your own choice, but it's got a lot of problems right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1282201566' post='4541717'] ... Are you serious? I saw you'd commented, hoping it'd sum this up well, but apparently not =s This is a level 4 tuner that can summon a level 2 tuner from the Graveyard at any time while it's there. It's like a PSZ without a cost and a level 4 on normal summons - oh, but then it's also not RFG'd, so it can have other uses. This card is far, far, too powerful. How you fix that is your own choice, but it's got a lot of problems right now. [/quote] You can still use PSZ when it's removed. And, if I'm reading him right, it made it so it will only ever get 1 use (saying this effect can only be used once per duel would be easier BTW). If PSZ gets back in the grave you can use it again. It also lacks all the support PSZ has as a Zombie. The fact that it's only useable with Fish also makes it more balanced. Simply adding a large attack drop would make it a lot better. To make it perfect adding a simple cost (discard a card) would make this go from over powered, to just good fish support. So changes I think you should do. Have it loss ATK and DEF (IMO 1200/1200) Give it a cost (IMO discard a card to summon) Make it so it can't be discarded from your hand (a personal note) [s]Add a "once per duel" clause.[/s] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1282202829' post='4541742'] You can still use PSZ when it's removed. And, if I'm reading him right, it made it so it will only ever get 1 use (saying this effect can only be used once per duel would be easier BTW). [b]Shi said that it can be re-used if returned to hand/deck[/b] Give it a cost (IMO discard a card to summon) [/quote] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 The card is only level 4 ONCE since you can't have a level 0 monster, you CAN'T summon this card more than once with it's own effect. Also, 1700 ATK isn't that bad, and honestly, who's going to attack with this rather than tuning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1282203046' post='4541745'] Shi said that it can be re-used if returned to hand/deck [/quote] I missed that. I'm smart. [quote name='Skarlet' timestamp='1282203123' post='4541749'] The card is only level 4 ONCE since you can't have a level 0 monster, you CAN'T summon this card more than once with it's own effect. Also, 1700 ATK isn't that bad, and honestly, who's going to attack with this rather than tuning. [/quote] A lot of people. If they don't have another monster they'll just get a free beatstick. Or the can attack then synchro since most of the time that would end with more damage. And 1700 is a lot since it's more then 1/5 your opponent's Life Points in 1 attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 This is true. What if it's attack was to be reduced by 1000 when it was re-summoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 [quote name='Skarlet' timestamp='1282203948' post='4541767'] This is true. What if it's attack was to be reduced by 1000 when it was re-summoned? [/quote] Still a bit much IMO. While it is more reasonable for the level, it's still a free 1k beatstick and can still do some damage. If you want to do that, and if you weren't planning on giving it a cost, make it loss 700/700 and have the summon come at the cost of a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarlet Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I said by, not to. so it would be a 700/1400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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