Stardust Soldier Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 [color="#000080"][size="3"][b]Ok, alot (I know, your not really supposed so write "alot"...) of people did not like my first mirror destruction card. So hear it is again, New and (hopefully) improved! If people still dislike it (for what ever reason) please tell me the problem, and how i can fix it) Enjoy![/b][/size][/color] [img]http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1714/289589c.jpg[/img] Oh, and i drew the mirror myself, but added the twirls and background in Gimp 2.6 (surprisingly useful). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Hats Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 The picture looks good, I think such a specific card isn't really likely to get used. See "White Hole" and similar. It also never really destroys mirror force or dark mirror force but instead suppresses them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moppmoppmopp Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Better with a Cost and no remove from play effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Hats Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 [quote name='moppmoppmopp' timestamp='1287578879' post='4720231'] Better with a Cost and no remove from play effect. [/quote] Isn't having such a specific card in your deck a cost enough? You have to draw it before mirror force or dark mirror force (which your opponent is only going to have 1 copy of anyway). If you have 1 copy in your deck thats only a 50::50 (asuming same deck sizes), if you have more then 1 copy then you are likely to have dead draws (most people don't play both dark and regular mirror force) and it doesn't even stop mirror force all the time, once it's out it can be Mystical Space Typhooned as it is a continuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Trap Stun exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Soldier Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Ok thank you for your comments, can you please tell me how i can make this card better. No matter what, i am keeping it specific to the mirror cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 [quote name='Stardust Soldier' timestamp='1287639100' post='4722515'] Ok thank you for your comments, can you please tell me how i can make this card better. No matter what, i am keeping it specific to the mirror cards. [/quote] Then we can't help you, because you're insisting on to keep it inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Soldier Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 [quote name='Zandaa Roaisu' timestamp='1287648863' post='4722603'] Then we can't help you, because you're insisting on to keep it inconsistent. [/quote] ...What does that even mean? I only want it to affect the mirror cards, other than that I'm asking people how they would prefer it to be executed, activated or how exactly it could stop the mirror cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Make it activate from your Deck, make it let you send it back from your hand to draw 1 card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 [quote name='Stardust Soldier' timestamp='1287664710' post='4722739'] ...What does that even mean? I only want it to affect the mirror cards, other than that I'm asking people how they would prefer it to be executed, activated or how exactly it could stop the mirror cards. [/quote] Whenever a card is made to counter 1 or 2, then it cannot be good. They end up being way too situational, and nobody will run them, no matter how good they may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Soldier Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 [quote name='Ser Warjacksworth' timestamp='1287664981' post='4722741'] Make it activate from your Deck, make it let you send it back from your hand to draw 1 card. [/quote] THANK YOU!, first bit of constructive critisism i have gotten! And for everyone else, there are countless number of situational cards that people use from time to time until they get better rarer cards, let this be one of those. Not all cards have to be super uber awesome pwnage (just throwin random words here...) sweet and delightful that will smash ur opponent. so plz people if you dont like it, add what you would like it to do (its still staying situational to mirror cards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Hats Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 [quote]THANK YOU!, first bit of constructive critisism i have gotten![/quote] People telling you that it isn't a useful card is constructive criticism... [quote]Then we can't help you, because you're insisting on to keep it inconsistent.[/quote] How is it that in the forum where 'official card [b]grammar[/b]' is so important there are so many incoherent posts! Are people posting drunk? There isn't anything wrong with the card being so situational, I was just saying no one would run it. I prefer to see cards that are useful in at least some context. But more so I like to see cards that are original. If you are able to activate it from your deck it needs a massive cost. i.e. Tribute 1-2 monsters and pay half your life points. Stopping mirror force is a game winning action, just as getting hit by a mirror force can be a game losing event, as such the effect of this card needs to reflect this. If you can come up with a good way of discouraging mirror force without making it outright stupid to take then you will have made a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Trap Stun No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Hats Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 [quote]Trap Stun No it isn't. [/quote] What are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 [quote name='M.Hats' timestamp='1287741186' post='4725336']Stopping mirror force is a game winning action, [/quote] It really isn't that important anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Hats Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 There is a big difference between drawing a trap stun, and being able to activate a card from your deck (any card). Most games go alot quicker these days, that means less draws and less chance of getting a trap stun. If you could activate a card from your deck when you suspect that a face down-trap your opponent has might be mirror force (which almost every deck should/is running) and your going for a heavy hit (maybe even the game), then almost everyone would take 1. What you proposed; [quote]Make it activate from your Deck, make it let you send it back from your hand to draw 1 card. [/quote] This is not good I'm afraid as everyone would run it in 3's. Why? Not because it activates from your deck (giving you a +1 any turn and making mirror force all but useless), but because it effectively gives you a deck with 37 instead of 40 as you can return it to your deck to go for another draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 idk, people tech a lot of stuff nowadays. It's like Upstart Goblin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Hats Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 True, and I'm not saying that this kind of card shouldn't exist. Or even that it shouldn't be playable from the deck but it should be given some kind of serious cost. Maybe something like; Mirror Destruction - Spell Card You can use 1 of the following 2 effects: • Pay half your life points and tribute 1 of your face-up Monster Card's to activate this card from your deck. Until your second Standby Phase after this card's activation neither player can activate "Mirror Force" or "Dark Mirror Force". • Both players must remove from play all "Mirror Force" and "Dark Mirror Force" cards from their Hand, Deck, Graveyard and Field. This way it discourages the use of mirror force for the player using it, It can be activated strategically from your deck when you are going for an attack and know/suspect a mirror force is set (at a high cost), and it has a fairly devestating effect if you draw it keeping mirror force out of the game for most decks (though it is still a -1 if they have it in their deck but 0 if they have it in hand or on the field). I think you could go with the "send it back to your deck from your hand to draw 1 card" but then you would need to add some other effect like, "Pay X Life Points", etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Soldier Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Soooo i appreciate all of the comments but please, how can i make it realistically better? Sorry about the massive wait, i went on holidays lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 It's situational, and therefore terrible. Cards that only stop specific cards are always terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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