♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [center] [img]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5189/142021vi.jpg[/img] [i][color="#800080"]When this card is Normal Summoned, it is switched to Defense Position and place 3 Sleep Counters on it. Once per turn, you can discard 1 card from your hand. Then place 1 Sleep Counter on this card. You can move up to 2 Sleep Counters from this card to a card your opponent controls. (A monster with Sleep Counters on it is switched to Defense Position and cannot change their Battle Position). During each of your opponent's End Phase, your opponent selects 1 monster they control that has a Sleep Counter(s) on it and removes 1 Sleep Counter. [/color][/i][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 It's not effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Failed comment. Disregarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 There are definitely better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [quote name='♥Łövëły Ċ.Ċ♥' timestamp='1287517342' post='4718143'] Failed comment. Disregarded. [/quote] ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 ok, example: HAPPY HAMSTER IMAGE xD This is better for field control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Again. Failed Comment. Disregarded. I dislike 5 word comments that tell me absolutely nothing. Give reasoning, tell me flaws, give me suggestions. Otherwise, it is useless and a total waste. Also please delete the image =/ It was totally unnecessary. I've knowledge of most of the Yu-Gi-Oh TCG/OCG/Anime cards so just refer to them, don't post the pic. And if I don't know it, I can use Yu-gi-Oh Wikia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 but i liek pics Your card is an ok defender (yay) that has an effect that makes you go -1 (boo) to switch some of your opponent's monsters to defense position (meh) that relies on counters (OH CHRIST). E-Con with a body is ok, but tbh removal would be better considering that the card itself has no ATK stat and you have to lose a Normal Summon to play it. When compared to Nimble, something that gives you a +1 (yay) that removes (YAY) and mills (yay), it is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [quote name='Ser Warjacksworth' timestamp='1287518394' post='4718196'] but i liek pics Your card is an ok defender (yay) that has an effect that makes you go -1 (boo) to switch some of your opponent's monsters to defense position (meh) that relies on counters (OH CHRIST). E-Con with a body is ok, but tbh removal would be better considering that the card itself has no ATK stat and you have to lose a Normal Summon to play it. When compared to Nimble, something that gives you a +1 (yay) that removes (YAY) and mills (yay), it is terrible. [/quote] ...Seriously...Image needs to go, or I'll just ask a moderator to remove it (Not a threat, just an option). There's no reason for it to be there and it's in no way related to the topic. A simple reference would have sufficed. That -1 can also be a +1. It can be abused by DW and Fabled as it's not a cost. Agreed that in comparison to Nimble this card wouldn't even be considered, however, this was not made to match Nimble. This was made as a Stall. This can work in Spiders (in some perverse way...) But still, I admit it's not the best staller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 There are better discarding options, like the Fabled's own effects and Phoenix Wind and similar cards. Stall isn't good given how much removal there is in the game. With Spiders, cards like No Entry and Zero Gravity are still better. fine, kill Nimble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [quote name='Ser Warjacksworth' timestamp='1287519165' post='4718238'] There are better discarding options, like the Fabled's own effects and Phoenix Wind and similar cards. Stall isn't good given how much removal there is in the game. With Spiders, cards like No Entry and Zero Gravity are still better. fine, kill Nimble [/quote] Thank you. Zero Gravity ? Bad run imo. Also [quote=♥Łövëły Ċ.Ċ♥] But still, I admit it's not the best staller. [/quote] I have a deck that requires Stall to create a Lockdown. It's rather good. Stall isn't too bad but it's not too good either. Well anyways, thank you for upping you post quality, much more helpful to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetie Belle Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 [quote name='♥Łövëły Ċ.Ċ♥' timestamp='1287517021' post='4718118'] [center] [i][color="#800080"]When this card is Normal Summoned, it is switched to Defense Position and place 3 Sleep Counters on it. Once per turn, you can discard 1 card from your hand. Then place 1 Sleep Counter on this card. You can move up to 2 Sleep Counters from this card to a card your opponent controls. (A monster with Sleep Counters on it is switched to Defense Position and cannot change their Battle Position). During each of your opponent's End Phase, your opponent selects 1 monster they control that has a Sleep Counter(s) on it and removes 1 Sleep Counter. [/color][/i][/center] [/quote] Hmm... I like it. But there are a few parts of the OCG that's just bothering me slightly: [quote]...Normal Summoned, it is switched to Defense Position and...[/quote] The way you worded that just doesn't sound right. It sounds better as: ...Normal Summoned, [b]switch it[/b] to Defense Position and... [quote]Once per turn, you can discard 1 card from your hand. Then place 1 Sleep Counter on this card.[/quote] This part isn't necessarily wrong, but it's kind of... well, I'm stuck for a word there (it's not bad, though!), but it could be shortened as such: Once per turn, you can discard 1 card from your hand[b] to [/b]place 1 Sleep Counter on this card. [quote]You can move up to 2 Sleep Counters from this card to a card your opponent controls.[/quote] How often? [quote](A monster with Sleep Counters on it is switched to Defense Position and cannot change their Battle Position).[/quote] The OCG here isn't wrong at all, but it's where you placed it. Anything in parentheses like this should be at the end. Look at Unions and Aliens. [quote]During each of your opponent's End Phase, your opponent selects 1 monster they control that has a Sleep Counter(s) on it and removes 1 Sleep Counter.[/quote] Ehh... it's somewhat redundant in the way you stated it. Here, try this: During each of your opponent's End Phase[b]s[/b], your opponent [b]removes 1 Sleep Counter from a monster he/she controls[/b]. The pic is ehhhish. It's not bad, but it's somewhat confusing. 7.5/10 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Attacking isn't the only form of removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~{Rochster}~ Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 What is thw max. sleep counters? 6/10. Not bad. ~{Neg YCMmembers, suck on tounges, scard (card in my sister's fake language)}~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Byakk, please post a real comment. Something more than just 5 words... Rochster, there is no max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Smeagle Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 This card would be much better if it also negated the "sleeping" monsters' effects. As it is, people do run a lot of cards that are never supposed to attack you, so this really doesn't hurt them. Good concept, okay execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥ Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Well I thought about that because the big thing would be Brionac... But then I thought that might be OP. Thanks though! I'll wait for a few more comments before changing. Thats Kirby, I'll review the OCG stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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