ramze06 Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 I am making a plant deck and I came across some odd cards. These cards usually revolve around a effect that summons a plant token to the opponents side of the field: Cactus Fighter Wall of Ivy Seed of Flame Bamboo Scrap etc... When you look at cards like Bamboo Scrap and Wall of ivy it seems like there's strategies behind it all, like Konami has combos that work we.I always loved cards quirky effects that most opponents cannot adopt too, and I can see summoning tokens to my opponents side of the field useful, as I can use them for plant like stuff like Black Garden and it prevents heavy swarming from zombies and such. But then there's the odd side being the fact these cards came out during the time of synchroing, meaning that normally the developers would put restrictions on the tokens for this so they cannot be used as synchro material, but no. Then it's also the fact that most of these tokens can be tributed for a tribute summon, making them more than risky. Overall I do not see how can these cards be used easily in the average plant deck. I seen the anime and it fits minorly well, with the exception of the opponents don't swarm nowhere as much and using strategies as attacking the tokens for a burn effect or whatnot seems not only risky but mild situational. Then I tryed it in real-life and it was a bit uneven as my tokens either was used for synchro fother or put in defense to protect my opponent, so using the burn effects or anti swarming of these cards failed. Tl;DR What is an effective way to use cards that summon plant tokens to my opponents side of the field with a plant deck? Not looking for a deck lists, just some good tips people might know that can be splashed into a Black Garden deck, or at least some way of explaining what potential purpose could summoning tokens to my opponents side of the field do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Cactus Fighter + All Out Attacks is a 2 card OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramze06 Posted August 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1283001272' post='4574373'] Cactus Fighter + All Out Attacks is a 2 card OTK. [/quote] Yeah, I don't mean the otk. what I'm trying to get at is what is the point of these cards, what is the point of putting tokes on the opponents side of the field? You see cards like Bamboo scrap that seem to have some sort of theme to it, as if Konami was attepmting to utilize your opponent having plant tokes as a strategie. Only cards that have a common combo to this is Fragrance Storm and Rose Tentacles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Welcome to Konami, maker of half-done themes. You've listed just about everything that really works with them. It's not exactly a workable Decktype if you want anything vaugely serious. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Black Garden really is the only decent one out of them. The lolwikia has it's own tip page on it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123hriwu3beofuf89383y Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Hmm, OTK Hand: Black Garden, some Random monster, Double Summon, Rose Tenticles and scape goat and ( yes, i know, its a 6 card OTK, meh ) UWS. Summon a monster then use Double summon to tribute 'a monster' to bring out Rose. Activate black Garden, then Scape. Opponents gets 4 Tokens. Activate UWS, Rose gains 5X800=4000, Attack a few times, then win! yes, i know, your opponent must not have any spells/traps to stop you. hope his confuses you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramze06 Posted August 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1283003621' post='4574489'] Welcome to Konami, maker of half-done themes. You've listed just about everything that really works with them. It's not exactly a workable Decktype if you want anything vaugely serious. . [/quote] Awww so you're saying this deck theme is unfinished? Dang.... Does is there a chance konami may add newer cards to benefit this theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Gengar Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 [quote name='spider5667' timestamp='1283015685' post='4575150'] Hmm, OTK Hand: Black Garden, some Random monster, Double Summon, Rose Tenticles and scape goat and ( yes, i know, its a 6 card OTK, meh ) UWS. Summon a monster then use Double summon to tribute 'a monster' to bring out Rose. Activate black Garden, then Scape. Opponents gets 4 Tokens. Activate UWS, Rose gains 5X800=4000, Attack a few times, then win! yes, i know, your opponent must not have any spells/traps to stop you. hope his confuses you. [/quote] Stop being bad and read the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Token Plants were infamous when they came out for giving lots of support for creating tokens, but not actually making there be a point to doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramze06 Posted August 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1283058870' post='4577320'] Token Plants were infamous when they came out for giving lots of support for creating tokens, but not actually making there be a point to doing so. [/quote] Yeah this is what I'm looking for. Is there any support for them, any support for summoning plants to your opponents side of the field then use your opponents tokens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 There's support to put them on the opponent's field, but there's no support besides Fragrance Storm and Rose Tentacles that makes that actually helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 [quote name='GenzoTheHarpist' timestamp='1283105372' post='4578719'] There's support to put them on the opponent's field, but there's no support besides Fragrance Storm and Rose Tentacles that makes that actually helpful. [/quote] Unless you count All-Out Attacks/Final Attack Orders as "support". Rose Tentacles is lame, since it's weak and can't be Special Summoned. So that leaves you with...Fragrance Storm, and...Fragrance Storm. Yeah. It's like making an ALO Deck. You COULD put in lots of support for Level 3 and lower WATER monsters...OR you could make Ceolecanth.dek or maybe even Daedalus.dek. And don't get me started on Zombies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramze06 Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1283112684' post='4579193'] Unless you count All-Out Attacks/Final Attack Orders as "support". Rose Tentacles is lame, since it's weak and can't be Special Summoned. So that leaves you with...Fragrance Storm, and...Fragrance Storm. Yeah. It's like making an ALO Deck. You COULD put in lots of support for Level 3 and lower WATER monsters...OR you could make Ceolecanth.dek or maybe even Daedalus.dek. And don't get me started on Zombies... [/quote] Thanks, well there goes my dream of making a plant deck. Hope fabled doesn't come out unfinished this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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